Fate/Grand Order Story and Lore (CONTAINS SPOILERS)

[Neco-Arc Evolution]

I still think Beryl just doesn't have a servant.

So, there wouldn't be a Master-Servant Boss Battle like part1 of part2?
Assuming this is part2 of part2 and that things could be different, I think it is plausible to not have a proper Master-Servant duel.
That or someone else will take a similar role.

[rxrx]

So, there wouldn't be a Master-Servant Boss Battle like part1 of part2?
Assuming this is part2 of part2 and that things could be different, I think it is plausible to not have a proper Master-Servant duel.
That or someone else will take a similar role.

Placing my bets on the grand battle being Chaldea vs Beryl, just like how it was Chaldea vs Kirschtaria in Olympus.

Or even better, Beryl and C.Artoria third ascension vs Chaldea+Morgan.

[Gold Experience]

He could pull a Kirschtaria, kill Tristan and then summon her

[Master of Chaos]

Changing subjects a little, anyone else think that the whole issue regarding Muramasa being an Alterego was one hell of a curve ball?

[rxrx]

Changing subjects a little, anyone else think that the whole issue regarding Muramasa being an Alterego was one hell of a curve ball?

No. We know Nasu will want to insert a pseudo Shirou into an Artoria story, so putting Muramasa in is expected. Having him stay saber is not too good for gameplay purpose, so making him an alterego is a logical choice.

[asterism42]

But also Beryl technically never told Da vinci which class he wanted to summon. We assume by the pattern and his personality that he would want an Assassin. But this is just an assumption.

This is true. We assumed Assassin because it was the only one of the seven 'proper' Servants left; and Mash filled the Extra class slot, being a Shielder and all.

[rxrx]

This is true. We assumed Assassin because it was the only one of the seven 'proper' Servants left; and Mash filled the Extra class slot, being a Shielder and all.

I dunno. Maybe his servant is Galahad and they bonded over keeping Mashu pure in body and pure in mind.

[Master of Chaos]

No. We know Nasu will want to insert a pseudo Shirou into an Artoria story, so putting Muramasa in is expected. Having him stay saber is not too good for gameplay purpose, so making him an alterego is a logical choice.

I see your point, but the rationale they presented in the story seemed quited forced to me.

[Wolf Paladin]

Honestly it depends on the direction of the story

If Oberon is lying about the prophecy being needed to help Chaldea and the Lostbelt then like we expect he is most likely working with Beryl

On the other hand if he isn’t lying and Mashu is being teleported to Morgan’s side then Morgan might use Mashu to fight against the prophecy.

Because that is something that I don’t really see much in the discussion : how does Morgan feel about the whole prophecy ? Because it clearly states that she will be defeated.

If I was Morgan and knew about a prophecy that would defeat me and had the opportunity to go against said prophecy I would take it.
Morgan could see Mashu as a way to break the prophecy and continue her rule.

But again it depends on whether Oberon is truthful or not.

[Herod]

I see your point, but the rationale they presented in the story seemed quited forced to me.

We knew that Alien God Follower Muramasa was an Alter Ego since LB5.1.

[Comun]

Then again Oberon seemed pretty okay that Mashu and MC went against the prophecy as well，so his position is still vague.

Oberon's biggest claim is that Britain is a world we must save rather than destroy, that everything will turn out perfectly fine if we just beat Morgan. The prophecy he stuck so hard to is effectively just a big tool to guarantee's Morgan defeat, so if that's just an "as long as Morgan is gone" deal, it makes sense for him to be fine with the broken prophecy if someone else looks like they can do it without the prophecy.

[Gold Experience]

Honestly it depends on the direction of the story

If Oberon is lying about the prophecy being needed to help Chaldea and the Lostbelt then like we expect he is most likely working with Beryl

On the other hand if he isn’t lying and Mashu is being teleported to Morgan’s side then Morgan might use Mashu to fight against the prophecy.

Because that is something that I don’t really see much in the discussion : how does Morgan feel about the whole prophecy ? Because it clearly states that she will be defeated.

If I was Morgan and knew about a prophecy that would defeat me and had the opportunity to go against said prophecy I would take it.
Morgan could see Mashu as a way to break the prophecy and continue her rule.

But again it depends on whether Oberon is truthful or not.

Morgan adopting Tristan is her way of fighting the prophecy (not to mention a purge 16 years ago), or at least that's what Oberon think. And then Spriggan claim the higher ups know the prophecy is rather a political thing.

[OnesFleetingGlory]

Honestly it depends on the direction of the story

If Oberon is lying about the prophecy being needed to help Chaldea and the Lostbelt then like we expect he is most likely working with Beryl

On the other hand if he isn’t lying and Mashu is being teleported to Morgan’s side then Morgan might use Mashu to fight against the prophecy.

Because that is something that I don’t really see much in the discussion : how does Morgan feel about the whole prophecy ? Because it clearly states that she will be defeated.

If I was Morgan and knew about a prophecy that would defeat me and had the opportunity to go against said prophecy I would take it.
Morgan could see Mashu as a way to break the prophecy and continue her rule.

But again it depends on whether Oberon is truthful or not.

She did take precaution with the prophecy, by ordering Woodwose to decimate Castoria's village Tintagel. And as an extra, she bestowed her magic to Sith and then adopted her since the prophecy said only the queen and the Child of Prophecy are the fairies who could use magic, as to ensure her rule.

She went so far as to send all three of Fae Knights to attack Sheffield in order to capture the CoP once words came around that the Child's there.

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Oberon's biggest claim is that Britain is a world we must save rather than destroy, that everything will turn out perfectly fine if we just beat Morgan. The prophecy he stuck so hard to is effectively just a big tool to guarantee's Morgan defeat, so if that's just an "as long as Morgan is gone" deal, it makes sense for him to be fine with the broken prophecy if someone else looks like they can do it without the prophecy.

What about the part where it'll turn the planet into a black hole if left alone in 24 hours?

[mami-kouga]

I dunno. Maybe his servant is Galahad and they bonded over keeping Mashu pure in body and pure in mind.

He's doing a shit job in that case

[fumei]

What about the part where it'll turn the planet into a black hole if left alone in 24 hours?

I don't remember if Oberon really mentioned that (meaning, I don't know if he knows, but considering Chaldea never says anything to him about it it's safe to assume they're on the same level here), but I think there are implications or at least the possibility that the Collapse is a result of something Morgan is doing. Ergo, remove Morgan, stop the collapse. Of course, I think we all know that the story won't just proceed in a way where we can defeat Morgan and leave all the fairies living happily forever after while we go take care of the Alien God.

[rxrx]

He's doing a shit job in that case

He lost credibility when he ejected at the start of season 2. Then again, Nasu seems to be hinting that the problem is with Mashu's mental block and not with Galahad.

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I don't remember if Oberon really mentioned that (meaning, I don't know if he knows, but considering Chaldea never says anything to him about it it's safe to assume they're on the same level here), but I think there are implications or at least the possibility that the Collapse is a result of something Morgan is doing. Ergo, remove Morgan, stop the collapse. Of course, I think we all know that the story won't just proceed in a way where we can defeat Morgan and leave all the fairies living happily forever after while we go take care of the Alien God.

I wonder if in the end, the right way to end this is still terminating the belt, thus Morgan joined Chaldea just to spite C. Artoria who is dead set to protect it no matter the cost. Maybe we might get MC+Morgan+Mashu vs Muramasa + C. Artoria+ Beryl for the finale of the chapter.

[Comun]

I'm not betting on Beryl being alive for the finale tbh.

[rxrx]

I'm not betting on Beryl being alive for the finale tbh.

He be the type of yandere where he wants to leave a permanent mark in Mashu's heart through dying by her hands.

[fumei]

Yeah I don't think Beryl cares much about the lostbelt or anything really, but he does seem to care (if you can call it that) for Mashu.

[SirGauoftheSquareTable]

He be the type of yandere where he wants to leave a permanent mark in Mashu's heart through dying by her hands.

He even said that he has to die before Mash, and the opposite cannot happen.