Badass Versus Thread

[Iceblade44]

Reminder that those servants are technically nerfed and they weren't supposed to be able to use NPs (like shadow servants) in the first place. So those attacks could've easily been the weakened version of the original.

Are they. I could be wrong from the translations but didn't Fafnir said that they are as strong as normal Servants but because there personalty is wiped they are just robots? They are definetly stronger then shadow Servants tho with us needing this plan to even deal with them, which Is different from how easly we dealt with Shadow Servants

[castor212]

i dont think Siegnir would survive the Vasavi Shakti in the beginning if that Vasavi Shakti was from full power Lancer Karna, dragon bod or no

[eddyak]

Using fire against a dragon+fire type?

Yeah, good luck with that.

[Lily Emilio]

It's lighting. Karna just loves to add fire to it.

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Are they. I could be wrong from the translations but didn't Fafnir said that they are as strong as normal Servants but because there personalty is wiped they are just robots? They are definetly stronger then shadow Servants tho with us needing this plan to even deal with them, which Is different from how easly we dealt with Shadow Servants

You do realize that I said they are supposed to not be able to use NPs like shadow servants, not that they are shadow servants right? They are imitations, not the real deal. If they originally can't use NPs, it means that they were already nerfed to begin with. Also Siegfried and Karna are not normal servants, if they are now just like normal servants then they are nerfed already. Also Fafnir didn't take a direct hit from VS, it only took out his wings which caused him to fall down.

[eddyak]

Damn. I must'va been thinking of the other one.

[Iceblade44]

It's lighting. Karna just loves to add fire to it.

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You do realize that I said they are supposed to not be able to use NPs like shadow servants, not that they are shadow servants right? They are imitations, not the real deal. If they originally can't use NPs, it means that they were already nerfed to begin with. Also Siegfried and Karna are not normal servants, if they are now just like normal servants then they are nerfed already. Also Fafnir didn't take a direct hit from VS, it only took out his wings which caused him to fall down.

I knew that Fafnir only took it in the wings, that's fine. I just don't think there needed. According to Fafnir they shouldn't havr NPs yes, but he has proven wrong in that showing that it's not what he originally thought. And also now that we know that these Servant's can be given more abilities like that Pseudo Divinity if they were nerfed they were buffed back.

[castor212]

i couldve sworn one of chiron's explanation includes how they are originally only reproduction of a Servant and so is weaker in the beginning before 10k repetition but i legit forgot the specific lol

maybe id recheck later

[Lily Emilio]

I knew that Fafnir only took it in the wings, that's fine. I just don't think there needed. According to Fafnir they shouldn't havr NPs yes, but he has proven wrong in that showing that it's not what he originally thought. And also now that we know that these Servant's can be given more abilities like that Pseudo Divinity if they were nerfed they were buffed back.

That doesn't mean the buff turned them back to the level of a sane servant. We knew someone interfered and buff them, but we don't know if it made them as strong as normal again or even stronger.

[Iceblade44]

That doesn't mean the buff turned them back to the level of a sane servant. We knew someone interfered and buff them, but we don't know if it made them as strong as normal again or even stronger.

When you say there not as strong as sane Servants I agree with you, but only that they are weaker because they have had there minds wiped. There stats should be still there or that's the impression I got

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i couldve sworn one of chiron's explanation includes how they are originally only reproduction of a Servant and so is weaker in the beginning before 10k repetition but i legit forgot the specific lol

maybe id recheck later

That makes sense yes, but the reason they mentioned that was because they are different from that long ago. After 10k reps they are stronger

[castor212]

yeah they are noted to becoming progressively stronger

i actualy scoured back and there isnt really anything definite that says in regards to their power level

tho personaly my impression is that theyre still somewhat weaker

[Nobody]

StrikerS era Nanoha vs Lion King

[Shiki]

ok Rance vs Medb

[eddyak]

Definitely Medb.

[Altaris]

Rance almost died from Suzume.

So yeah Medb with Servant's durability and sex mobile dungeon should break him.

[Shiki]

damn i never knew rance will be beaten on his game. poor him

[forumghost]

Medb vs Rance be like:

Medb "Oh, you think Hentai is your ally. You merely adopted the lewd; I was born in it."

[GundamFSN]

Don't monsters always have more power than heroes? I don't see how the guy that was killing monsters into his dotage is going to lose just because of that.

Surely his anecdote of ripping monsters' arm off would help him against an ogre who had her arm ripped off during life.

But now they are rocket.

Anyway, Saberlot vs Siegfried.

[8000]

Lancelot. Ardonight is dragon slaying and he should be more skilled.

[Iceblade44]

I don't know on that. While Arondights anti-dragon properties does make it that Siegfried can only subtract a B instead of B+, because the sword also got needed on being just an A Rank he could probably still survive through it. And while Lancelot is more skilled Siegfried ain't no slouch.

[Ordep]

Ereshkigal Vs Ozymandias

Both are extremely territorial, but I'm confused about which domain would prevail in the end.