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    To be fair Zouken is a guy who decided to reverse, and slightly alter his name when he moved from Russia to Japan.

    His original name is weird to begin with, but there's certainly a reason for the name Matou Zouken to be a bit odd at least.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Urameshi Yūsuke View Post
    BY THE ROOT!

    Your not serious are you?!
    Well that and misconceptions about lines and translation flubs, but you get the point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blastedspider View Post
    If I remember correctly, even names of Japanese characters (like Kiritsugu or Zouken) in Nasuverse are at best uncommon if not ourtright weird. So it is probably a stylistic choice (maybe to show how separated magi are from common folk).
    Yes, but while the Japanese names are chuuni and probably no one who knows Japanese well would ever want to subject their children to having such names, or having them written out in such a manner, I never got the feeling they were pure foreign gibberish.

    Many of the non-Japanese names, on the other hand, do feel like gibberish randomly mashed together.

    To use an example of foreign gibberish, imagine if I wrote a Japanese character and then said their name was Ching Chong Hyuk-Le or something.

    Something is a little wrong there I'd say.
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    New lows in casual Fate conversation: People unironically bringing up fanfics as an argument because they can't tell what's canon and what's not.
    Fate, though perhaps an issue of all VNs(?), has a distinction of people being almost proud that they have never ever looked at the original source material. That they're proud of not doing research.

    I remember reading a Fate crossover where the author tried to write both sides of the crossover without having even looked at either's source material. He literally tried to base what he knew, off of fanfiction.
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    Quote Originally Posted by warellis View Post
    Yes, but while the Japanese names are chuuni and probably no one who knows Japanese well would ever want to subject their children to having such names, or having them written out in such a manner, I never got the feeling they were pure foreign gibberish.

    To use an example of foreign gibberish, imagine if I wrote a Japanese character and then said their name was Ching Chong Hyuk-Le or something..

    Something is a little wrong there I'd say.
    Yeah, a little wrong...I don't think any anime foreign name has been that outright racist, though please correct me if I'm wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by warellis View Post
    Yes, but while the Japanese names are chuuni and probably no one who knows Japanese well would ever want to subject their children to having such names, or having them written out in such a manner, I never got the feeling they were pure foreign gibberish.

    Many of the non-Japanese names, on the other hand, do feel like gibberish randomly mashed together.
    They used to write foreign name using Kanjis that make them may or may not sound dumb and rubberish in the first place so no surprise here. Back then the katakana characters were not created so they went with full Kanji that when put next to each other sounds (mostly in onyomi reading) kinda similar to the pronunciation of those foreign words, which the Chinese still use nowadays. Examples:

    Nero is 尼祿 which is "nun" and "reward" put next to each other, another meaning for 尼 is slut btw.
    Gilgamesh is 吉爾伽美什 which is "joy", "you", "nurse", "beautiful", "10" put next to each other.
    Cu Chulainn is 庫 夫林 which is warehouse husband forest.
    Medusa is 美杜莎 which is beautiful wood sedge.
    Jeanne d'Arc is 貞德 which is righteous/chastity virtue (it actuall fits her, holy shit)

    ...and many more. Like if you just look up the names of non-JP and non-Chinese servants in Chinese then try to translate those kanjis you're in for a fun time.

    With that history, I'm not surprised they made gibberish foreign names and think it sounds cool.


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    I would be joyful too if I had 10 beautiful nurses around.

    I don't know if Nasu uses different kanji than usual for them, but I was under the impression that Rin, Shirou, Sakura, Shinji, Issei and Taiga were normal-enough names.
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    Taiga isn’t normal, it’s a direct reference to Tiger

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    Though maybe that’s not to odd a name
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    Nah tiger is tora, it's actually 大河 (big river). It just sounds similar to タイガー (tiger) so you get the pun by the others.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mizukume View Post
    Nero is 尼祿 which is "nun" and "reward" put next to each other, another meaning for 尼 is slut btw.
    Nun and Slut are homonyms?


    That actually explains a bunch or LN characters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SirGauoftheSquareTable View Post
    Yeah, a little wrong...I don't think any anime foreign name has been that outright racist, though please correct me if I'm wrong.
    Have you read anything Narita has written ever
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mattias View Post
    Nun and Slut are homonyms?


    That actually explains a bunch or LN characters.
    Get thee to a nunnery.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Walnut Sparks View Post
    Get thee to a nunnery.
    Was waiting for someone to post this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deathhappens View Post
    Have you read anything Narita has written ever
    Haven't really read Durarara or Baccano, nor really any of his other original works. Does he have black characters? Or is it the white characters that are named in a racist manner?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SirGauoftheSquareTable View Post
    Haven't really read Durarara or Baccano, nor really any of his other original works. Does he have black characters? Or is it the white characters that are named in a racist manner?
    Baccano does have quite a lot of wackily named characters (Jacuzzi Splot is a particularly good one) but I can't recall anything "racist". Durarara has a black guy who speaks broken English, but he's actually very intelligent (also Russian) and only uses that as an act to attract customers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RoydGolden View Post
    Baccano does have quite a lot of wackily named characters (Jacuzzi Splot is a particularly good one) but I can't recall anything "racist". Durarara has a black guy who speaks broken English, but he's actually very intelligent (also Russian) and only uses that as an act to attract customers.
    Yeah, I had an idea that Narita had plenty of wacky names, but not any outright "racist" ones.

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    I still don't get the point of the main story in Prisma Corps
    Like what did any of that have to do with Prisma or the Nasuverse
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    Quote Originally Posted by You View Post
    I still don't get the point of the main story in Prisma Corps
    Like what did any of that have to do with Prisma or the Nasuverse
    That the magucal girl scenario in FGO?

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    Quote Originally Posted by You View Post
    I still don't get the point of the main story in Prisma Corps
    Like what did any of that have to do with Prisma or the Nasuverse
    The end did tie with 3rei with the whole "choosing between a friend or the world", still pretty weak though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mizukume View Post
    Nero is 尼祿 which is "nun" and "reward" put next to each other, another meaning for 尼 is slut btw.
    Please tell me Kiara is referred to as a 尼

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