Fate/Apocrypha Anime (no spoilers)

**Raylen Cypher** · January 6th, 2018, 02:06 AM

Originally Posted by GundamFSN

It can get you pregnant so

I forget which of the characters that the Tsundere Queen voiced said this line. Was it Aria, from Aria The Scarlet Ammo?

**SeiKeo** · January 6th, 2018, 02:07 AM

Originally Posted by Spinach

You have never known the Catholic pleasure of holding hands with whoever's in the pew beside you and praying together, my perfidious friend.

Did you break into her room and sniff her rosary?

**Spinach** · January 6th, 2018, 02:10 AM

I'll report you

**Wandering Swordwoman** · January 6th, 2018, 02:30 AM

Originally Posted by Spinach

Don't allow yourself to fall under the illusion that Higashide can expand the rules of or your understanding of universal Nasu mechanics, for he himself does not understand them either. Simply try to find meaning in whichever character is written to match the generic anime archetype of your choosing, maybe close your eyes and pretend that it's you that's holding Jeanne's hands and not Sieg like most people that enjoy Apocrypha do, and move on.

Sorry I don't want to be a blank newborn baby with only few expressions

**Aozaki-desu** · January 6th, 2018, 02:31 AM

To pour some more oil into the fire
teleporting people out of gardens looked really dumb

**You** · January 6th, 2018, 02:34 AM

Originally Posted by Zork Knight

They should've just repaired Fiore's Doc Oc arms.

In the novel's the ones that jack smashed were a training wheels pair she had in her room. Not the actual ones.
That's weird if the anime was different

**Keyne** · January 6th, 2018, 03:14 AM

All this talking about the Last Episode. Is it liked now? Do people like it now? I clearly remember people calling it unnecessary shit and Fate route fanboi pandering.
Now I see it defended because Apo did something similar.

**John D. Pliskin** · January 6th, 2018, 03:37 AM

Catching up on the thread. It's disheartening that there appears to remain no clear answer regarding the state of Jeanne's 'existence' with the epilogue. Even for those (like savepoints?) who read through the final volume, it's not clear?

Even if it'd mean a 're-connection' of Sieg's character with Jeanne, I honestly wouldn't mind something resembling this in the surely upcoming FGO Apocrypha event.

Originally Posted by Mcjon01

Obviously she went back right after and brought Sieg with her; look forward to 5* Sieg in season 2

Or at least show that the existence of Jeanne in GO wouldn't be in naked contradiction to her reuniting with Sieg (at least, her Apo self-- is her Apo self just like other summoned Servants in that she's ultimately a copy?).

Originally Posted by Altaris

I'm surprised not many people are fazed by how bullshit the explanation for Jeanne being able to meet Sieg again is

Originally Posted by Altaris

Originally Posted by Pendant

I'm a little hazy on how she got there in the first place.

Don't worry it's even dumber in LN Material so you better just not knowing

It's already been discussed using video game terminology, but... just to be sure, you're talking about this part, right?

Originally Posted by Apocrypha Material on Reverse Side of the World

Jeanne d’Arc is a Heroic Spirit who, from the start, lost her human body long ago. Because of that, the chances of her reaching the Reverse Side weren’t completely zero… However, that is merely the kind of “not zero” like, as a comparison, somehow managing to pass through a wall with the tunnel effect, but the Throne where Heroic Spirits Exist is cut off from the time axis, so she effectively had an infinite number of attempts to try.

(huh, the main wiki article actually does a better job of parsing that translation.)

Really curious if what the materials says is just a summary of what the novel says, or if it's actually the Materials that goes over Jeanne's circumstances in more detail.

---

All this Sieg/Jeanne discussion really wants to make me talk with this good twitter acquaintance who read the LN and actually LIKED Sieg, but didn't like how he was adapted for the anime. Maybe she'd offer new insight (to me) regarding Jeanne's circumstances while she was at it.

(Though as an aside, even as an anime-only, Sieg was generally fine for me. "Mary Sue" is used too liberally to describe him on him-- he's far from a 'perfect' specimen, and is arguably discarding his 'perfection' as a homunculus more and more as the series goes on.)

**Keyne** · January 6th, 2018, 04:17 AM

My view on this is that Jeanne decided to leave the Throne of Heroes. She used her true body to do it, rendering her unsummonable in that timeline.

**AmADo VII** · January 6th, 2018, 04:27 AM

it's funny to hear people saying after the last episode Jeanne left Sieg and went to FGO.

**Keyne** · January 6th, 2018, 04:31 AM

Originally Posted by AmADo VII

it's funny to hear people saying after the last episode Jeanne left Sieg and went to FGO.

I know it is.

**John D. Pliskin** · January 6th, 2018, 04:36 AM

Originally Posted by Keyne

My view on this is that Jeanne decided to leave the Throne of Heroes. She used her true body to do it, rendering her unsummonable in that timeline.

Her "true body"? As in, the one she had while she was alive (because the Materials state that her body was lost long ago), or do you just mean her whole 'being' as it exists on the Throne?

Either way, I'd be less inclined to stick with the Jeanne/Sieg ship if she were to devote 100% of her 'presence' to him. I have a lot of trouble reconciling Jeanne's sincere and selfless investment in the duties of a Heroic Spirit (one who helps safeguard Humanity) with a sudden willingness to completely abandon such duties, whatever the timeline. Maybe this is why the idea of her helping to bring Sieg into the Heroic Spirit business in an FGO Apocrypha event, even after a reunion, appeals to me; we'd have the best of both worlds that way.

Originally Posted by AmADo VII

it's funny to hear people saying after the last episode Jeanne left Sieg and went to FGO.

Heh, where was that from, reddit/MAL?

**AmADo VII** · January 6th, 2018, 04:48 AM

Originally Posted by John D. Pliskin

Heh, where was that from, reddit/MAL?

it's from anime viewers in Japan.

**Altaris** · January 6th, 2018, 04:56 AM

Originally Posted by Keyne

All this talking about the Last Episode. Is it liked now? Do people like it now? I clearly remember people calling it unnecessary shit and Fate route fanboi pandering.
Now I see it defended because Apo did something similar.

Who's defending Last Episode in this thread lol

**forumghost** · January 6th, 2018, 05:09 AM

Originally Posted by Altaris

Who's defending Last Episode in this thread lol

I mean, "Apoc did a shitter version of LE" is kinda a defence.

Y'know, in that now we can say "at least it's not as bad as Apocrypha's ending"

**Keyne** · January 6th, 2018, 05:11 AM

Yes, the one in the Throne, John.

**Altaris** · January 6th, 2018, 05:56 AM

Originally Posted by forumghost

I mean, "Apoc did a shitter version of LE" is kinda a defence.

Y'know, in that now we can say "at least it's not as bad as Apocrypha's ending"

Saying something is a shitty rip off of another is not defending the other thing

**hayate** · January 6th, 2018, 06:15 AM

Wow, I just realized...

Jeanne here is illustrated by Higa as a shotacon.

The heck, Higa's actually Shakespeare!

**Keyne** · January 6th, 2018, 06:49 AM

Originally Posted by hayate

Wow, I just realized...

Jeanne here is illustrated by Higa as a shotacon.

The heck, Higa's actually Shakespeare!

Motherly instinct is a thing!

**hayate** · January 6th, 2018, 07:27 AM

Originally Posted by Keyne

Motherly instinct is a thing!

Well, it can be that too, but then again...

A love confession is still a love confession.

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