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    Quote Originally Posted by Comun View Post
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    Gilles claiming that Francesca says outer space isn't real has really interesting implications, considering Francesca's goal is to get a miniature of the world to "expose the truth" as much as possible. On Francesca's side, it finally starts to connect her goals to her Spellbook backstory, and on Marisbilly's side, it starts to connect his plan of creating fictional worlds with his status as Lord of Astrology.
    So he is not talking about the space where the outer gods reside? He is talking about literal astronomical space?
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    In Case Files, Olga Marie explains to Waver that the Animusphere only look at the stars as means to better understand the world, because the universe is a reflection of Earth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herod View Post
    So he is not talking about the space where the outer gods reside? He is talking about literal astronomical space?
    da Vinci said Cthulhu mythos can't be proven real, and he answered that nothing from outer space can be proven real. The fact Ishtar's NP is pulling Venus from the Sumerian texture, and it's completely unrelated to the real planet Venus, corroborates his claim by showing that what we see in the sky is still part of the texture.

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    but the machine gods and Sephar still came from outer space though

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    Singularities, Lostbelts... possible worlds that could exist yet deemed to diverge too much to the point of pruning...
    With the upcoming LB3 in NA, I'm reminded of that scene where Marisbilly offered paisen a world where she could live in isolation. Now I'm wondering if he's referring to his plan there.



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    Are poems bad in LB3?


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    Only if they're not about Shi Huang.

    Imaginary Scramble chapter 4 part 2

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    Quote Originally Posted by rocohanda View Post
    He wasn't mentioned. But yeah, it could be Flauros. I'm just saying that it sounds like something whoever it is would say right after he has played his part and feels ready to go to the "other side", leaving the rest in Ritsuka's hands.
    Wasnt it Flauros that Gil was talking to and told him to ask Ritsuka for the reason to fight, which leads to enlightenment which in turn leads to the desintegrating King of Man Goetia VS Guda fsn shout out fist fight?

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    what did the Scathach event tell us about the Land of Shadows and its lore and worldbuilding?

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    Nothing.

    Imaginary Scramble parts 4 and 5. The point where the puzzle is starting to get solved.
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    Really hoping they show off Danzou's Moonflower as the kill shot on Douman. I'd be such a sick way to finish him off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Comun View Post
    da Vinci said Cthulhu mythos can't be proven real, and he answered that nothing from outer space can be proven real. The fact Ishtar's NP is pulling Venus from the Sumerian texture, and it's completely unrelated to the real planet Venus, corroborates his claim by showing that what we see in the sky is still part of the texture.
    Is this implying the Moon Landing was a hoax? What about Voyager?

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    I think it's a bit deeper and more complicated than that. I'd say it ties into how the human texture, or rather the extent of the "human awareness", affects something much further beyond just Earth. For example Ayala (mankind) is the thing that governs pruning/timelines which surely affects the entire solar system at the very least, then you also have that tie into Suzuka's NP. I think Mizu talked about this at some point but I can't find it so I'll just paraphrase my own paraphrasing here:

    In Buddhism the universe is made of 3 billion solar systems (a great trichiliocosm). A galaxy is made of 3000 solar systems (a small trichiliocosm), and 1000 small trichiliocosms make up a trichiliocosm, which actually aligns with the real scale of galaxies, galaxy clusters, and superclusters. so you have that 1 galaxy = 1 sanzensekai (3000 worlds), 1000 galaxies (a galaxy cluster) = 1 sanzendaisekai, and 1000 galaxy clusters (a supercluster) = the sanzendaisensekai. So you can extrapolate from here and do some LB theorizing and think about how a fantasy tree has a galaxy inside it, but it also represents an entire timeline (or texture, but whatever), which is a lostbelt. This sort of supports that a timeline is somehow connected to a galaxy, and then with Suzuka's NP (Trichiliocosm) she can see every and all timelines, and that connection makes itself, pretty much.

    It's kinda rambling but the point is that there's some deeper connection between space (galaxies and clusters and the universe at large) and textures/timelines. It's not that none of it is "real" like we didn't land on the moon because it's not actually there or anything, but there's definitely something fucky with the whole interaction between the human texture/scale of human awareness and the rest of the universe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zork Knight View Post
    Is this implying the Moon Landing was a hoax? What about Voyager?
    Not "hoax", just "part of the texture". That's may be the reason the multiverse pruning is managed by Alaya alone, by the way. The whole universe may be manipulated or even created by human preconceptions.
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    There must be alien textures, since there are aliens like the ones who created Chaos and the Olympians by extension, as well as whoever created Sefar.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fumei View Post
    I think it's a bit deeper and more complicated than that. I'd say it ties into how the human texture, or rather the extent of the "human awareness", affects something much further beyond just Earth. For example Ayala (mankind) is the thing that governs pruning/timelines which surely affects the entire solar system at the very least, then you also have that tie into Suzuka's NP. I think Mizu talked about this at some point but I can't find it so I'll just paraphrase my own paraphrasing here:

    In Buddhism the universe is made of 3 billion solar systems (a great trichiliocosm). A galaxy is made of 3000 solar systems (a small trichiliocosm), and 1000 small trichiliocosms make up a trichiliocosm, which actually aligns with the real scale of galaxies, galaxy clusters, and superclusters. so you have that 1 galaxy = 1 sanzensekai (3000 worlds), 1000 galaxies (a galaxy cluster) = 1 sanzendaisekai, and 1000 galaxy clusters (a supercluster) = the sanzendaisensekai. So you can extrapolate from here and do some LB theorizing and think about how a fantasy tree has a galaxy inside it, but it also represents an entire timeline (or texture, but whatever), which is a lostbelt. This sort of supports that a timeline is somehow connected to a galaxy, and then with Suzuka's NP (Trichiliocosm) she can see every and all timelines, and that connection makes itself, pretty much.

    It's kinda rambling but the point is that there's some deeper connection between space (galaxies and clusters and the universe at large) and textures/timelines. It's not that none of it is "real" like we didn't land on the moon because it's not actually there or anything, but there's definitely something fucky with the whole interaction between the human texture/scale of human awareness and the rest of the universe.
    It would be pretty simple to explain as "our texture has a moon that's a giant rock thst reflects sunlight, while AoG textures had it be a magic chariot/the eye of some god/a lantern put there by another god/whatever".
    But textures are somehow confined to the planet Earth despite clearly encompassing much more than it (since Ishtar can pull out Venus or whatever).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deathhappens View Post
    It would be pretty simple to explain as "our texture has a moon that's a giant rock thst reflects sunlight, while AoG textures had it be a magic chariot/the eye of some god/a lantern put there by another god/whatever".
    But textures are somehow confined to the planet Earth despite clearly encompassing much more than it (since Ishtar can pull out Venus or whatever).
    My understanding has always been that Ishtar's Venus wasn't Venus sized and that Kirchstaria's stars weren't star sized, because they were basically what humanity thought stars were back in the day (so everything much smaller than earth).

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