Couldn't Chiron have moved first and then Achilles moved before the sound had time to reach him? Once you're dealing with characters who can move faster than sound these kind of assumptions seem rather dubious.Originally Posted by 8000
Couldn't Chiron have moved first and then Achilles moved before the sound had time to reach him? Once you're dealing with characters who can move faster than sound these kind of assumptions seem rather dubious.
Fionn and Cu are equally big there. That is you can probably find a good number of streets and bars named after them from what I once heard from an Irishman.
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There has been no mention of Fionn as a giant yet but there have been implications that he has a better class then the one he has.
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I don't think Fionn really sucks, he just unlucky that he has been given a big focus like the other Irish Lancers. Well that's what I think.
Nasu 3rd War when. Tho I know the answer, ha like were getting a new HOW VN before Tsuki....
"Only in my company, will you not be a monster"
anywhere than here
No, the combination is actually stated to give him precog.
Localizationing stuff
Oh yeah about Achilles super speed. I believe I once heard Castor said that mainly applies to his running and charging speed. If you keep him from jumping around it's not like it also applies to his weapon dexterity
"Only in my company, will you not be a monster"
anywhere than here
"Strongest" doesn't really have much meaning, tbh. Tristan can't take down a fortress, but Gawain & Arturia can't kill dozens of enemies by twitching his fingers. Lancelot's the most skilled, but anybody with a beamsword turns him to ashes on the breeze.
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Well technically Lancelot also has a beam sword, he just doesn't prefer to use it that way normally. It's still an option open to him
"Only in my company, will you not be a monster"
anywhere than here
i know, but not true precog, just "sort of, maybe" precog, i believe
What is 'true precog'
Though abandoned, forgotten, and scorned as out-of-date dolls, they continue to carry out their mission, unchanged from the time they were designed.
Machines do not lose their worth when a newer model appears.
Their worth (life) ends when humans can no longer bear that purity.
it is literally stated to only be a thing when he runs and using it leaves his heel open to attack, which wouldnt really happen if the NP could work just by boosting his dexterity
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king crimson's predictions
Then no one in the nasuverse has 'true precog'
Though abandoned, forgotten, and scorned as out-of-date dolls, they continue to carry out their mission, unchanged from the time they were designed.
Machines do not lose their worth when a newer model appears.
Their worth (life) ends when humans can no longer bear that purity.
What an easy example to simplify a discussion with, eh?
It just works, right?
ok then.
how about those guys that always say " i can see X seconds into the future"? would that be a better example?
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i would argue that divine spirits and solomon have it
but Revelation may be the closest thing in regards to direct combat usage, since it comes from a higher power
I still stand by my argument that Arondight's gotta have a weaker beam than the others. It already gives +1 to all stats, and it's the same rank as Excal & Galatine.
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As you can see here. What Chiron does through experience his 20/20 vision is still precog regardless of the jojo.– Ah, like a natural disaster aimed at one person in particular, that would be a kind of unforeseen bad luck, too. Precognition isn’t seeing the future. You can’t see what you can’t read.”
“…? Precognition isn’t seeing the future? But isn’t that what they’re doing?”
“Like I said, that is prediction at most. For example, let’s say there is someone who will be killed two days from now – Victim A – and someone who will kill him – Culprit B. With precognition, you would see the result of this case just by seeing these two aliases. Even though you wouldn’t know their faces, their names, and above all, their reasons.”
“The hell? If you can know even without a reason, then that’s not seeing the future. Isn’t that just instinct?”
Even I can do that, said Employee’s Friend A, and Aozaki Touko smiled bitterly at her.
“Don’t group others with the likes of you, Shiki. What you have is a sixth sense that can reel in the future just by hearing and imagining, whereas precognition has both foundation and proof.
Listen. Humans stand at the peak of the primates, a peak built upon their various cultures and bodies of knowledge. They have evolved not just in bodily functions, but also in the usage of the brain. But, evolution is the process of conforming to the shape of the environment. Functions which are useless or which would burden the act of survival are cut off. If there is a working substitute with a lower cost, then even an excellent function will be stoppered – that’s life. Precognition is nothing more than one of the ‘functions originally possessed by humans’ which had disappeared in the name of safety.
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Let’s go back to the example before.
Victim A and Culprit B; no matter who you look from, you would see the future of ‘being killed, killing’ with precognition. You would not see the image of the criminal, but you can read out the result even just from A. The is the result gained from reading A’s lifestyle patterns, even A’s unconscious perception of danger which is unknown to himself – but if a human is constantly processing this information, he would be crushed. Precognition is an unnecessary power now. Machines which can substitute it have already been invented, and continue to evolve day by day. Eventually, the day may come when we are overtaken by artificial intelligence capable of estimating the formless future.”
Though abandoned, forgotten, and scorned as out-of-date dolls, they continue to carry out their mission, unchanged from the time they were designed.
Machines do not lose their worth when a newer model appears.
Their worth (life) ends when humans can no longer bear that purity.
You'd think Chiron's "unexplained" movement might be due to it being Achilles and he'd know what he's likely to do anyway tbh
It's lower rank than Excal and Galatine as a beam.
It's just A rank.
Though abandoned, forgotten, and scorned as out-of-date dolls, they continue to carry out their mission, unchanged from the time they were designed.
Machines do not lose their worth when a newer model appears.
Their worth (life) ends when humans can no longer bear that purity.
I think if that were the intention the narration would've mentioned it.
Also the arrow still had to be fired. Unless Chiron is actually faster than his own arrows, there's way too small a window between loosing the arrow and Achilles rushing him to hop out of the way.
the arguement is the oldest argument in the nerd world
who shot first
Last edited by You; August 27th, 2018 at 03:08 PM.
Though abandoned, forgotten, and scorned as out-of-date dolls, they continue to carry out their mission, unchanged from the time they were designed.
Machines do not lose their worth when a newer model appears.
Their worth (life) ends when humans can no longer bear that purity.
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