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    Quote Originally Posted by Sandstorm77 View Post
    He's just putting the bone of his sword into other people until it explodes and lets out parts of him inside them.
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    Genderswaps are terrible, but I think I and other people would hate them less if Fate didn't keep ignoring actual heroines throughout history and folklore. Like, why bother turning Francis Drake into a woman when Ching Shih and Grace O'Malley exist?
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    This Morgan sounds like Caster Artoria Alter

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkeye View Post
    That'd have to be some Sousuke Aizen levels of bullshit planning. Like he raised his daughter from birth with crippling anixiety and low self-esteem in order for her to one day fail to replace him after his death, to then be thrown into a miniature representation of an incinerated earth just to be used as the vessel for an Alien Deity in order to give it an Achilles' Heel to exploit? I mean, even assuming the specifics didn't have to pan out this way, that still means he groomed his daughter to be a nervous wreck with the intention of having Beast VII inhabit her body, which how do you even plan for that?
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    Hmm. The CE refers to a She wishing for a specific story of Britain. Perhaps Caster Artoria is where she took Morgan's Staff?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rxrx View Post
    This Morgan sounds like Caster Artoria Alter
    Maybe it's the opposite? Caster Artoria was Morgan Alter all along?
    Because you are too young. Or too stupid. Or both.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herod View Post
    Maybe it's the opposite? Caster Artoria was Morgan Alter all along?
    Both theories might work.

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    >World map saying divergence point is 2017

    omg its brexit
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    He's just putting the bone of his sword into other people until it explodes and lets out parts of him inside them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by asterism42 View Post
    >World map saying divergence point is 2017

    omg its brexit
    Britain exit from the world lol

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    big daddy and big mommy fae stuff
    Oberon: Exactly, now let’s discuss the fae. This not only applies to Fairyland Britain but also Pan-Human history, so there's no drawback to listening. In Pan-Human history there are various types of fae. Those who have fallen from the rank of a god. An accumulation of human and animal grudges plus dregs of their souls. Thoughts with no other place to go, reborn as an empty human rumor. These are fae that are born from human society and strictly speaking, not genuine. Genuine fae come from within the planet, unrelated to human society. They develop from the inlet sea of the planet. These fae which come from within the inlet sea of the planet are known in the magecraft world as "Great Fathers" or "Great Mothers." You can think of them as bunrei of the planet's soul or something like that. They're about the same scope as an anthropized nature divinity, but unlike those gods, they are not clothed in human rules. Great Fathers and Mothers are pure transcendent existences. Fae of these ranks who appear on the surface to solve a problem or on a mission from the planet are known in this Lostbelt as
    arei
    Sub-Bells
    . The fae who lent King Arthur the holy sword in Pan-Human history is one of these "Great Mothers" and Pan-Human Morgan has probably inherited her authority. Well, Morgan's father is Britain’s old king Uther so she's a hybrid of fae, humans, and kings. On the other hand, King Arthur is a hybrid of dragons, humans, and kings. The two seem similar but are fundamentally different.


    Artoria: Hm? What's that difference?


    Oberon: The final safeguard siding with humans or mystery. King Arthur chose the Britain where people live whereas Morgan chose the Britain where mystery lives. Well, your Pan-Human history shows which was correct in hindsight. Had the island remained a place where mystery ruled, Britian who would have left human history
    Sorry, let me get back to the conversation at hand. Sub-bells are Great Mother class fae who have "their own will," their own truths. The essence of these fae carry properties that reshape the World. This is known as a fairy's territory, the great mystery powerful fae possess. Furthermore, just by being present, Sub-Bells increase the number of terminals, also known as offspring. Children of the forest or children of the stone are known to be these offspring. These are the majority of fae in fairyland. Compared to Sub-Bell their power only consists of the tip of a nail, but offspring are offspring. Some strongly inherit the blood of the Sub-Bells. Gloucester's
    Muryan
    Wing Span
    is one of the few. Therefore Gloucester is clothed in a bothersome fairy territory. Muryan's mentality and viciousness give form to a "denial of strength" rule.


    Da Vinci: Denial of strength, perhaps a type of reversal?


    Oberon: Once upon a time, but it's a little different now. Currently, you can't bring "trained strength" into Gloucester. Anyone, even Morgan returns to their natural strength when she enters Gloucester.


    1. In other words, a city where everyone becomes lv 1?
    2. At first glance, it's egalitarian but...


    Oberon: Yes, those eager to make rules, make loopholes in those rules. Perhaps, Muryan alone is not bound by this rule. That's why in Gloucester, no one can go against Muryan. Remember that well.


    Da Vinci: Hm, the name Sub-Bell is unique to this Lostbelt, right? It seems like a term close to Elemental or True Ancestor. So then, are there any other fae who have inherited the power of Sub-Bells? For example, a clan chief. The fairy territory in the aurora?


    Artoria: No. Fae with that power fall outside the clan system. Being pursued by clan members, self-destructing because they're unable to withstand their own rules.....


    Oberon: Yes. Of the six chieftains only Muryan and Knocknarea can force their fairy territory onto others. Most of the other "territory owners" have self-destructed and became wraiths wandering Britain. They’re called
    Night Call
    Fae Death Lords
    . Depending on one's opinion, they're scarier than a fae knight.
    Okay, now that's cool.

    [QUOTE=asterism42;3122713]>World map saying divergence point is 2017

    omg its brexit[/QUOTE
    lol

    Morgan:
    STR: C
    END: E
    AGI: B
    MAG: A+
    LUC: B
    NP: EX

    Fairy Knight Gawain:
    STR: B+
    END: A
    AGI: A
    MAG: C
    LUC: C
    NP: B+

    Fairy Knight Tristan:
    STR: A
    END: C
    AGI: A
    MAG: B
    LUC: D
    NP: E


    The second one doesn't even look anything like Tristan, what the heck. And why the strength if you're a Archer...
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    HF felt like Nasu holding up a megaphone and screaming, "LOOK AT HOW SAD THIS IS! ISN'T IT SAD? YOU SHOULD FEEL SAD!"


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    > Einzbern

    > Making smart decisions


    Pick one


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    Palingenesis just sounds like we're creating Sarah Palin.


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    >tfw you betray your ideals to get some


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    In short, Japan's syncretism BS striked again.




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    Well, technically you need strength to use a bow

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    Many archers have high STR.

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    Because “Gawain” is Barghest, and “Tristan” is Baobhan sidhe

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lobo View Post
    I remember Fallacies did their summaries of it, the links were shared here at the time but dunno how many pages back there are
    Just checked, go to fgo reddit and search "About LB of 5.5" and you'll find them reposted there
    I'll go look at it, I guess. It's strange that it's just them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zork Knight View Post
    Many archers have high STR.
    I thought that was one of the lower ones for them, I don't feel like double-checking the average amounts right now.

    Edit:The base for the class is C.
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    Bob the Builder's evil twin.
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    HF felt like Nasu holding up a megaphone and screaming, "LOOK AT HOW SAD THIS IS! ISN'T IT SAD? YOU SHOULD FEEL SAD!"


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    > Einzbern

    > Making smart decisions


    Pick one


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    Palingenesis just sounds like we're creating Sarah Palin.


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    >tfw you betray your ideals to get some


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    In short, Japan's syncretism BS striked again.




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    Quote Originally Posted by You View Post
    big daddy and big mommy fae stuff
    Oberon: Exactly, now let’s discuss the fae. This not only applies to Fairyland Britain but also Pan-Human history, so there's no drawback to listening. In Pan-Human history there are various types of fae. Those who have fallen from the rank of a god. An accumulation of human and animal grudges plus dregs of their souls. Thoughts with no other place to go, reborn as an empty human rumor. These are fae that are born from human society and strictly speaking, not genuine. Genuine fae come from within the planet, unrelated to human society. They develop from the inlet sea of the planet. These fae which come from within the inlet sea of the planet are known in the magecraft world as "Great Fathers" or "Great Mothers." You can think of them as bunrei of the planet's soul or something like that. They're about the same scope as an anthropized nature divinity, but unlike those gods, they are not clothed in human rules. Great Fathers and Mothers are pure transcendent existences. Fae of these ranks who appear on the surface to solve a problem or on a mission from the planet are known in this Lostbelt as
    arei
    Sub-Bells
    . The fae who lent King Arthur the holy sword in Pan-Human history is one of these "Great Mothers" and Pan-Human Morgan has probably inherited her authority. Well, Morgan's father is Britain’s old king Uther so she's a hybrid of fae, humans, and kings. On the other hand, King Arthur is a hybrid of dragons, humans, and kings. The two seem similar but are fundamentally different.

    Artoria: Hm? What's that difference?

    Oberon: The final safeguard siding with humans or mystery. King Arthur chose the Britain where people live whereas Morgan chose the Britain where mystery lives. Well, your Pan-Human history shows which was correct in hindsight. Had the island remained a place where mystery ruled, Britian who would have left human history
    Sorry, let me get back to the conversation at hand. Sub-bells are Great Mother class fae who have "their own will," their own truths. The essence of these fae carry properties that reshape the World. This is known as a fairy's territory, the great mystery powerful fae possess. Furthermore, just by being present, Sub-Bells increase the number of terminals, also known as offspring. Children of the forest or children of the stone are known to be these offspring. These are the majority of fae in fairyland. Compared to Sub-Bell their power only consists of the tip of a nail, but offspring are offspring. Some strongly inherit the blood of the Sub-Bells. Gloucester's
    Muryan
    Wing Span
    is one of the few. Therefore Gloucester is clothed in a bothersome fairy territory. Muryan's mentality and viciousness give form to a "denial of strength" rule.

    Da Vinci: Denial of strength, perhaps a type of reversal?

    Oberon: Once upon a time, but it's a little different now. Currently, you can't bring "trained strength" into Gloucester. Anyone, even Morgan returns to their natural strength when she enters Gloucester.

    1. In other words, a city where everyone becomes lv 1?
    2. At first glance, it's egalitarian but...

    Oberon: Yes, those eager to make rules, make loopholes in those rules. Perhaps, Muryan alone is not bound by this rule. That's why in Gloucester, no one can go against Muryan. Remember that well.

    Da Vinci: Hm, the name Sub-Bell is unique to this Lostbelt, right? It seems like a term close to Elemental or True Ancestor. So then, are there any other fae who have inherited the power of Sub-Bells? For example, a clan chief. The fairy territory in the aurora?

    Artoria: No. Fae with that power fall outside the clan system. Being pursued by clan members, self-destructing because they're unable to withstand their own rules.....

    Oberon: Yes. Of the six chieftains only Muryan and Knocknarea can force their fairy territory onto others. Most of the other "territory owners" have self-destructed and became wraiths wandering Britain. They’re called
    Night Call
    Fae Death Lords
    . Depending on one's opinion, they're scarier than a fae knight.



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    It kind of sounds like the fairy territories are a different name for Reality Marbles.

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    So Fairy Lancelot is also someone else? Her dual-wielding Arondight implies at least she's related to him I suppose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OnesFleetingGlory View Post
    So Fairy Lancelot is also someone else? Her dual-wielding Arondight implies at least she's related to him I suppose.
    For sure, if the others are different things.
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    > Einzbern

    > Making smart decisions


    Pick one


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    Palingenesis just sounds like we're creating Sarah Palin.


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    >tfw you betray your ideals to get some


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    In short, Japan's syncretism BS striked again.




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    Quote Originally Posted by You
    big daddy and big mommy fae stuff
    Gloucester's
    Muryan
    Wing Span
    is one of the few. Therefore Gloucester is clothed in a bothersome fairy territory. Muryan's mentality and viciousness give form to a "denial of strength" rule.

    {...}

    Oberon: Yes, those eager to make rules, make loopholes in those rules. Perhaps, Muryan alone is not bound by this rule. That's why in Gloucester, no one can go against Muryan. Remember that well.
    It's a good thing I carry around a hefty book about this sort of stuff.

    For those curious...
    Ahem...

    "Muryan is the Kernowek word for (a collective of) 'ants' and the Kernowyon people believed that they were the souls of ancient heathens, too good for Hell but unable to reach Heaven and gradually lost their natural size and became the size of ants before eventually vanishing. For this reason the Kernowyon people thought it unlucky to step on ants."
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    So, are fairies turning into Black Pudding?

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    Defeat Them Through Their Stomach

    That is Sir Black Dog's hobby. On holidays, starting from the afternoon, she takes her sweet time to cook dishes that are her forte and new ones as well.
    "Since you can get yourself a partner with this, it is the natural thing to do, isn't it. ...Having said so, I won't force you to do the same. This is something I like doing, after all."
    So says Sir Black Dog with a satisfied smile on her face. As if to say that simply by having her beloved visit the kitchen to check on her is enough to bring her joy.
    This is the so-called cooking of a devoted wife. But isn't the size perhaps a bit too big for a human?

    Clumsy Delight
    Clothes, homes, cooking. That much I can understand. Yeah, I can wrap my head around these. After all, I can deal with that much even if I'm a fairy. But figuring out what shoes to wear is just not gonna happen. It's seriously impossible. I'll faint. I mean, they go on your feet, you know? They've got heels, you know? It's about putting your most sensitive spot on show to your heart's content, you know? Bold, gorgeous, captivating, elegant. I've heard there is no magic in the Pan-Human History anymore, but that's a load of bull. You wouldn't be able to find this many magic shoes even in the Land of the Fae. Looking at them, wearing them and adorning them is nice as well, but like I thought my dream is to create my own pair. Getting closer and closer to top-class quality little by little by raising my skill. How many years do you think it will take until I can create my ideal shoes? One year? Or perhaps ten? If I can live long enough to succeed, would you accept a pair from me to commemorate it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by NMR-3 View Post
    Translations of new Bond CEs

    Defeat Them Through Their Stomach

    That is Sir Black Dog's hobby. On holidays, starting from the afternoon, she takes her sweet time to cook dishes that are her forte and new ones as well.
    "Since you can get yourself a partner with this, it is the natural thing to do, isn't it. ...Having said so, I won't force you to do the same. This is something I like doing, after all."
    So says Sir Black Dog with a satisfied smile on her face. As if to say that simply by having her beloved visit the kitchen to check on her is enough to bring her joy.
    This is the so-called cooking of a devoted wife. But isn't the size perhaps a bit too big for a human?

    Clumsy Delight
    Clothes, homes, cooking. That much I can understand. Yeah, I can wrap my head around these. After all, I can deal with that much even if I'm a fairy. But figuring out what shoes to wear is just not gonna happen. It's seriously impossible. I'll faint. I mean, they go on your feet, you know? They've got heels, you know? It's about putting your most sensitive spot on show to your heart's content, you know? Bold, gorgeous, captivating, elegant. I've heard there is no magic in the Pan-Human History anymore, but that's a load of bull. You wouldn't be able to find this many magic shoes even in the Land of the Fae. Looking at them, wearing them and adorning them is nice as well, but like I thought my dream is to create my own pair. Getting closer and closer to top-class quality little by little by raising my skill. How many years do you think it will take until I can create my ideal shoes? One year? Or perhaps ten? If I can live long enough to succeed, would you accept a pair from me to commemorate it?
    Wow, cute.
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