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    Well it's also worth noting that Nasu himself didn't bother to think through all of HF. Apparantly in some cases when he had a rough idea of what happened in a scene, that's all he had, a rough idea. He just tended to arrange a cutaway so it wasn't obvious.

    like that time Nasu was asked what the hell happened with kuzuki and Nasu was like "lol I dunno, I figured zouken got caster to kill him or something. I mean a worm chest busting out of your master would be pretty scary right?"
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    That is like the one thing he does, everything else could be boiled down to either Sakura or True Assassin unless you count the time he killed Shirou in a bad end.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tobias View Post
    Well it's also worth noting that Nasu himself didn't bother to think through all of HF. Apparantly in some cases when he had a rough idea of what happened in a scene, that's all he had, a rough idea. He just tended to arrange a cutaway so it wasn't obvious.

    like that time Nasu was asked what the hell happened with kuzuki and Nasu was like "lol I dunno, I figured zouken got caster to kill him or something. I mean a worm chest busting out of your master would be pretty scary right?"
    I didn't pay any mind to it with just the VN either, but like I said above the way Zouken is treated in recent works seem to back up the notion than he was considerably better than what I thought after HF.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Siriel View Post
    I didn't pay any mind to it with just the VN either, but like I said above the way Zouken is treated in recent works seem to back up the notion than he was considerably better than what I thought after HF.
    Admittedly I'm not caught with some of the newer stuff like GO so that might be coloring my views on the matter.
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    Well even in the VN itself he working on his own drive one of the most dangerous servant master comboes into a corner.

    im not saying he would have won, but he certainly wasn't losing when shirou showed up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tobias View Post
    Well even in the VN itself he working on his own drive one of the most dangerous servant master comboes into a corner.

    im not saying he would have won, but he certainly wasn't losing when shirou showed up.
    Wasn't that entirely Saber, True Assassin, and the Shadow? I'm pretty sure Zouken was just standing around commenting on the battle.

    Which isn't really a great indicator of his own combat ability, unless I'm thinking of a different scene.
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    Lol, people really think Zouken killing Kojirou was anything but Kojirou jobbing to make Zouken seem threatening?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dartz View Post
    Lol, people really think Zouken killing Kojirou was anything but Kojirou jobbing to make Zouken seem threatening?
    Lol, people really think EMIYA killing Herc 6 times was anything but Herc jobbing to make EMIYA seem threatening?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tobias View Post
    Well even in the VN itself he working on his own drive one of the most dangerous servant master comboes into a corner.

    im not saying he would have won, but he certainly wasn't losing when shirou showed up.
    tbh I feel like that part is more concrete than the kojiro dying part.
    since he's like "welp I can't survive against two Servants" which would imply he believes he can survive against one.

    Though I think Ciel would win. However "win" is a very nebulous term in this VS.
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    I mean he did solo the Clock Tower. Also even Paracelsus and Babbage needed him to make their bitchin' dry ice machine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by You View Post
    Lol, people really think EMIYA killing Herc 6 times was anything but Herc jobbing to make EMIYA seem threatening?
    You could have found a better example. Don't think that counts since EMIYA died anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ramen View Post
    Wasn't that entirely Saber, True Assassin, and the Shadow? I'm pretty sure Zouken was just standing around commenting on the battle.

    Which isn't really a great indicator of his own combat ability, unless I'm thinking of a different scene.

    No, I was talking about when zouken faced off against rin and archer, and when shirou arrived he had them forced into a essentially a back to back defensive stance.

    Apparantly zouken up until that point did not think himself particularly threatened because he hadnt felt the need to break out his trump card of medea's shade.
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    Quote Originally Posted by You View Post
    Though I think Ciel would win. However "win" is a very nebulous term in this VS.
    That's about what I thought.

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    No, I was talking about when zouken faced off against rin and archer, and when shirou arrived he had them forced into a essentially a back to back defensive stance.

    Apparantly zouken up until that point did not think himself particularly threatened because he hadnt felt the need to break out his trump card of medea's shade.
    Archer and Rin weren't the first people I thought of when you said "one of the most dangerous servant master combos". Though I'd completely forgotten about that scene.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rafflesiac View Post
    I mean he did solo the Clock Tower. Also even Paracelsus and Babbage needed him to make their bitchin' dry ice machine.
    He solo'd the Clock Tower... with his Servants.
    Quote Originally Posted by FSF 5, Chapter 14: Gold and Lions I
    Dumas flashed a fearless grin at Flat and Jack as he rattled off odd turns of phrase.
    "And most importantly, it's me who'll be doing the cooking."
    Though abandoned, forgotten, and scorned as out-of-date dolls, they continue to carry out their mission, unchanged from the time they were designed.
    Machines do not lose their worth when a newer model appears.
    Their worth (life) ends when humans can no longer bear that purity.


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    Was the lancer part rather than assassin supposed to be intentionally dumb?



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    Assassin Kerry vs Dantes
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    there aren't enough gun emojis in the thousandfold trichiliocosm for this shit


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    didn't we do this already and then daitalianfish popped a vein or was that achilles vs dantes?
    Quote Originally Posted by FSF 5, Chapter 14: Gold and Lions I
    Dumas flashed a fearless grin at Flat and Jack as he rattled off odd turns of phrase.
    "And most importantly, it's me who'll be doing the cooking."
    Though abandoned, forgotten, and scorned as out-of-date dolls, they continue to carry out their mission, unchanged from the time they were designed.
    Machines do not lose their worth when a newer model appears.
    Their worth (life) ends when humans can no longer bear that purity.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirby View Post
    Assassin Kerry vs Dantes
    easy one for Dantes
    faster, stronger
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    more EDGE

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zenieth View Post
    Was the lancer part rather than assassin supposed to be intentionally dumb?
    given that he actually drops his spear and says "FITE ME BRO" in the story, it's pretty real.

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    Quote Originally Posted by You View Post
    didn't we do this already and then daitalianfish popped a vein or was that achilles vs dantes?
    I think it was first proposed but it was mostly just "who's edgier" and memes rather than a fight. I think?
    Quote Originally Posted by Dullahan View Post
    there aren't enough gun emojis in the thousandfold trichiliocosm for this shit


    Linger: Complete. August, 1995. I met him. A branch off Part 3. Mikiya keeps his promise to meet Azaka, and meets again with that mysterious girl he once found in the rain.
    Shinkai: Set in the Edo period. DHO-centric. As mysterious figures gather in the city, a young woman unearths the dark secrets of the Asakami family.
    The Dollkeeper: A Fate side-story. The memoirs of the last tuner of the Einzberns. A record of the end of a family.
    Overcount 2030: Extra x Notes. A girl with no memories is found by a nameless soldier, and wakes up to a world of war.

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