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    I said red. The white one was Vortigern.

    I'm saying the dragon dug the labyrinth, died, and then Merlin was like "ok we'll use the spirit or whatever of this dragon to power the king", but since the dragon's still alive in LB6, it couldn't be shoved inside her which is why Caster doesn't have the dragon trait.

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    Albion means white though. And Vortigern was black.
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    wait
    I swear to god I remember GoA calling Vortigern the white dragon from Merlin's red vs white prophecy but apparently not?

    Nevermind then.

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    ^ I could have sworn I remember reading that two.

    Whoa, have we been under a misapprehension this whole time about Vortigern drinking the blood of the White Dragon? Is this the Mandela effect? (O_o)
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    Looking farther in the thread it looks like Vort hopped himself up on white dragon juice, but that still doesn't change that it never went inside Saber. The red dragon is Ddraig, not Albion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reign View Post
    I said red. The white one was Vortigern.

    I'm saying the dragon dug the labyrinth, died, and then Merlin was like "ok we'll use the spirit or whatever of this dragon to power the king", but since the dragon's still alive in LB6, it couldn't be shoved inside her which is why Caster doesn't have the dragon trait.
    Albion's still alive in pan human.
    It's just a head now but its still digging.
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    I mean, sure, it's technically alive, but completely torn apart with pieces spread all over the place. Beryl's selling pitch implies Lostbelt Albion managed to dig the hole all the way to Avalon unharmed, probably causing the fairies to go up and take over the surface.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Comun View Post
    I mean, sure, it's technically alive, but completely torn apart with pieces spread all over the place. Beryl's selling pitch implies Lostbelt Albion managed to dig the hole all the way to Avalon unharmed, probably causing the fairies to go up and take over the surface.
    Why is bad again that this happens? The fairies going up to the surface? like they like kill for fun or something?

    Also, for all this recently about fairies is almost sure by this point that LB6 King is either the Fairy King or Morgan or Vivian but I don't expect Votigern at all.

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    I assume the fairies being up prevents Mystery from degrading, turning the world into a fairy utopia that's not too easy for humans to survive. Beryl does complain about there being far more mythical beasts than people running around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Comun View Post
    I mean, sure, it's technically alive, but completely torn apart with pieces spread all over the place. Beryl's selling pitch implies Lostbelt Albion managed to dig the hole all the way to Avalon unharmed, probably causing the fairies to go up and take over the surface.
    It still being alive in pan-human history would suggest Albion has no relation to Artoria's Conceptual Conception which is the theory being suggested here.

    Quote Originally Posted by Reign View Post
    Theory: the dragon that dug Spirit Tomb Albion is the red dragon of Britain, the one inside Saber.

    Beryl says Albion is still alive in LB6. Castoria, also from LB6, has neither the dragon trait nor the Pendragon surname, meaning she has no dragon inside her. And the reason she doesn't is because it's still up and walking around.

    Also Castoria's dislike line in My Room is she doesn't like the Albion dragon.
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    I knew the dragon's heart still had magical energy but I didn't know it was still considered alive. If it is though, then yeah it most likely isn't related to Saber's dragon.

    Quote Originally Posted by ballinamon View Post
    Also, for all this recently about fairies is almost sure by this point that LB6 King is either the Fairy King or Morgan or Vivian but I don't expect Votigern at all.
    The title of the chapter is Avalon le Fay so most likely Morgan.

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    Iirc it's the eye that's still considered alive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Comun View Post
    I assume the fairies being up prevents Mystery from degrading, turning the world into a fairy utopia that's not too easy for humans to survive. Beryl does complain about there being far more mythical beasts than people running around.
    Since Merlin gives this scenario when talking about Rhon in GoA:
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    So, if... let me think. If someone wanted to fill the planet with ether once more, he'd undoubtedly build his workshop here on this island. This place is the final relic of the Age of Gods, so it could be the tipping point to flip the entire world backwards.
    The Holy Lance exists to stake the world in place and prevent that from happening. To protect Britain is to seal a world of magic."
    To me LB6 seems a world like this (fill with ether, flipped backwards from how it is on pan human). And we know the LB King has Rhon so realizing this scenario worldwide could be their end goal (or maybe it's Beryl's end goal).

    In any case I'm expecting Nasu to drop lore on what caused the disappearance of ether from the atmosphere, since on Babylon he hinted at it when Da Vinci when on about the three stages of the AoGs

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reign View Post
    I knew the dragon's heart still had magical energy but I didn't know it was still considered alive. If it is though, then yeah it most likely isn't related to Saber's dragon.


    The title of the chapter is Avalon le Fay so most likely Morgan.
    Quote Originally Posted by Comun View Post
    Iirc it's the eye that's still considered alive.
    The heart is dead.
    The head separated from the body and kept digging. Like Comun said, it's the eyes that have residual magical energy and keep the head alive. The head is also where the Sealing Designation Observatory is.
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    And we know the LB King has Rhon so realizing this scenario worldwide could be their end goal (or maybe it's Beryl's end goal).
    Well, the rhongo used by the LB king wasn't the real thing, it was magecraft weaved to exactly imitate it. But yeah what you said could still apply.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rafflesiac View Post
    Albion means white though.
    Update: Albion was just announced today for Yugioh and he's black.

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    Luckily FGO tries harder these days and thus Albion will most certainly not be a reskinned Fafnir
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rafflesiac View Post
    Luckily FGO tries harder these days and thus Albion will most certainly not be a reskinned Fafnir
    Yeah, it's gonna be a gurl humanoid. Cause she sells.



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    Is Morgan the psycho princess who supposedly creeped out Beryl? Probably.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SirGauoftheSquareTable View Post
    Is Morgan the psycho princess who supposedly creeped out Beryl? Probably.
    Well, she has three personalities, she just needs one of them to be the yandere princess

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    Yeah, it's gonna be a gurl humanoid. Cause she sells.
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