what makes you say that?Originally Posted by asterism42
what makes you say that?
I like Nero, but "preferential treatment for this character that should have been only a bit better than Mata-Hari as a servant" is written all over the place for her.
You'd think as a caster she'd be weaker in parameters than she'd be as a saber, but nope, she's the same!Surprisingly enough, they are the same stats from when she is in the Saber class (Noble Phantasm aside).
She has a cool theater and coliseum, so she gets A+ territory creation as a caster, never mind that magi create magical workshops and that's what this skill should be about and different structures built in life that aren't magical shouldn't net such a high territory creation rank! Though you can try to explain it away as her territory also being her NP even though that's not stated at all in the profile, I guess.Territory Creation: A+
As a magician, she can construct a territory beneficial to her.
This time, she got it on an extraordinary rank due to the stories of making the theater and her good administration of the Colosseum.
That makes it sound like Nero can make any magical tool, it doesn't say that but sounds like that, which is a bit too much for, you know, Nero, who didn't even try to go all out as a magus in her life from the look of things.Item Creation (Unconventional): EX
Talent to make a variety of tools. There is nothing the self-proclaimed, almighty genius Emperor Nero can’t make.
Nero can grant other people one-time immortality because she has special mana, why does Nero have special mana? Who knows but now she does! You'd think it might be a Whore of Babylon thing or related to her 3-time-revival skill but it still feels out of nowhere that she can do that for others upon putting on a swimsuit.The Undying Magus: A
Magecraft taught to her by her once magus mentor, Simon Magus.
Simon sentenced himself to decapitation, then revived.
It’s said that, due to her special mana, Nero as a magician can grant one-time immortality to a person and grant them physical strength like that of a beast.
Like I said, I like Nero and I don't care what Type-Moon does with anyone, but all this stuff for caster Nero feels a bit much for a girl who had to force her way into the saber class with imperial privilege because she should be some sort of commander type servant instead of a fighter, let alone a magus.
Well her having the same parameters don’t mean much, Nero’s Parameters are shit and is a disgrace for a Saber
"Only in my company, will you not be a monster"
anywhere than here
man she’s just trying to have fun at the beach let her live
Nero’s mana being special was brought up in the Septem chapter, tho it didn’t go anywhere after that. Though Romulus did say a Beast slept inside her and then I think her interlude went a little more into that.
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Read the other bit of her Item Creation, it’s EX because Nero is creating it, and we all know how Nero really is with creating stuff. What she thinks she can do doesn’t match reality
"Only in my company, will you not be a monster"
anywhere than here
I dunno whats worse, being surprised Nero gets wanked
or taking swimsuit servants seriously
I miss when it was canon that Nero's sword is like a really bad sword that she forged herself, and is made into an okayish one with her permanently active reality warping ego-field, and it would break if anyone else tried to use it, and she'd probably do much better with a real sword.
It was a cute way of wanking Nero while also ridiculing her.
I also have no idea where this was stated.
Sure, but you'd expect a class change to still affect her parameters beyond the NP anyways because the specifications for her saint graph shouldn't be for physical combat unlike the saber ones, but nothing at all drops anyways.
Right, but the mana is still kinda wank because based on the historical Nero and the other Roman emperors I don't think there's a particularly reason for her to be special? Besides possibly the Beast stuff.
And I left out the other stuff in item creation because what you say is true, but what the mats present, which should be taken as the author's explanation of how her skill works, says there's nothing she can't make. It could be an exaggeration, but considering how she made her singing into energy beams and how she remodeled her NP there's no telling just how far she can go if she tries and has more time in her hands.
More like all of the other roman servants.
"An ideal is only an ideal after all. As long as you embrace that ideal, the friction with reality will continue to increase. So you will someday face reality and will have to pay for your compromises"
There's aspects of the swimsuit Servants that are less memey though. For example, for all her Medjed trappings, Nito's NP is the drowning pit that was literally the only aspect of her legends before the Cthulhu lot got a hold of her.
See also: Scathach kicking Gae Bolg.
This
Very true. It's just more noticeable with Caligula since his entire personality is bascly Nero
Well, we've at least been told Romulus is some sort of top dog, and non-Saber super-Caesar has been teased for ages.
Caligula has nothing besides NEEEEROOOOO
Also Tamamo's shin megami tensei skill, it is referenced even in Kiara's profile.
I mean sure a tease or two for the others are fine, but we've still seen absolutely none of this far without knowing the scope.
I honestly wouldn't even have much of problem with nero wank if it's in line with all the other roman servants. For all the arthuria wank, taking away the how special her weapons are to the world she's not that far off from her knights. Mushashi who might be the new favorite also still have kojirou as an 'equal'.
So i just don't like seeing things get piled on nero when the rest of the romans are as dry as a dessert.
"An ideal is only an ideal after all. As long as you embrace that ideal, the friction with reality will continue to increase. So you will someday face reality and will have to pay for your compromises"
The new trend is Musashi wank I've seen randomly on reddit recently.
Random note cause I don’t have a dog in this fight, arguably it makes sense for Nero to have a super beast in her due to the fact that their is a possibility that she herself is the best of revelations.
its cos they're dudes
Though abandoned, forgotten, and scorned as out-of-date dolls, they continue to carry out their mission, unchanged from the time they were designed.
Machines do not lose their worth when a newer model appears.
Their worth (life) ends when humans can no longer bear that purity.
Yeah, the truth hurts.
But we still got neat stuff from merlin and the knights, so i wish we would just get something for the romans sometime. Just release slim caesar and start from there DW.
"An ideal is only an ideal after all. As long as you embrace that ideal, the friction with reality will continue to increase. So you will someday face reality and will have to pay for your compromises"
I mean, that didn't stop Merlin, Caster Gil, King Hassan and Solomon
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