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    It's a missile launcher called 'Blowpipe'.

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    Not exactly a great MANPAD from what I remember. Had a pretty dismal record during thr Falklands War.

    I think the anime has him use the Stinger MANPAD instead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pinetree View Post
    But that is what he uses. Blowpipe is a type of missile laucher.
    I know. But in anime, he used Stinger, actually.

    I wonder what Gen really wrote in the FZ novel. It is strange when my country's publisher suddenly translate " missile laucher" to " Blowpipe". For what? Show their knowledge about weapon??? I don't think they will waste their time for that.
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    Fate/Zero Episode 9: The episode starts with Kayneth seeing Lancer's past, that's always fun.
    The fact that Sola-Ui was willing to break his fingers herself to get the command seals shows that she doesn't really care about her husband. She just wants to be Lancer's Master, but even with them in her possession, he's still loyal to Kayneth. It's only when she says she wants the Holy Grail to heal him that Lancer agrees to the arrangement, but it's just words. I don't know for sure if she's being affected by that skill but...

    Kiritsugu sets off to finish what he did last episode, leaving Saber to ask if there's anyway that he'll change his about Caster to Irisviel.


    And then Waver and Rider find out where Caster's hideout is by testing the water that ran through the city.

    When they it find though, god..., I just made sure my screen was bright too, I didn't remember that scene at all.

    Those two are just pure evil, anyone who does something like that is just pure evil. But going there let them find out that Assassin is still alive as well. The scene when Waver just looks at the shoe on fire was just so sad.

    There are 4 days left of the Holy Grail War.

    I thought the next episode would be later on though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kohaku View Post
    I know. But in anime, he used Stinger, actually.

    I wonder what Gen really wrote in the FZ novel. It is strange when my country's publisher suddenly translate " missile laucher" to " Blowpipe". For what? Show their knowledge about weapon??? I don't think they will waste their time for that.
    Well I don't have the original text on hand but the Brazilian version translated it as a "Blowpipe missile launcher" so I'm betting yours just omitted part of it to prevent redundancy.

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    Fate/Zero Episode 10: Rin has such nice memories of her father, so it was seeing them together. It took a lot of courage to go out into a city at night to look for her friend, but she managed to save her and the other kids. She needed to be saved Kariya in the end though who just happened to be in the area. Then after he brings Rin back to the park he promises to save Sakura from getting eaten away at like him, which doesn't even happen, so that doesn't make sense.
    But besides that it was a fun episode, but I'm really excited for the next one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Laserman View Post
    Then after he brings Rin back to the park he promises to save Sakura from getting eaten away at like him, which doesn't even happen, so that doesn't make sense.
    Wait, I know it's not exactly the same, but don't the worms basically munch out her womb and part of her nervous system? That's still pretty bad even if it's not turning her into a shambling corpse like Kariya.
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    Fate/Zero Episode 11:

    I didn't remember the whole thing being started by Rider just wanting to settle who deserved the Grail by just talking about it.

    Then you bring Gilgamesh in the mix, and you now have 3 kings from completely different legends and time periods talking about what their rule means/meant to them, and it's so interesting hearing them discuss that among themselves.

    I hate that I know understand what Gilgamesh meant by Saber's face being the same as the virgins who showered him with flowers at his bed, because back then I didn't.

    Saber's idea of being king and her wish to save Britain amuses him, but Rider disagrees with all of it.

    Another thing I find interesting is Tokiomi making Kirei send Assassin out like that after rewatching it now. Even if it was to provoke Rider into using his Noble Phantasm, you lost one of the best ways to watch your enemies and or attack them. Is a Servant like Assassin really worth the information?

    But seeing of my favorite moments again was so cool.

    Someone like Rider that isn't a mage shouldn't have a Noble Phantasm like that, but he does and it's still so amazing and impressive.
    Assassin stood no chance in a open area like that against that army.

    After that battle, before he leaves, Rider says he doesn't consider Saber to be a king anymore, something else I didn't remember.

    This episode has several of the scenes in it that whenever people talk about Fate/Zero, they bring them up, so it's one I was excited for. It's easily one of the best episodes so far.
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    Fate/Zero Episode 12:
    After Assassin's death, Kirei reports to Tokiomi that Rider's Noble Phantasm is rank EX, just like Gate of Babylon, too powerful to give a rank. Without that information, Tokiomi says they could have been caught off guard by that, but...

    Then you have Kiritsugu in a hotel, go over all the information on the Masters in the war. He hasn't found Kayneth, Rider's mobility makes it hard to pin down a location, Caster's still abducting and killing kids, and while Kariya would be easy to take out, Berserker pretty much counters Gilgamesh, so keeping them in play for a bit longer would be more beneficial. And then there's Kirei, who's gone after him twice now and Kiritsugu still doesn't know why.

    The explanation for why the Church shelters the Masters that lose their Servants was interesting. So was learning what happens with the Commands Seals in those situations.

    I must have forgot about Kiritsugu's new base just being Shirou's house, that surprised me. And it really is in the middle of everything, but after this story, it's not going to be that much a strategic advantage, more of a hinderance...

    I don't know what is exactly happening to Irisviel, just what happens to her at the end, so I'm interested in seeing where that goes.

    Kirei writing off the man who he's been pursuing so much in his report, is interesting. But Gilgamesh's assessment of it all and what that means for Kirei was interesting too, he's really just being Kirei's evil coach. Him saying what he did about a person who finds joy from people's suffering sure was something.

    Another great episode.

    After the next one, I might post what made start this in the first place.

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    Wait, I know it's not exactly the same, but don't the worms basically munch out her womb and part of her nervous system? That's still pretty bad even if it's not turning her into a shambling corpse like Kariya.
    No, that's not the same.
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    Fate/Zero Episode 13: I just love when a Master sees a dream of their Servant's past or in Waver's case, what Rider really wants. I think the idea of someone going to a bookstore or a library to look up information on a Servant should be done be more often, it's funny.

    Only Caster and Ryunnosuke could come to that conclusion involving God.

    I liked how Rider was like if you had some grand wish for the Holy Grail I would serve you obediently and just bows a little for Waver. But ultimately, the two of them are just tiny blips compared to the rest of the world, which Rider wants to conquer again. Therefore, they work fine as Master and Servant.

    I don't know what language Caster was talking in for the incantation, but is what he summoned considered a separate Noble Phantasm?

    Due to the blessing from the Lady of the Lake, Saber can walk on water. It's not something that comes up again since she doesn't fight on water in any of her fights in Fate/Stay Night. With her and Rider trying to fight it head on, Lancer will use his Noble Phantasm to strike Caster stopping the giant monster before it gets to the city.
    If only it were that simple...

    The preview actually showed scene from the next episode since it was for the second half.

    I was going to show the thing, but I think I'll wait until the end instead. I love the first opening, I used to play it a lot before and I only recently looked at the lyrics again and I saw how well they fit the show. I also learned recently that the ending pictures are based on drawings and images from real life. The second opening is good, I'm just not really a fan of the second ending compared to the first.

    I have to wonder, what really made it so popular. It's never aired on TV before, no Fate anime has. Is it really just being on Netflix and word about it being passed around? But then there's the argument that Netflix's practices for releasing batches of episodes at once kill hype and discussion. The original broadcast then? Actually looking at it, the dub for Fate/Zero made it on Neon Alley first, that's interesting.

    My favorite voice actor is in this, and watching it in English was the first way I watched so how could I not do that again?
    I wasn't happy about some of the voice actor changes from the first anime when I first watched it, but they grew on me.
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    I don't know what language Caster was talking in for the incantation, but is what he summoned considered a separate Noble Phantasm?
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    Fate/Zero Episode 14: And so the second part begins with the battle against Caster's monster.

    The thing's high-speed regeneration is the real problem, the mist it's creating is interesting too.

    The whole entire conversation with Gilgamesh and Tokiomi was sure something. The guy begs him to do destroy the monster, but he deals like 4 blows to the thing and get angry when his Master asks for him to attack again when it clearly isn't dead. Tokiomi planned the whole thing with Risei so he could recover his lost Command Seal, but his plan backfired because his Servant is an arrogant jerk that only cares about nothing but himself.

    When Kariya shows up, Gilgamesh says to toy with him, which is something that I forgot because I was wondering about that considering the way that fight goes.

    Either way, one of the most amazing, unique fights in this anime began between the two of them.


    Being able to turn an entire jet into a Noble Phantasm is just crazy, I never expected it. I have no idea how Berserker managed to get on the thing in the first place. The jet's an F-15 apparently, I don't know about planes and stuff though.

    When Kariya actually confronts Tokiomi about Sakura, the answer gives is he wanted her to be happy. Then he goes on to explain, that yes, Magic Crests can only go to one person, and he doesn't want his daughter to be thrown in with the common masses, and that the Matou's offer was a godsend to him. Like just don't have a second child?

    And I found that not just funny, but I thought that was crazy too.

    Like you hear about and finally see Rin's father for the first time in this show who she talks about so fondly from her memories and in the one episode, I thought they were cute together. And here, he's just a heartless man. It's such a complete difference.

    I don't know what my reaction to this was the first time, but I can probably guess I was shocked. Now, I'm still surprised, but compared to back then, I just think he's also stupid despite the way he acts. Which probably another reason why his Servant doesn't like him.

    I do find it interesting that Kirei was there, but he decided to just watch when he could have came in with the sneak attack.

    Caster forgot that Servants are supposed to protect their Masters while they were having all there fun and left his vulnerable while he's safe inside the giant monster. I remembered that Kiritsugu shot Ryuunosuke, but not twice though. I guess he did it to be sure.

    It was an amazing episode, and I know the next one is going to be just as amazing.
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    Fate/Zero Episode 15:
    Tokiomi magic bug zapper vs Kariya's insects was as one-sided as I remembered.

    "I'll give you a merciful death."

    Proceeds to burn Kariya alive and have him fall down from I don't even know how high a drop, I didn't even remember that.
    The part where right when Kirei is going to finish Kariya off, but instead heals him smiling is probably when he decided to turn traitor.

    I can't imagine what the battle was like in Ionioi Hetairoi.

    The best moment was most definitely Saber using Excalibur. Invisible Air just vanishing, revealing the golden sword, and the strike itself. The lights from the ground and the way blast moved the clouds in the sky.

    Excalibur, the Sword of Promised Victory, is still so amazing. And the version of Sword of Promise Victory that played was pretty good too.

    I was wondering why Saber couldn't use Excalibur and I looked into it.
    A Rank A++ Anti-Fortress Noble Phantasm that emits an all-destroying beam of energy rivaling Saber’s total magical energy. Being sung as “humanity’s most revered” even in the hellish extremes of a battlefield, shining brightly as the crystallization of everything imaginable in the hearts of those who have passed. Because its use requires swinging with both hands, Lancer intentially breaks his Gáe Buidhe to release Saber’s left hand from its curse. The resulting blow from Excalibur that was released is a torrent of light that destroys the giant sea demon.
    So she might have been able to use her sword, but she couldn't make a big swing like she needs to activate it.

    People say that their life flashes before their eyes before death, but that specific flashback must have meant a lot to Caster. He even says right before it, "What..., have I...", like he had this big revelation about his actions. I don't remember who gets the Command Seals if anyone does, so that will be interesting to see next episode.

    I was always confused about which spear is which, and now I guess it should be a little easier to tell, hah.

    I liked when after Lancer destroyed Berserker's plane, he just grabbed the gatling gun, and Gilgamesh just hits him with Gate of Babylon and just winces after doing that, like he really didn't want to get involved. But he understood the situation and wanted to see what Saber would do.

    His response to Rider's about how he likes her suffering because of her rule made Rider say that would never get along.

    And with that there's now only 5 Servants left. There should be only about 3 days left of this Holy Grail War.

    It was definitely another amazing episode.
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    Fate/Zero Episode 16:
    I didn't remember that Kayneth somehow weaseled his way into getting the Command Seal, but he did. Also I find it funny that him, being the way he is, would kill someone with a gun. And now that Risei is dead, there's really nothing stopping Kirei from doing what he wants.

    Lancer deserved a better Master so much. To get yelled at and accused of turning Kayneth's wife against him, when all Lancer wanted to was fight honorably in the Holy Grail War. Even bringing up his legend, not even caring about the circumstances behind that...

    Like if you know that much, why'd you pick him?

    It's very easy to hate that man.

    I-I can't believe, Maiya just snuck I[ on, and cut Sola-Ui's arm off like that with a knife with one swipe. Like how can you do that with a freaking knife like that, Jesus...

    Not even the hand, but the whole arm.

    Consequently, she didn’t care one bit whether the attraction caused by Diarmuid’s mystic face was real love or not. For her, the simple sensation of passion boiling up from the depths of her heart was her greatest treasure, and she had she had no intention of giving it up after she had finally obtained it. Because, passion is the very thing that gives life value.
    So in the end, while I might not know which it was, it doesn't matter. That's interesting I guess.

    The whole thing was a set-up by Kiritsugu, so he could get rid of Lancer by offering Sola-Ui's life in exchange. Those self-geas scrolls aren't worth anything, lol. Anyone could easily get around them, but real mages would never think doing that.

    Lancer's last words after stabbing himself were so full of hate, the red eyes that come out of nowhere and the pained way he was talking just made it worse. I just wish they would've finished their fight. I really liked him, unlike most people which I'll never understand, he was a perfectly fine character.

    Saber and Kiritsugu will never understand each other's actions. At least, she won't understand his until after this war.

    Kiritsugu, in your youth, your truest self, wished to be a hero, did it not? A hero to save the world. You believed in that. You desired it more than life. Am I wrong?
    And the look he just gives her, I forgot about that part at the end, Saber just hit the nail on the head. That talk that had, was definitely memorable though.

    A lot happened in this episode alone. There are now only 4 Servants and 3 days left, man.
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    Fate/Zero Episode 17: So the episode begins with Kirei finding his father dead. That comment that Gilgamesh made about Kirei being furious that he able wasn't to kill his father himself though. For that to come up again... How exactly would that make him happy though? How did someone like that even have a wife in the first place?

    I didn't remember Tokiomi thinking of making an alliance. The condition that Irisviel had though makes me wonder what would happened if she didn't make it one. I didn't understand the explanation she had about herself, it was kind of confusing.

    I was wondering when Saber would get the motorcycle though.

    The message in blood allowed Kirei to take the command seals from Risei even after death. That, and the what-if talk he had with Gilgamesh led up to him literally, literally, stabbing Tokiomi in the back with the Azoth Dagger that he got as a gift from the man, his mentor. That's right after Tokiomi talked with his family for the last time, and had prepared a will naming Kirei as Rin's guardian and in charge of their family's money.

    The smile on his face right before..., he's so twisted. Well, at least, karma gets him in the end with the dagger.

    There's only now 2 days left. It was another great episode, the next one is going to be interesting.
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