Badass Versus Thread

[Reign]

St. George vs Siegfried? I feel like George would have the advantage with affinity, if I understand his NPs right.

[You]

yeah st george

[eddyak]

I don't think she has Gáe Bolg, though.

She was the one who made Gae Bolg, from the bones of some monster or another.

Hers are all the real deal.

There is no homing property. The animation are that way because it is supposed to be an AoE attack, like carpet bombing.

That's what I was saying.

No it doesn't. That's why Scathach has to stab you first to pin you into the air before she skewer you with the second hit. Its explicit that Cu's Gae Bolg has the heart-seeking ability that Scathach's GBA lack.

And before you said it's GB, not GBA. Scathach doesn't have GB

No, what she uses is GBA. It makes no sense that Cu's version is the original since she was the one who made the thing in the first place.

[Asunder]

How does armor of fanfir deal with anti-dragon attacks?

[You]

How does armor of fanfir deal with anti-dragon attacks?

p good actually
Siegfried keeps the flat B defense.
but doesn't get the additional defense boosts.

[Altaris]

She was the one who made Gae Bolg, from the bones of some monster or another.

Hers are all the real deal.


That's what I was saying.


No, what she uses is GBA. It makes no sense that Cu's version is the original since she was the one who made the thing in the first place.

No one said Cu's GB is original though ? Or am I missing something ?

The only thing people were saying was that the heart-stabbing technique was invented by Cu so that's why his Gae Bolg has that attribute once he becomes a HS. Scathach doesn't have it because she didn't invent it.

[Iceblade44]

She was the one who made Gae Bolg, from the bones of some monster or another.

Hers are all the real deal.


That's what I was saying.


No, what she uses is GBA. It makes no sense that Cu's version is the original since she was the one who made the thing in the first place.

Yes she has the original Gae Bolg, It's called Gae Bolg Alternive. An NPs =/= the spear. The spear does nothing by itself, it's just a cursed demonic spear, the NPs they use with it tho are techniques. and they are different from eachother

[Megas]

Basically, Gae Bolg (the spear) itself has no homing properties. It has the carpet bombing and heal-preventing properties.

The technique that Cu can do with the spear has the heart-seeking and reversal of cause and effect properties.

The technique that Scathach uses doesn't have either of those things, that's why Scathach has to pin the target in place with the first spear before using the second.

[eddyak]

No one said Cu's GB is original though ? Or am I missing something ?

Hers is called Gae Bolg Alternative. It wouldn't be the Alternative unless there was an original, and since she was the one who made the bloody things, she'd obviously have used the first version before the second.

The only thing people were saying was that the heart-stabbing technique was invented by Cu so that's why his Gae Bolg has that attribute once he becomes a HS. Scathach doesn't have it because she didn't invent it.

Yeah, he came up with the heartstab, not the toss.

[Megas]

I personally don't think the carpet bombing would beat vlad's stake spam, but I could see it going either way depending on the battle.

[Iceblade44]

Hers is called Gae Bolg Alternative. It wouldn't be the Alternative unless there was an original, and since she was the one who made the bloody things, she'd obviously have used the first version before the second.


Yeah, he came up with the heartstab, not the toss.

That's the thing tho, don't read to much in the name, it's only there to differentiate from Cu's. The description of GBA says that it is the older model, Cu uses a newer one then what she has.

[SpoonyViking]

Yes, she carved the spears out of the bones of a sea beast, but I thought the reverse causality attack was something Cú Chulainn created himself (to kill her, if I'm not mistaken)?

[eddyak]

Yes she has the original Gae Bolg, It's called Gae Bolg Alternive.

You do realise what you just said, right?

An NPs =/= the spear. The spear does nothing by itself, it's just a cursed demonic spear, the NPs they use with it tho are techniques. and they are different from eachother

The technique she uses is called Gae Bolg Alternative, and there can't be an alternative without an original.

I personally don't think the carpet bombing would beat vlad's stake spam, but I could see it going either way depending on the battle.

The stakes aren't magical in any way. They're literally just wooden stakes, and they're going up against the spear that would've drilled right through Rho Aius without a problem if Archer hadn't filled it with all of his remaining mana.

That's the thing tho, don't read to much in the name, it's only there to differentiate from Cu's. The description of GBA says that it is the older model, Cu uses a newer one then what she has.

I'm saying GBA is the name of the technique she uses, not the spear itself. She almost definitely can use the spear the original way, this technique's just another use of the spear.

[Reign]

How does armor of fanfir deal with anti-dragon attacks?

Does Ascalon still have that "if used offensively it can pierce any armor"? I think it was only mentioned in the mats that covered scrapped Apo characters, and not in GO mats.

[eddyak]

Yes, she carved the spears out of the bones of a sea beast, but I thought the reverse causality attack was something Cú Chulainn created himself (to kill her, if I'm not mistaken)?

Yes, the causality reversal is Cu's original thing, the thorns and unhealable are part of the spear.

[castor212]

So to be clear

Are we to assume that Sca has EXPLOSION-bolg in this oarticular discussion

[8000]

So to be clear

Are we to assume that Sca has EXPLOSION-bolg in this oarticular discussion

It's in her attack animations for Link so yeah.

[Megas]

So to be clear

Are we to assume that Sca has EXPLOSION-bolg in this oarticular discussion

I mean, she uses it in the FGO swimsuit version right?

I thought the carpet bomb was inherent to the spear.

I just think that it's not gonna be enough.

[Altaris]

She kinda do in her Assassin form. Idk what's the point of arguing this though, not like someone said she can't do the spear throw

[castor212]

im just reclarifying what Eddyak is pointing at because everybody saying GB is getting confusing at this point lol