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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirby View Post
    Someone remind me. Doesn't the Luck check make it so the spear only *technically* hits the heart, but it's not fatal because it's only a graze or something, or was that just fanon? Because even if the Luck check passes, they still get stabbed. It's just not fatal.
    Fanon because the spear didn't hit Saber's heart at all.

    Since Gil has the only relevant armor in the universe, Gae Bolg won't hurt him after he passes the check.
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    Gáe Bolg's fate twisting property is to always pierce the heart, not always kill the target.

    So if your Luck is high enough to interfere with destiny, it might miss the heart?

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    I just realized that Karna ruins my "only relevant armor" statement.

    Huh...his armor is fused with his skin so it doesn't count! Yeah.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Siriel View Post
    I just realized that Karna ruins my "only relevant armor" statement.

    Huh...his armor is fused with his skin so it doesn't count! Yeah.
    Sorry to burst your bubble but its only FUSED with his skin, not actually his skin.

    served

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    But that's literally what I said.
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    Yes, but its armor. and relevant. so it still ruins the statement.

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    No because it's armor fused with his skin so it's not something you can just equip/de-equip in the menu screen; you need plot events.

    Totally different.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Siriel View Post
    But that's literally what I said.
    I don't get it either.

    What is saying someone's wrong because that thing is that thing they claimed it to be?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mewarmo990 View Post
    Gáe Bolg's fate twisting property is to always pierce the heart, not always kill the target.
    ?
    Quote Originally Posted by side materials
    To put it into game terms, it would be an insane Noble Phantasm with a base damage plus an additional component that scaled with the target's HP.
    For example, if Saber's HP was 100, then Gae Bolg's damage would be (Spear Damage + 100). She would absolutely be dead if it hit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Siriel View Post
    No because it's armor fused with his skin so it's not something you can just equip/de-equip in the menu screen; you need plot events.

    Totally different.
    He could freely unequip it in CCC.

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    Mordred vs Lancelot. Assume he has access to guns.
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    there aren't enough gun emojis in the thousandfold trichiliocosm for this shit


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirby View Post
    Mordred vs Lancelot. Assume he has access to guns.
    Shittier Arthur vs the guy who dunked Arthur.

    Gee

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    Mordred remembers that she can beamu and tanks the bullets long enough to do that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by You View Post
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    There are lots of things attributed to Gae Bolg, like getting impaled inside out with thousands of barbs (which Nasu missed in F/SN but remembered later).

    But its core property - the causality-reversing "you are stabbed, therefore I thrust" is to always hit the heart. This doesn't change anything I said.

    High LCK = avoid fate twist heart punch

    Not the same as damage inflicted. I think the barbed death part is the "base damage + HP" component
    Last edited by mewarmo990; November 26th, 2014 at 03:30 PM.

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    And here Nasu equates getting stabbed in the heart as doing your entire HP bar.

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    I thought that was because spiritual cores are located in the heart and head, which is why those are super fatal?
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    Quote Originally Posted by You View Post
    And here Nasu equates getting stabbed in the heart as doing your entire HP bar.
    Wouldn't that like make Kirei immune to it?





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    Quote Originally Posted by Thedoctor View Post
    Wouldn't that like make Kirei immune to it?
    No his heart is a cluster of mud that is magical energy that's allowing him to live. Once that's gone he dies.

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    He still needs that heart to live, which was kinda why he was dying in HF (because Sakura destroyed his heart)
    Quote Originally Posted by Dullahan View Post
    there aren't enough gun emojis in the thousandfold trichiliocosm for this shit


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirby View Post
    I thought that was because spiritual cores are located in the heart and head, which is why those are super fatal?
    Even for a normal person that would be fatal... Cos you know, heart are important and whatnot...

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