Parashurama one + the jobber curse of Lancers
Originally Posted by FSF 5, Chapter 14: Gold and Lions IThough abandoned, forgotten, and scorned as out-of-date dolls, they continue to carry out their mission, unchanged from the time they were designed.
Machines do not lose their worth when a newer model appears.
Their worth (life) ends when humans can no longer bear that purity.
It was written down somewhere that Karna wouldnt be able to use Brahmastra against a foe who is stronger then him in a mat or somewhere. That is the Curse
"Only in my company, will you not be a monster"
anywhere than here
Karna takes it in pure skill, and he's got the firepower to come out ahead of Excalibur, but Artoria without Avalon (I don't remember, were we able to use Avalon in Extella Link?) was the Moon Cell's answer to all the big ol' monsters rumbling about. At one point the enemy has Iskander, Gil, Altera, Karna and a few other big honkin' powerhouses running about, and the Moon Cell's answer was to drop Artoria in the middle of it and then stand back smugly.
She's the underdog you really want to bet on.
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What's Karna got that can handle Excalibur?
i think his best option would be kundala to mitigate then still having his armor to deal with the rest. Kundala would lose to excalibur, but at least he wouldn't be hurt to bad. if he already had been suckered into using VS, or tried to counter excalibur with VS, he would probably end up in a pretty bad position.
K&K True Name Release can probably deal with Excalibur as well, considering it could hold off Godjuna's Maha Pralaya long enough to save Gudao and Shadow Border.
Originally Posted by FSF 5, Chapter 14: Gold and Lions IThough abandoned, forgotten, and scorned as out-of-date dolls, they continue to carry out their mission, unchanged from the time they were designed.
Machines do not lose their worth when a newer model appears.
Their worth (life) ends when humans can no longer bear that purity.
I don't think Karna can outmatch Saber on skill alone. Not only is she also top-tier in that regard, I imagine Instinct + Invisible Air would overcome the gap.
Also, when it comes to NP spamming, Rin!Saber or Avalon!Saber actually can use Excalibur at full power in quick succession.
I’m actually giving karna some significant respect in the form of assuming a much higher martial and magical assault over saber then I actually think he really warrants because in this case it really doesn’t matter. He doesn’t have a way around avalon.
ask the 85’ bears. Sometimes the defense wins the game
Assuming both have equal Master support I don't see either of them trumping over the other outside of Karna running out of juice since he's a bigger mana hog. 90% damage reduction is no joke but at the same time neither is Saber's regeneration speed with Avalon.
If Karna opted for VS then he'd be boned though.
Karna and Gawain melee'd for a bit in foxtail and there didn't seem to be any large skill gap. Apart from the A rank attack with B strength thing, does Karna have any other extreme skill feats?
Pretty sure he can do it in a normal HGW.
カルナ「見よ——
これこそが太陽神(スーリヤ)より与えられし、我が鎧と耳輪の輝き。
だが、知るがいい。
オレ自身が命の光輝と化したならば、この黄金はもはやオレを守るものではない。
それはただ——
オレという日輪が此処に在るというだけだ。
『日輪よ、具足となれ(カヴァーチャ&クンダーラ)』!
ガネーシャ「黄金の、鎧……。」
カルナ「っ——!!!」
ー
ラーマ「話に聞く防御型宝具の……強制励起か!
だが、しかし、それでもっ……!」Sounds like he can't come back from it though.Karna
"Behold the radiance of my armor and earrings given to me by"Suryathe Sun God
"However, know this! If I convert myself into life's brilliance, this gold shall no longer protect me."
"For - I, the sun, am already here."
"!"Kavacha and KundalaO'Sun, Become Armor
Ganesha
"The golden... armor"
Rama
"I've heard about this. That's a defensive noble phantasm's... forced activation! But, even so, that's not going to..."
Originally Posted by FSF 5, Chapter 14: Gold and Lions IThough abandoned, forgotten, and scorned as out-of-date dolls, they continue to carry out their mission, unchanged from the time they were designed.
Machines do not lose their worth when a newer model appears.
Their worth (life) ends when humans can no longer bear that purity.