A friend in crisis

[ringlhach]

It might be a difference in the law in the different states, then. In FL, TX and UT, first-degree murder/equivalent has been explained to me as "premeditated," meaning "planned." Sure, you can plan in the space of seconds, but it doesn't normally happen.

And about the manslaughter thing, yeah, I explained it wrong. Mike's right.

EDIT: I went and looked at the actual laws; in Florida, that's the case; in Utah, not so much; and in Texas, it'd be murder and not capital murder.

EDIT2: The California Penal Code articles 187 and counting address murder. They make my head hurt, and I have yet to find the end of the damn things. It's probably somewhere around section 200.

[Tobias]

you are misunderstanding the word premeditated, as it can be defined as happening seconds before the murder. even if you have never met someone before, if you stab someone, you are up for murder one, taking out the knife is premeditation, ditto for picking up a lead pipe or something. that action is considered to increase the likelihood of success in the attempt of murder and satisfies the requirement of premeditation. same thing as continuing the assault after someone is unconscious.

[Hoster]

Because you punch someone or yell horrible things to/about them you deserve death? Kinda rare that you hear people actually say something like that.

I was making the assumtion that the man was yelling at the woman and hurting her for all the wrong reasons. I am not denying the possibility that he may have had a reason to be angry with her or lash out at her. For all I know she may have done him wrong.

That doesn't matter though, what matters is that Eddie seemed to have believed that the man was abusing the woman, and that Eddie wanted to help her. The way I see it Eddie has done nothing wrong and should not be punished.

Errrr... what is it that you want them to do, not have a trial at all?

I do not want them to have a system at all, so you can take that as a yes.

[Kotonoha]

I do not want them to have a system at all, so you can take that as a yes.

Oh great, an anarchist...

[SeiKeo]

Fuck yeah, I love anarchy.

[Kotonoha]

ANARCHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

EVERYONE WANTS TO BE ME

[Tohno]

ANARCHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

EVERYONE WANTS TO BE ME

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