Things that annoy you in TM

[Zork Knight]

Didn't Caenis said (s)he was going to rape Anastasia in front of Kadoc?

[Magikewl]

Yeah that's why Anastasia calls him a disgusting vulgar man

[Byegod]

All efforts to find a 'point' at which things went downhill are misguided. All such determinations of specific 'points' will not stand up to scrutiny. The seeds of decline were present from the very beginning. What is essential is to see how they grew.

If you have recently experienced LB5 and thought 'wow, this is fucking retarded' - yes, exactly. Correct. But not sufficient. If, as left has drawn to attention, you were 'okay' with FGO up to this point, you must re-examine those experiences of being 'okay' with it. You will discover, if you're honest, that the fucking retardation was not a recent addition. The fucking retardation has been here from the beginning, and because it was fed, it grew and grew until - like mould, or cancer, or a yeast infection - it could no longer be ignored. The calls are coming from inside the house.

I'd agree with most of this even if your mostly shitposting, A lot of the current issues with TM have been around for a loooonnngg time.

It's just they have become more egregious over time till we reach this point where we get references instead of actual characters as servants or gods.

[Ratman]

- had persistently settled for his human frame, but now he finally reveal his other side as a god. It's usually impossible for Divine Spirits to be summoned as Heroic Spirits in Grand Classes, but as he was deeply involved in the human history and remained human as he became an ultimate god, he's a super-exception, summoned as Grand Lancer in the 5th Lostbelt after a multitude of miracles.

...That's not an exception, much less a super-exception. That's one positive out of test group of seven. That's a 14,28% chance of apotheosis for all we are shown. You're not making it cooler by calling it an exception, you're just making it more ridiculous. You can't simultaneously profit from the awe of standing out of line and the satisfaction of functioning within a previously established system, pick one. You can't have it both ways. You can't have your cake and eat it too in front of the reader's eyes while jacking off. stop

[Byegod]

...That's not an exception, much less a super-exception. That's one positive out of test group of seven. That's a 14,28% chance of apotheosis for all we are shown. You're not making it cooler by calling it an exception, you're just making it more ridiculous. You can't simultaneously profit from the awe of standing out of line and the satisfaction of functioning within a previously established system, pick one. You can't have it both ways. You can't have your cake and eat it too in front of the reader's eyes while jacking off. stop

Plus the fact the rule was barely hinted at + this is the first one to be apotheosis and it already breaks the rules.

Also can i just say i fucking hate skills that tell us nothing about what they do, this is in his mats and its getting worse over time for every writer.

[Twelveseal]

Laziness at its finest.

[Blastedspider]

...That's not an exception, much less a super-exception. That's one positive out of test group of seven.

There is no stated limit on the number of Grand Candidates though.

[Byegod]

There is no stated limit on the number of Grand Candidates though.

True, but there is the out of universe thing where they will prob not make more than one grand for certain classes due to lack of story relevance or 'what we have now is good enough' which I suspect will be for grand caster outside of MAYBE seimei

[Blastedspider]

Orion isn't exactly the most famous or prominent hero of Classical Mythology but still a Grand.

[asterism42]

Maybe, but his constellation is famous and well-known, no?

[the god of world-0]

Like, is there any mentions of a special belt Orion used, or that is entirely a reference to his constellation?

[Zork Knight]

I mean, there is one version of the legend where he got offed because he swore to hunt every last animal on Earth

Which I guess speaks to what what an absolute master hunter he was

[You]

Like, is there any mentions of a special belt Orion used, or that is entirely a reference to his constellation?

These chapters aint called lost belts for no reason.

[AAM1232]

Like, is there any mentions of a special belt Orion used, or that is entirely a reference to his constellation?

It's a reference to his constellation in real life (as the 3 stars there can be visualized as a belt), though in FGO his belt is a VDay's gift to us.

[Zork Knight]

I believe the question was if it had any special effects

I do believe it's just an asterism (not that one) and not some magical object Orion had in legend?

[asterism42]

Richard Hinckley Allen lists many folk names for the Belt of Orion. English ones include: Jacob's Rod or Jacob's Staff; Peter's Staff; the Golden Yard-arm; The L, or Ell; The Ell and Yard; the Yard-stick, and the Yard-wand; the Ellwand; Our Lady's Wand; the Magi / the Three Kings; the Three Marys; or simply the Three Stars.

The passage "Canst thou bind the sweet influences of Pleiades, or loose the bands of Orion?" is found in the Bible's Book of Job and Book of Amos. Tennyson's poem The Princess describes Orion's belt as:
...those three stars of the airy Giant's zone,
That glitter burnished by the frosty dark.


The three stars of the belt are known in Portugal and South America as Las Tres Marías in Spanish, and as "As Três Marias" in Portuguese. They also mark the northern night sky when the Sun is at its lowest point, and were a clear marker for ancient timekeeping. In the Philippines and Puerto Rico, they are called the Los Tres Reyes Magos. The stars start appearing in early January around the time of Epiphany, the Christian holiday commemorating the visit of the Magi to the Child Jesus.


In Finnish mythology, the Belt of Orion is called Väinämöisen vyö (Väinämöinen's Belt). The stars which appear to "hang" off the belt form an asterism called Kalevanmiekka (Kaleva's sword). In pre-Christian Scandinavia, the belt was known as Frigg's Distaff (Friggerock) or Freyja's distaff. Similarly Jacob's Staff and Peter's Staff were European biblical derived terms, as were the Three Magi, or the Three Kings. Väinämöinen's Scythe (Kalevala) and Kalevan Sword are terms from Finnish mythology.

It's just a fancy star pattern, tho people have ascribed it various importance and mythy things in various places around the world.

[forumghost]

The Galaxy is on Orion's Belt.

[Byegod]

This is less my own original opinion and more what I saw and I can't help but agree with.

Gilgamesh allegedly has such a strong ego all the worlds evil couldnt alter him yet his mentality bends like a reed in a river to the era he is summoned, that bothers me quite a bit

[Gabriulio]

That's just Nasu's way to retcon Gil's awfulness in vanilla FSN once he realized people liked the guy.

[Byegod]

That's just Nasu's way to retcon Gil's awfulness in vanilla FSN once he realized people liked the guy.

Yeah I know it's a post ad-hoc justification but it still makes no sense considering the state of the extra-verse itself.