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    Shuwen doesn't have a martial art specifically designed to trip up experienced fighters. Combine that with her Instinct, and we're probably gonna see a skewered Shuwen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ataraxia View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by eddyak View Post
    Shuwen doesn't have a martial art specifically designed to trip up experienced fighters. Combine that with her Instinct, and we're probably gonna see a skewered Shuwen.
    Considering a glancing blow is enough to take your servant down in extra, I dont see that happening

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zurvan View Post
    Considering a glancing blow is enough to take your servant down in extra, I dont see that happening
    All three Extra Servants are shitters.

    Emiya, low tier as Heroic Spirits go.
    Nero, who doesn't even have the basic requirements to be in the Saber class, but gets in because the Emperor says so.
    Tamamo, who by her own admission is flat-out the weakest Heroic Spirit.
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    I want to believe in old Li after what he did in LB3.

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    I still contend that EMIYA/Nameless is mid tier at least.
    But in Extra the servants were nerfed by Hakuno's botched summoning and I don't know how much strength was regained by the time they fought shuwen.

    Also surviving a glancing blow is in effect the Endurance stat in this case, given Mumei has C, Nero has D and Tamamo has E it seems they just didn't have enough HP.
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    You guys are overhyping Instinct waaay too much

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    Instinct is a plot device, it has no defined ruleset or measurable effect

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    Eh, it can somehow help against Tsubame Gaeshi but fails against Snake.
    So I guess her survival is based on if the luck check is passed and she manages to somehow see through Shuwen.

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    Well he is invisible so seeing through him should be easy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gray View Post
    I still contend that EMIYA/Nameless is mid tier at least.
    But in Extra the servants were nerfed by Hakuno's botched summoning and I don't know how much strength was regained by the time they fought shuwen.

    Also surviving a glancing blow is in effect the Endurance stat in this case, given Mumei has C, Nero has D and Tamamo has E it seems they just didn't have enough HP.
    Any proof Hakuno botched the summoning?

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    It's more about Hakuno being a weak Master (the weakest) than some problem during the summoning

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    Hmmm... On the one hand, Arturia's Instinct + Luck did save her from certain death against Gáe Bolg; on the other, that was in an open fight, and Li Shuwen's invisibility + one-hit kill combo seems like it would be too much for her to defend against.

    That said, wouldn't Li Shuwen want an open fight against her?

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    I think it depends on Shuwen's Master. If they're anything like Julius, I don't see him not using Invisibility to his advantage.
    If it's a fight between Servants without Masters' involvements, then him wanting an open fight is highly likely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zurvan View Post
    You guys are overhyping Instinct waaay too much
    It's fake Eye of the Mind, only better. It doesn't just warn her of danger, it guides her through dangerous situations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by eddyak View Post
    All three Extra Servants are shitters. Emiya, low tier as Heroic Spirits go
    This is provably false tho.

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    He's mid tier at best.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CO9p5JMGv!p9 View Post
    Instinct is a plot device, it has no defined ruleset or measurable effect
    While I agree with this. There is one measurable effect of instinct
    During battle one is able to always feel the optimal course.
    Visual and auditory obstacles are halved.
    Now the question is whether becoming one with the world is an obstacle that affects your sight or something else?
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    Instincts is basically the force. I’m actually joking less then usual on that. If you are trying to figure out if instincts can or can’t sense something, ask yourself whether or not you think it would work on a Jedi. Hell they both tend to get beaten in the same way, when instincts tips them off to danger but they make a mistake and believe themselves to be less in danger then they actually were
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