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    He did melt fairy walls though, so that counts for something

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    Quote Originally Posted by fumei View Post
    Gudao, or rather Gudao's command spells, implies to me that the only "ammo" needed to fire the black barrel is a huge amount of magical energy (since that's what our CS are). Earlier in the chapter they explain that fairies have a lot of magical energy and all, so it wouldn't be weird that they can just go ahead and fire it on their own without any external help. On top of that Bogard does grow weaker as he fires it more and more. What I'm more interested about is that, unless I'm misremembering, in Olympus the black barrel worked as a conceptual weapon against the machine gods specifically because it was made/calibrated using machine god parts from Atlantis, so that also implies to me that it shouldn't work on anything else without recalibrating first, so perhaps what Bogard used was literally just a magical energy supercannon, rather than any conceptual traits actually being attached.
    Yeah I assumed that it was just magical energy from the the Fae itself that was used to fire it. It does make me think though that later in part two we will fire black barrel again, albeit some Fae will.

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    Bogard just turned into Aoko for a little bit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fumei View Post
    Gudao, or rather Gudao's command spells, implies to me that the only "ammo" needed to fire the black barrel is a huge amount of magical energy (since that's what our CS are). Earlier in the chapter they explain that fairies have a lot of magical energy and all, so it wouldn't be weird that they can just go ahead and fire it on their own without any external help. On top of that Bogard does grow weaker as he fires it more and more. What I'm more interested about is that, unless I'm misremembering, in Olympus the black barrel worked as a conceptual weapon against the machine gods specifically because it was made/calibrated using machine god parts from Atlantis, so that also implies to me that it shouldn't work on anything else without recalibrating first, so perhaps what Bogard used was literally just a magical energy supercannon, rather than any conceptual traits actually being attached.
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    I would like to add LB5 also made use of MC's destiny power or whatever you call it to fuel the Black Barrel. Regarding calibration, I wonder if that is why Sion wants the spear.
    Took me a while to find this, was surprised that I couldn't find more info on SB's General thread.
    Quote Originally Posted by r/FGOguide Olympus Chapter 7
    Holmes explains that nothing that exists within this universe is without end. If the universe is finite, then so is everything within it, and the Black Barrel observes and materializes this limit.
    Da Vinci then explains that originally a thing like this shouldn't be possible to operate, but they managed to make it work now by miniaturizing it to make it more stable, and limit the observation mechanism to the machine gods.
    The first requirement to build it was the divine core of Poseidon.
    The second requirement--- a piece of Artemis, which drifted from Atlantis.

    However, to operate the Black Barrel it'll require immense energy, and so you'll need to use your Command Spell. But it's not like anything else you've done before. All your magical energy, all your physical strength, and even your karmic energy all need to work together to use this spell.

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    Yeah, so like I said, what Bogard did probably didn't make use of the conceptual lifespan quality of it and just made it into a big magical energy boom cannon.
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    Also something something, truly using Barrel Replica needs Mash and Guda to work together, she's the aim mechanism, you're the trigger, nakama desu.

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    Quick question, but I'm completely lost on who Toneliko is and why he is the base(?) of the Ash Tree holding this LB in place?

    Also, is there a place where I can find all the translated scripts for Part 1 at once? I don't feel like digging through this thread to find the prologue script.
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    What if Beryl's Servant is Oberon?

    That expression Oberon made in the OP from last year was not the expression of a good guy and he seems insistent on telling Fujimaru to forget about Mash.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Der Ritter View Post
    Also something something, truly using Barrel Replica needs Mash and Guda to work together, she's the aim mechanism, you're the trigger, nakama desu.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SirGauoftheSquareTable View Post
    Quick question, but I'm completely lost on who Toneliko is and why he is the base(?) of the Ash Tree holding this LB in place?
    Toneliko (which in JP is the name of the ash tree, and the world tree) was the first savior to appear in Britain. He stopped the war 6000 years ago (4000 fairy calendar) that Medb started between the north and the south. He then created the six-clan system, and later on when he died he was buried in Orkney, which on the map is where the tree is located. Hence the theory that he is somehow related to the tree itself in some way. Tonelico reincarnates to save britain from disaster every 1000 years or so, and among these incarnations are Grimm the wise, and now the child of prophecy.

    - - - Updated - - -

    Also right now for a translation from the start there's only Rayshift's TL, which quality I cannot attest to because I haven't checked it, you can probably find that on youtube. Otherwise translations from the start will be going up on fgoguide shortly so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reign View Post
    What if Beryl's Servant is Oberon?

    That expression Oberon made in the OP from last year was not the expression of a good guy and he seems insistent on telling Fujimaru to forget about Mash.
    Mash is getting in the way of the fulfillment of the prophecy, it's not that Oberon wanted her away from us- it's more he's diehard set on the prophecy happening. Norwich was supposed to be mostly destroyed, instead it was mostly saved.

    Quote Originally Posted by SirGauoftheSquareTable View Post
    Quick question, but I'm completely lost on who Toneliko is and why he is the base(?) of the Ash Tree holding this LB in place?

    Also, is there a place where I can find all the translated scripts for Part 1 at once? I don't feel like digging through this thread to find the prologue script.
    Tonelico is another way to refer to an Ash Tree or Yggdrasil. In the confines of the LB, Tonelico was a hero who saved the world. He then died and was burried at Orkney. The giant uprooted tree is also refered to as an "Ash Tree" and a "World Tree". It's not 100% confirmed but I also think it's where Orkney should be? It's also not confirmed Tonelico=The Big Tree, but it's possible. Anyways they're not holding the LB in place, it seems we had a LB3 scenario and the Fantasy Tree was placed in the World Tree.

    Which "Part 1" are you referring to, FGO part 1 Prologue? LB6 Prologue?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MaxAkito View Post
    Mash is getting in the way of the fulfillment of the prophecy, it's not that Oberon wanted her away from us- it's more he's diehard set on the prophecy happening. Norwich was supposed to be mostly destroyed, instead it was mostly saved.
    But Oberon was up to saving Norwich in the quests to own Spriggan? At least from the dialogues translated on reddit linked here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MaxAkito View Post
    Mash is getting in the way of the fulfillment of the prophecy, it's not that Oberon wanted her away from us- it's more he's diehard set on the prophecy happening. Norwich was supposed to be mostly destroyed, instead it was mostly saved.



    Tonelico is another way to refer to an Ash Tree or Yggdrasil. In the confines of the LB, Tonelico was a hero who saved the world. He then died and was burried at Orkney. The giant uprooted tree is also refered to as an "Ash Tree" and a "World Tree". It's not 100% confirmed but I also think it's where Orkney should be? It's also not confirmed Tonelico=The Big Tree, but it's possible. Anyways they're not holding the LB in place, it seems we had a LB3 scenario and the Fantasy Tree was placed in the World Tree.

    Which "Part 1" are you referring to, FGO part 1 Prologue? LB6 Prologue?
    Was referring to LB6.
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    Really, all 3 of the romances in F/SN are 'for want of a nail' kind of situations.
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    You mean because Shirou winds up falling for the first of the three that he Nailed?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SirGauoftheSquareTable View Post
    Was referring to LB6.
    TranslateFGO patch via app or watching on Youtube on Neo's channel are the only ways right now I think.

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    But Oberon was up to saving Norwich in the quests to own Spriggan? At least from the dialogues translated on reddit linked here.
    No matter what, to him and the prophecy- Norwich was supposed to be destroyed. He knew while coming here, Artoria wouldn't be able to do anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fumei View Post
    Toneliko (which in JP is the name of the ash tree, and the world tree) was the first savior to appear in Britain. He stopped the war 6000 years ago (4000 fairy calendar) that Medb started between the north and the south. He then created the six-clan system, and later on when he died he was buried in Orkney, which on the map is where the tree is located. Hence the theory that he is somehow related to the tree itself in some way. Tonelico reincarnates to save britain from disaster every 1000 years or so, and among these incarnations are Grimm the wise, and now the child of prophecy.

    - - - Updated - - -

    Also right now for a translation from the start there's only Rayshift's TL, which quality I cannot attest to because I haven't checked it, you can probably find that on youtube. Otherwise translations from the start will be going up on fgoguide shortly so.
    Thanks.
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    Really, all 3 of the romances in F/SN are 'for want of a nail' kind of situations.
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    You mean because Shirou winds up falling for the first of the three that he Nailed?
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    Do you guys think this is the Fairy Language on Excalibur/Avalon? Curious since I'm not really sure.


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    Norwich should be the event that give C. Artoria the resolve to take on her responsibilities,but Masu and MC destroyed that opportunity.

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    Just a small bit of trivia: if you pay close attention (and use an earphone), it is possible to hear the sound of ocean waves during the loading screen between scenes of the story of LB6.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MaxAkito View Post
    Do you guys think this is the Fairy Language on Excalibur/Avalon? Curious since I'm not really sure.
    The letters on Avalon and Excalibur are too stylistic to compare with.
    Avalon/Excalibur

    Here are some fairy letters in other Divine Construct for reference. Though there are resemblances imo, I can't comment much since I'm unfamiliar with it.
    Caliburn

    Arondight

    No letters for Galatine for some reason, maybe because it was drawn by huke instead of Koyama, who drew the rest.

    Seeing there are these kind fairies as well, I wonder how Morgan would deal with them, considering her dislike in My Room.



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