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    If Ophelia's suspicions are correct, every Lostbelt is an artificial one.

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    Yeah, according to her lostbelts are literally fanfic. I'm sure LB6 is still sustained without its tree because rhongo is there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Comun View Post
    If Ophelia's suspicions are correct, every Lostbelt is an artificial one.
    Well, I mean by the premise there's no such thing as a natural lostbelt is there? They're all pruned world lines aren't they? It's just a matter of what's holding them in place. I mean we know about pillars like Rhon and Ruyi, the fantasy trees are just a different kinda pin holding the weird ass texture in place.
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    Ophelia's theory is rather about the time between when a Lostbelt timeline got pruned and the modern present day when the events take place, that amount of time in between being a fabrication. The trees may not only be pinning the Lostbelt in place, but fabricating it and it's history since they got pruned

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lobo View Post
    Ophelia's theory is rather about the time between when a Lostbelt timeline got pruned and the modern present day when the events take place, that amount of time in between being a fabrication. The trees may not only be pinning the Lostbelt in place, but fabricating it and it's history since they got pruned
    Ah, yes, right enough, that makes sense. Basically in attempting to turn a pruned branch into the foundation of a new timeline, a lot of missing material needs to be added to it, sometimes thousands of intervening years that didn't happen in reality. I wonder what the solution there'll be?
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    This is funny, just while ago there was this talk about Chaldea crew, and the very first chapter of LB6 is reminding us about them.

    but each of them have a role

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    Nikiri has what I dub Blessings of the Boobs, see. As long as what his rolling for has two conspicuous mountains, they'll come to him one way or another.
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    Well, fine. Nikiri has this thing called 「我が往くは爆乳の彼方・・・!」
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    GundamFSN. Thank you.

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    big daddy and big mommy fae stuff
    Oberon: Exactly, now let’s discuss the fae. This not only applies to Fairyland Britain but also Pan-Human history, so there's no drawback to listening. In Pan-Human history there are various types of fae. Those who have fallen from the rank of a god. An accumulation of human and animal grudges plus dregs of their souls. Thoughts with no other place to go, reborn as an empty human rumor. These are fae that are born from human society and strictly speaking, not genuine. Genuine fae come from within the planet, unrelated to human society. They develop from the inlet sea of the planet. These fae which come from within the inlet sea of the planet are known in the magecraft world as "Great Fathers" or "Great Mothers." You can think of them as bunrei of the planet's soul or something like that. They're about the same scope as an anthropized nature divinity, but unlike those gods, they are not clothed in human rules. Great Fathers and Mothers are pure transcendent existences. Fae of these ranks who appear on the surface to solve a problem or on a mission from the planet are known in this Lostbelt as
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    . The fae who lent King Arthur the holy sword in Pan-Human history is one of these "Great Mothers" and Pan-Human Morgan has probably inherited her authority. Well, Morgan's father is Britain’s old king Uther so she's a hybrid of fae, humans, and kings. On the other hand, King Arthur is a hybrid of dragons, humans, and kings. The two seem similar but are fundamentally different.

    Artoria: Hm? What's that difference?

    Oberon: The final safeguard siding with humans or mystery. King Arthur chose the Britain where people live whereas Morgan chose the Britain where mystery lives. Well, your Pan-Human history shows which was correct in hindsight. Had the island remained a place where mystery ruled, Britian who would have left human history
    Sorry, let me get back to the conversation at hand. Sub-bells are Great Mother class fae who have "their own will," their own truths. The essence of these fae carry properties that reshape the World. This is known as a fairy's territory, the great mystery powerful fae possess. Furthermore, just by being present, Sub-Bells increase the number of terminals, also known as offspring. Children of the forest or children of the stone are known to be these offspring. These are the majority of fae in fairyland. Compared to Sub-Bell their power only consists of the tip of a nail, but offspring are offspring. Some strongly inherit the blood of the Sub-Bells. Gloucester's
    Muryan
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    is one of the few. Therefore Gloucester is clothed in a bothersome fairy territory. Muryan's mentality and viciousness give form to a "denial of strength" rule.

    Da Vinci: Denial of strength, perhaps a type of reversal?

    Oberon: Once upon a time, but it's a little different now. Currently, you can't bring "trained strength" into Gloucester. Anyone, even Morgan returns to their natural strength when she enters Gloucester.

    1. In other words, a city where everyone becomes lv 1?
    2. At first glance, it's egalitarian but...

    Oberon: Yes, those eager to make rules, make loopholes in those rules. Perhaps, Muryan alone is not bound by this rule. That's why in Gloucester, no one can go against Muryan. Remember that well.

    Da Vinci: Hm, the name Sub-Bell is unique to this Lostbelt, right? It seems like a term close to Elemental or True Ancestor. So then, are there any other fae who have inherited the power of Sub-Bells? For example, a clan chief. The fairy territory in the aurora?

    Artoria: No. Fae with that power fall outside the clan system. Being pursued by clan members, self-destructing because they're unable to withstand their own rules.....

    Oberon: Yes. Of the six chieftains only Muryan and Knocknarea can force their fairy territory onto others. Most of the other "territory owners" have self-destructed and became wraiths wandering Britain. They’re called
    Night Call
    Fae Death Lords
    . Depending on one's opinion, they're scarier than a fae knight.
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    so is it canonically accurate to call Morgan 'mummy'
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    He's just putting the bone of his sword into other people until it explodes and lets out parts of him inside them.
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    Genderswaps are terrible, but I think I and other people would hate them less if Fate didn't keep ignoring actual heroines throughout history and folklore. Like, why bother turning Francis Drake into a woman when Ching Shih and Grace O'Malley exist?
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    Fate Zero is just Fate Stay Night for people who think Shirou is too girly

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    Spoiler:
    apparently morgan's bond ce implies she is artoria disguised

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    that's a new level of siscon

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    Really hoping that isn't true.

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    I took it the other way, that
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    perhaps both are true: perhaps Morgan and Artoria swapped places, and that's why Castoria has to use magic to fight


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    So I heard that Kazuradrop is Beryl's Servant, can anyone confirm

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    He's just putting the bone of his sword into other people until it explodes and lets out parts of him inside them.
    Quote Originally Posted by AvengerEmiya View Post
    Genderswaps are terrible, but I think I and other people would hate them less if Fate didn't keep ignoring actual heroines throughout history and folklore. Like, why bother turning Francis Drake into a woman when Ching Shih and Grace O'Malley exist?
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    Fate Zero is just Fate Stay Night for people who think Shirou is too girly

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    big daddy and big mommy fae stuff
    Oberon: Exactly, now let’s discuss the fae. This not only applies to Fairyland Britain but also Pan-Human history, so there's no drawback to listening. In Pan-Human history there are various types of fae. Those who have fallen from the rank of a god. An accumulation of human and animal grudges plus dregs of their souls. Thoughts with no other place to go, reborn as an empty human rumor. These are fae that are born from human society and strictly speaking, not genuine. Genuine fae come from within the planet, unrelated to human society. They develop from the inlet sea of the planet. These fae which come from within the inlet sea of the planet are known in the magecraft world as "Great Fathers" or "Great Mothers." You can think of them as bunrei of the planet's soul or something like that. They're about the same scope as an anthropized nature divinity, but unlike those gods, they are not clothed in human rules. Great Fathers and Mothers are pure transcendent existences. Fae of these ranks who appear on the surface to solve a problem or on a mission from the planet are known in this Lostbelt as
    arei
    Sub-Bells
    . The fae who lent King Arthur the holy sword in Pan-Human history is one of these "Great Mothers" and Pan-Human Morgan has probably inherited her authority. Well, Morgan's father is Britain’s old king Uther so she's a hybrid of fae, humans, and kings. On the other hand, King Arthur is a hybrid of dragons, humans, and kings. The two seem similar but are fundamentally different.

    Artoria: Hm? What's that difference?

    Oberon: The final safeguard siding with humans or mystery. King Arthur chose the Britain where people live whereas Morgan chose the Britain where mystery lives. Well, your Pan-Human history shows which was correct in hindsight. Had the island remained a place where mystery ruled, Britian who would have left human history
    Sorry, let me get back to the conversation at hand. Sub-bells are Great Mother class fae who have "their own will," their own truths. The essence of these fae carry properties that reshape the World. This is known as a fairy's territory, the great mystery powerful fae possess. Furthermore, just by being present, Sub-Bells increase the number of terminals, also known as offspring. Children of the forest or children of the stone are known to be these offspring. These are the majority of fae in fairyland. Compared to Sub-Bell their power only consists of the tip of a nail, but offspring are offspring. Some strongly inherit the blood of the Sub-Bells. Gloucester's
    Muryan
    Wing Span
    is one of the few. Therefore Gloucester is clothed in a bothersome fairy territory. Muryan's mentality and viciousness give form to a "denial of strength" rule.

    Da Vinci: Denial of strength, perhaps a type of reversal?

    Oberon: Once upon a time, but it's a little different now. Currently, you can't bring "trained strength" into Gloucester. Anyone, even Morgan returns to their natural strength when she enters Gloucester.

    1. In other words, a city where everyone becomes lv 1?
    2. At first glance, it's egalitarian but...

    Oberon: Yes, those eager to make rules, make loopholes in those rules. Perhaps, Muryan alone is not bound by this rule. That's why in Gloucester, no one can go against Muryan. Remember that well.

    Da Vinci: Hm, the name Sub-Bell is unique to this Lostbelt, right? It seems like a term close to Elemental or True Ancestor. So then, are there any other fae who have inherited the power of Sub-Bells? For example, a clan chief. The fairy territory in the aurora?

    Artoria: No. Fae with that power fall outside the clan system. Being pursued by clan members, self-destructing because they're unable to withstand their own rules.....

    Oberon: Yes. Of the six chieftains only Muryan and Knocknarea can force their fairy territory onto others. Most of the other "territory owners" have self-destructed and became wraiths wandering Britain. They’re called
    Night Call
    Fae Death Lords
    . Depending on one's opinion, they're scarier than a fae knight.
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    there is indeed a new sprite for a fairy with drop's face but we don't know if it's really her

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    So Faries are separated between small faries born from human thoughts and assorted stuff, and Sub-bells which are basically avatars of the Planet and are like Gods, if Gods didn't care about human rules?
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    Apparently, Fairy Tristan is the girl Beryl was scared of
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    He's just putting the bone of his sword into other people until it explodes and lets out parts of him inside them.
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    Genderswaps are terrible, but I think I and other people would hate them less if Fate didn't keep ignoring actual heroines throughout history and folklore. Like, why bother turning Francis Drake into a woman when Ching Shih and Grace O'Malley exist?
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    Fate Zero is just Fate Stay Night for people who think Shirou is too girly

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    cacu has new lines that seem to confirm he is odin

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