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    For whatever reason, he chose not to use them.

    So idk. Ufo anime had him panting and bleeding from skeleton dudes alone so

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tobias View Post
    Come to think of it, didn't Medea beat kirei in UBW? When he had those command spells?

    ...then again so did fate shirou
    But that's Kotomine in his thirties, way past his prime. I'm surprised he can even get up from a chair without help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mcjon01 View Post
    Everybody always underestimates Kotomine, it's kind of his "thing"
    Sure, when he's older and a whole lot more manipulative. I can see her not underestimating Zero!Kotomine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpoonyViking View Post
    Sure, when he's older and a whole lot more manipulative. I can see her not underestimating Zero!Kotomine.
    Why? from her perspective there really isn't much of a difference between the two until he uses a CS.
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    Why are we assuming she is smug and acts victorious when she only went to him after getting Saber again?
    I mean, if you need to bring Saber to fight Kirei when he's "old", why would she underestimate him when she's alone fighting a more fit version?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tobias View Post
    Come to think of it, didn't Medea beat kirei in UBW? When he had those command spells?

    ...then again so did fate shirou
    He was also fine and walking around shortly after so, what exactly went down is questionable.

    Maybe he just shouted "I am defeated!" and pretended to have a heart attack.
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    I don't think the reason she waited until she had Saber was because of any fear of him personally. But it's been a while since I've read the VN, so take that with a grain of salt.
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    ...Actually, I think I'm going to reverse my stance: until she acquires more information on her enemies, Medea tends to underestimate them. She underestimated Archer and was outmaneuvered by him in her own Temple, she underestimated Saber's Magic Resistance and Kuzuki didn't die because of that only thanks to his fighting technique, and she underestimated Rin and got beat up; her best plans were only successful because she already had a good estimate of the strength of her targets. I don't know if Zero!Kotomine would be capable of pulling off the same trick Rin did (I do think she had a lot of "protagonist power" in that scene), but if it depended on Medea underestimating him, I think he could do it...

    ...But would he? Zero!Kotomine doesn't strike me as the type of fighter who relies on gambits. In his fight against Maiya and Irisviel, and later against Kiritsugu, he was a very in-your-face melee fighter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Siriel View Post
    He was also fine and walking around shortly after so, what exactly went down is questionable.

    Maybe he just shouted "I am defeated!" and pretended to have a heart attack.
    Maybe he made a skeleton dude wear his coat and Caster thought it was him?
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    Wasn't Saber basically paralyzed anyway? I doubt Medea needed her help or anything.

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    Medea even underestimated her very own Kuzuki! Chronic underestimator there.

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    I can see Medea underestimating the power of BAJI too
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mcjon01 View Post
    Medea even underestimated her very own Kuzuki!
    Yeah, which makes no sense. She had to have known what he was capable of; even if Reinforced by her magic, he was able to kill Rider in a sneak attack, for crying out loud!
    But never mind, I've ranted enough about that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpoonyViking View Post
    Yeah, which makes no sense. She had to have known what he was capable of; even if Reinforced by her magic, he was able to kill Rider in a sneak attack, for crying out loud!
    But never mind, I've ranted enough about that.
    Nobody's going to be impressed with taking down a trash 3* with a critical hit tho

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    He what now? I was under the impression kuzuki killed rider while she was unresisting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tobias View Post
    He what now? I was under the impression kuzuki killed rider while she was unresisting.
    He attacked Shinji and Rider blocked it.

    With her face.
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    It was not very effective

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ramen View Post
    He attacked Shinji and Rider blocked it.

    With her face.
    Who is "he"
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