Fate/Grand Order Story and Lore (CONTAINS SPOILERS)

[Byegod]

The thing is excalibur 'thing' is pure power, and you think it would talk about the seals so it feels weird that marmy is stronger even if its myth accurate.

I dont mind but i feels weird

[SirGauoftheSquareTable]

Nasu I'm begging you let Emiya give her Excalibur and say 'Can you keep up with me?' you reference-loving fucker.

arashi i know you're reading this, put a bug in his ear you know you want to

I want this too, and also, miss you Arashi.

[Glazy]

If Marmyadoise > Excalibur that makes the whole "Archer is herc best class" really weird.

I get it Hydra poison is op and herc spent most of his life as an archer.

But Nine Lives + Marmyadoise like what you suppose to do now?

[Herod]

Nine lives+sword = exquisite technique.
Nine lives+bow = giant dragon lasers.

[Deathhappens]

So I keep hearin' "in myth" this and "mythologically" that about Marmyadoise/Marmalade but seein' as how I'm an uneducated bumpkin who ain't never heard of such thing before... where the heck did this thing come from?

[SirGauoftheSquareTable]

Same. Which Arthurian legend is it in?

[Kelp24]

I think it's the same legends where Excalibur is given to Gawain hence Excalibur Galatine. Marmyadose powercrept it.

Might have been in the beard stealers loot.

[Herod]

Same. Which Arthurian legend is it in?

From what I get it should appear in the "History of Merlin" portion of the Vulgata cycle. Marmiadoise was the sword of King Rion (Rience). When Arthur saw it, he desired it "more than any city" and battled Rion for it. At the end, he killed king Rion with his own sword. After Arthur obtained Marmiadoise, he gave Excalibur to Gawain.

I'm not an expert of Arthurian lore by any means, so feel free to correct me.

[Deathhappens]

So where does the whole "sword of Hercules" come into the picture? Most Arthurian writings tend to be not too hot on Hellenism, as I understood it.

[Herod]

So where does the whole "sword of Hercules" come into the picture? Most Arthurian writings tend to be not too hot on Hellenism, as I understood it.

from here.

And the Kynge Arthur smote so in the malle that he helde before hym in bothe hondes that he kutte the helve asonder faste by the hede, and yet was it bounde with iren. The stroke was grete and rudely smyten and discended upon the corner of his shelde that he slitte it to the bokill; and with the plukkynge of his swerde agein to hym, he made the Kynge Rion for to stomble, that was sory for his brasen malle that he hadde so loste. And than he leide honde to his swerde that was oon of the beste of the worlde, for as the booke seith, it was som tyme Hercules, that ledde Jason into the Ile of Colchos for to fecche the flees of goolde; and with that swerde dide Hercules sle many a geaunte in that londe where Jason ledde Medea that so moche hym loved; but after, he hir failled, whereas Hercules hir dide helpe by his grete debonertee. And the booke seith that Vlcan iforged that swerde in the tyme of Adrastus, the Kynge of Greece, that many a day hadde in his tresour. This same swerde hadde Tideus, the sone of the Duke of Calcedoyne, that day that he dide the message to Ethiocles for Polemyte; and in his comynge homwarde with the same swerde he slowgh fifty at an hill. And after wente this swerde fro hande to hande and from heir to heir that now hath it the Kynge Rion that com of the lynage of Hercules that was so noble and hardy.

[AAM1232]

http://www.ancienttexts.org/library/...s_british.html

Viterbo invented six kings of Gaul:

• Samothes also called Dis: a son of the biblical Japheth. First king of "Celtica", some 200 years after the Flood. Viterbo claims that Britain was once called Samothes in his honor, but there is no other record of this. Identifying him as Dis shows familiarity with Caesar's claim that the Gauls claimed descent from Dis Pater, as well as an understanding of the common culture between Gaul and Britain.
• Magus son of Samothes; his name derives from the Latin term for a magic-user.
• Saron son of Magus
• Druis son of Saron: credited with founding the Druids; obviously this is the origin of his name.
• Bardus son of Druis: credited with founding the Bards; again, this is obvious from his name.
• Albion son of Neptune: for whom the isle is named Albion. The name Albion goes back at least to Ptolemy. He was a giant who invaded Britain, killed Bardus, and ruled the island for forty-four years. At this time, Hercules invaded and overthrew Albion.

Holinshed's Chronicles
Ralph Holinshed's influential Chronicles borrows and expands on Viterbo's list, making them kings of Britain:

• Samothes
• Magus
• Sarronius
• Druiyus
• Bardus
• Longho
• Bardus Junior
• Lucus
• Celtes: Celtes is sometimes mentioned in Roman histories as a supposed ancestor of the Celts.
• Albion (invaded Samothea)
• Hercules (defeated Albion)
• Celtes: in Greek myth, he is the son of Herakles by Keltine, daughter of Bretannus
• Galates: Galates is named as a son of Herakles in Diodorus' Bibliotheka.

Some stories also have Herc as a king of Britain.

[Herod]

Every mythology is a giant mess that makes no sense and contradicts itself all the time.

[AmADo VII]

Castoria 3rd ascension my room lines have lot of spoilers lol.

[Cylascream]

**
"Galant the smith forged it and Sir Vulcan carved it; there were three goddesses to temper it and three fairies to carve it. Never on account of any blow will it bend, nor will it ever be burned by rust, nor will there ever be a man hurt by it who will heal from the wound."**

So, the sword is made by Vulcan the Roman God of Blacksmith, Galant who is from Norse, and 3 unnamed Goddesses + 3 Faeries
So this sword also seems to be special,
As it has been created by multiple deities
Also Vulcan/Hephaestus gave it magical runes so maybe it has Primordial Runes?

[fumei]

What makes a sword a holy sword anyways? Marmyadose is forget by a god so doesn't that make it holy? well, is kinda alien tech but in PHH it should count as holy, right?

Every sword made by a god isn't a holy sword, just like how every weapon made by a god isn't a divine construct.

[SpoonyViking]

Either Geoffrey of Monmouth or his sources created a new Trojan prince, Brutus, just so he could settle on the island and give it his name - hence "Britain". The Historia is also the work which gave Caesar his magical sword, Crocea Mors.
So yeah, invoking the Classics wasn't anything new by the time of the Vulgate.

[Byegod]

Every mythology is a giant mess that makes no sense and contradicts itself all the time.

You should see how many mythos reference other mythos to realize the true clusterfuck

[Laserman]

yeah it was forged by Hephasteus

I don't understand, how can does she have a sword that Hercules had?

[Lobo]

I don't understand, how can does she have a sword that Hercules had?

Because according to the Vulgate Merlin, the sword was passed down from person to person till Arthur won it battling king Rions
I don't know why are you surprise about it when Charlemagne's paladins, Mandricardo and others fought each other for Hector's weapons

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From what I get it should appear in the "History of Merlin" portion of the Vulgata cycle. Marmiadoise was the sword of King Rion (Rience). When Arthur saw it, he desired it "more than any city" and battled Rion for it. At the end, he killed king Rion with his own sword. After Arthur obtained Marmiadoise, he gave Excalibur to Gawain.

I'm not an expert of Arthurian lore by any means, so feel free to correct me.

I just checked the Arthurian Name Dictionary by Christopher W. Bruce (totally recommendable for a quick search when Nasu goes with this obscure references) and yeah, seems the sword only appears on the Vulgate Merlin and a later english retelling of that source


Interesting, the horse Spumador mention on the profile comes from Spencer's The Faerie Queene, is this the first time this source got referenced in some way? Are we gonna see Fairy Queen Gloriana (Elizabeth I) on LB6?

[asterism42]

https://old.reddit.com/r/FGOGuide/co...my_room_lines/

Castoria lines. So much speculation fuel here lmao. She's definitely the LB6 partner, and I really think the Lostbelt should have been released before her.