For whatever Chaldea's Case Files is worth, the case set during the Hawaii event is placed between Yuga Kshetra and Atlantis on the timeline. And XX and BB's presence narrows it down further to between Yuga Kshetra and Imaginary Scramble.
For whatever Chaldea's Case Files is worth, the case set during the Hawaii event is placed between Yuga Kshetra and Atlantis on the timeline. And XX and BB's presence narrows it down further to between Yuga Kshetra and Imaginary Scramble.
Voyager doesn't really count as a foreigner so I'd say all of them are cute girlsOriginally Posted by lolque
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But Goredolf hasn't gone to chaldea yet in Hawaii
I'm pretty sure that's how Hokusai's trial quest put it, or something along those lines at least.
Is timetravel hard for outergods?
Or are we assume "if you can time travel, why not conquer the world in the past?"
Or maybe we will eventually come across some sleeping foreigner who's dreaming of Outer gods in the time before Salem, and everything Lovecraft is soo compartmentalized so it can be wiped from history without triggering butterfly effect questions
He wanted to give Amdusias a good punch to the face, so he drank the Jekyll/Hyde potion.
Huh.
The fact that they exist so far outside of everything probably means they exist in some sort of universe of record, so time isn't linear to them the same way it is to us.
Found the this on youtube "Tamamovitch Koyanskaya" (guess this is her full name) scene begin at 7:30 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXKN-NHZVcE it was posted by Neobenedict I don't know if this has been talked about yet so spoiler just in case.
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Hmm, one thing to keep in mind is that Koyan lies. A lot. If the info wasn’t explicitly paid for/promised, then she’s perfectly willing to misinform others. Especially when it involves information about herself (Holmes and Da Vinci even point that out in LB4). If Muryan is paying for her muscle (bodyguard) then there’s a loophole to exploit.
Of course, why would she lie? Beryl promised Koyan Albion (the white dragon of Britain) in exchange for her assistance. If she’s only limited to furred/hairy monsters, why accept that deal? I conjecture she’s perfectly capable of assimilating dragons (at least; I suspect she was grabbing Typhon in Olympus considering how insistent that the Olympians don’t find out what she was doing), but doesn’t want Muryan to know that. In which case, she could’ve also been lying to Chaldea about already having her 6th Tail and thus not an (immediate) threat.
The weird part for me is that Koyan implies she needs 9 Big Ones from the Lostbelts (the Treasured Beast fight supports that since she powers up with each Lostbelt phase), but there’s only 7…the numbers don’t add up.
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I mean, can each Lostbelt provide only one monster? There are multiple big monsters in Greece and Scandinavia for her to steal.
Wait
What if each time we've met Koyanskaya it was actually a different one, like the Tamamo Nine
This might be influenced by my own theory, but I think each Lostbelt can only provide a single Big One. Consider: Koyan was in the Russia Lostbelt for quite a while (long enough that the Yaga recognize her), but only grabbed a single Big One? That seems odd, especially since she lacked info on other LBs (as shown by Emperor Qin sussing her out in a day). She doesn’t move on to the other LBs until AFTER Chaldea destroys them, and I think that’s the key.
The Big Ones get their ‘value’ or worth from the fact that they’re the representation of the Lostbelt they hailed from, which no longer exists. Gilgamesh claimed (back in FSN), that increasing the number of humans devalued them, which is also why he’s pissed at Shirou’s Tracing. What if he was right, in a sense? Trying to grab two Big Ones from a Lostbelt would devalue them, essentially.
Further, Koyan didn’t grab Echidna (who was killed by Chiyomr) despite the fact that Echidna + Typhon would be an absurd combo. I think she needs the Big Ones to be very specific, and thus can’t grab more than one.
Admittedly, this is my own theory. She could be capable of grabbing more than 1, but that raises the question of why she spent so much time in Russia instead of heading to Scandinavia or Greece ASAP.
Also, you might be right about different Koyans. After the Treasured Beast fight, she claims she has no interest in a Master that ‘can’t even see [me]’. The fight itself was also unusual (none of them are able to land a hit on her), implying some type of illusion…
Maybe her interest in learning the history of LB6 is to found out if there is another big one she can snatch that didn't exist in PHH? We know Albion did exist once on PHH, but with how different the history of LB6 is compare to PHH, maybe she's hoping to come across something that absolutely didn't existed on PHH but fulfills her requirements regardless
Look in that scene about how she referred in a berating tone to each of the past lostbelts, but LB6 is so full of possibilities (of different kinds of lives aka different types of fairies)
That is one of the most preposterous theory I've ever come across.
Hmm, perhaps. Though it is unusual that she didn’t check out the LBs ahead of time. If LB6 was a treasure trove (major deviation, lots of monsters, very few powerful individuals that’d be willing to stop her), it’d make sense for her to hang out there rather than risk getting caught by Qin, for example.
One, if not, the major of Koyas faults is that she's too full of herself. That's why she got caught by Qin, she thought she could take him out at any given moment and then he screwed her ten times over for that. It wouldn't be surprising to think she underestimated all LBs potentials and that's why she didn't research any of them in advance, but then Beryl told her, to her shock, that the Albion dragon was alive on LB6, and that sparked her interest on what else she may have overlooked on LB6
Anyway, but my guess for now is that she may ended up absorbing
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If she's Kazuradrop, being the absorbed one sounds like a pretty good ironic twist for her thematic.
True, overestimating herself is one of Koyan’s major flaws, but I’m also curious what she would’ve had to do if a Lostbelt didn’t have any monsters. For example, if the Foreign God took steps to make sure she couldn’t ascend as a Beast by ordering the Crypters to kill any monsters, Or if the Lostbelt King took out potential Big Ones before she could show up at all (I could imagine Qin going on a hunting spree to prevent monsters from attacking his empire).
Amusingly enough:Spoiler:
I'd rather have Vitch eat Kazuradrop than Kazuradrop eat Vitch. That would be a super anticlimactic way for Vitch to go out after all of this buildup.
That reminds me, Vitch claimed that her business in LB6 is over, and the only reason she's still around is because Muryan hired her. Vitch came to LB6 because Beryl told her about the dragon Albion. I wonder if that means she already captured it.
I doubt it, since Albion’s capture would probably be big news for the inhabitants (I doubt it’d go down without a fight at least). There’s also her statement to Muryan: “As long as it has fur/bodily hair and lived, I can incorporate it into part of my being”
If she was after Albion, then she’s lying to Muryan (since Albion was a dragon), so I think Koyan hasn’t gotten Albion yet, and doesn’t want Muryan to suspect that she’s even capable of doing so. The only benefit that would bring is allowing Koyan to get close enough to absorb Albion (and probably more, if possible). Not to mention, I’d imagine she’d want to head to LB7 to absorb something there ASAP (unless Daybit gave her a Big One back in LB4 as payment for teleporting him into India to help out Pepe) since it’s the last LB left (the British one will disappear no matter what).
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