Things that annoy you in TM

[warellis]

Speaking of hosts, IIRC all of the Einzbern homunculi, with the exception of Acht, are female or something right?

[SirGauoftheSquareTable]

Speaking of hosts, IIRC all of the Einzbern homunculi, with the exception of Acht, are female or something right?

Acht isn't a homunculus, but rather a golem and the terminal of the castle A.I. The rest are Justeaze-type homunculi, so they are chicks.

[asterism42]

Sakura is stuck in the Kariya route's situation eh?

Speaking of Sunny Days, doesn't Saber imply in her Eclipse scene in HA that she and Shirou often don't have time to be alone together? And since she was a virgin there, it makes me wonder if Rin was trying to sort of keep them separate a bit.

For all the weird fantasy shit, this is the single thing in FSN that strains my suspension of disbelief the most.

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Saber was deffo lying about being a virgin

[warellis]

For all the weird fantasy shit, this is the single thing in FSN that strains my suspension of disbelief the most.

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Saber was deffo lying about being a virgin

Shirou saw the blood down there. ...In the bath. And he felt himself tear through something in her...

Eww.

[Laserman]

The only difference is the host.

One gets you eaten slowly and painfully. Male

The other makes you horny. Female

Oh, of course they do. But, I think you're leaving out some things.

Because the worms feed on the uterus, or they at least colonize the uterus. Something about the Grail only being hostable by females because of the whole chalice thing.

The chalice thing?

[SirGauoftheSquareTable]

It's essential to the Grail mythos, the idea that the Grail, as a chalice, is a metaphor for a woman's womb and thus fertility. It's also why the Fisher King is injured you-know-where.

[Walnut Sparks]

I thought the early stories were exceedingly unclear on what the Grail even was.

[Skull]

It's essential to the Grail mythos, the idea that the Grail, as a chalice, is a metaphor for a woman's womb and thus fertility. It's also why the Fisher King is injured you-know-where.

Somebody's been reading a little too much Da Vinci's Code.

I thought the early stories were exceedingly unclear on what the Grail even was.

In arguably the earliest Arthurian tale involving the Holy Grail, Percival literally sees a golden grail being carried during the procession of sacred relics.

[Walnut Sparks]

But is it a chalice? I'm failing to find an English translation of the relevant passage online.

Well, that aside, if you're discussing whether Nasu uses the Grail as a womb metaphor, it doesn't ultimately matter whether other authors do, except for determining whether or not he came up with the idea.---

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Okay, so in the English translation I found, it appears in lines 3222 to 3237. It's made of gold and decorated with jewels. It's not called a Holy Grail, although there definitely seems to be a religious undertone. To me, the bleeding lance reads more like a classic Christian miracle. Anyway, the grail is described as a dish. I looked at the Old French, but since I can't read Old French, I couldn't see whether there was anything there that would clarify whether it was a dish or a chalice.

[Skull]

But is it a chalice? I'm failing to find an English translation of the relevant passage online.

Here you go.

The word “grail” is derived through Old French from the Latin gradale (by degrees) and refers to a type of deep platter from which foods were served—course by course—at a medieval banquet. “Grail” is first recorded in English in 1330 with alternative spellings: greal, graal, and graile.

Well, that aside, if you're discussing whether Nasu uses the Grail as a womb metaphor, it doesn't ultimately matter whether other authors do, except for determining whether or not he came up with the idea.

For sure, but the point I was objecting to was the Grail mythos at large, not what Nasu intended.

[Nobody]

That there was never a route where Shirou teamed up with Shinji/the Matous. I don't really care how it would turn out or how it would work, but Shirou and Shinji's characters playing off each other is great and it's criminal we got so little of it in Stay Night.

[Tobias]

Optimus prime


Will appear too?!

[Iceblade44]

For all the weird fantasy shit, this is the single thing in FSN that strains my suspension of disbelief the most.

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Saber was deffo lying about being a virgin

Blame Merlin.

[Tobias]

It’s heavily implied she got a blowjob from guinivere at some point.

[Laserman]

Because the worms feed on the uterus, or they at least colonize the uterus. Something about the Grail only being hostable by females because of the whole chalice thing.

It's essential to the Grail mythos, the idea that the Grail, as a chalice, is a metaphor for a woman's womb and thus fertility. It's also why the Fisher King is injured you-know-where.

But is it a chalice? I'm failing to find an English translation of the relevant passage online.

Well, that aside, if you're discussing whether Nasu uses the Grail as a womb metaphor, it doesn't ultimately matter whether other authors do, except for determining whether or not he came up with the idea.---

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Okay, so in the English translation I found, it appears in lines 3222 to 3237. It's made of gold and decorated with jewels. It's not called a Holy Grail, although there definitely seems to be a religious undertone. To me, the bleeding lance reads more like a classic Christian miracle. Anyway, the grail is described as a dish. I looked at the Old French, but since I can't read Old French, I couldn't see whether there was anything there that would clarify whether it was a dish or a chalice.

So it's just for no reason then.

[Urameshi Yūsuke]

So it's just for no reason then.

The reason is to have an excuse to have several Sakura sex scenes every other day.

[SirGauoftheSquareTable]

Somebody's been reading a little too much Da Vinci's Code.

I did not get that idea from Dan Brown or any of his books.

[Skull]

I did not get that idea from Dan Brown or any of his books.

T'was only a jest.

[Alternative Ice]

Between am growing inside the grail and Kirei talking about how he has to 'bless what is born' I think there's a little bit of womb metaphor in there.

[Walnut Sparks]

For sure, but the point I was objecting to was the Grail mythos at large, not what Nasu intended.

Agreed on that point.