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    If I recall it correctly, it was something like "Herakles would never lose a battle, and Gilgamesh would always survive a battle, so Gilgamesh would end up losing the fight but living, while Herakles would win it but also die". Or something like that? I don't know, feels like I'm mixing them up.

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    gil pulls out a np that counters his own np
    would gil take gil seriously?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SirGauoftheSquareTable View Post
    I'm sure this has been done before, but Proto!Gil vs FSN!/normal!Gil.
    Proto gil has a worse GoB and a worse trump card. Also no Enkidu.

    Nasu had an interview where he said he made Gilgamesh stronger than the intended prototype to make him last boss material.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpoonyViking View Post
    If I recall it correctly, it was something like "Herakles would never lose a battle, and Gilgamesh would always survive a battle, so Gilgamesh would end up losing the fight but living, while Herakles would win it but also die". Or something like that? I don't know, feels like I'm mixing them up.

    pretty much. From that I always assumed that herackles would be sent on a mission to destroy gil’s phantasm and succeed, but be killed in the process or something like that.
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    The moment the opportunity arises for a pun, the one known as 'Taiga's Knight' will be there to deliver whether you like it or not.

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    Emiya vs Saber...Lily.

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    Archer can’t get saber out of his head as it is. To the point that she literally struck him down without him even thinking of defending himself.

    now put him against the even more pure version. I doubt he would even remember to project his swords
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    The moment the opportunity arises for a pun, the one known as 'Taiga's Knight' will be there to deliver whether you like it or not.

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    He bullies her until she cries and she shoots him in the dick.
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    canon finish apo vol 3

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpoonyViking View Post
    Oh, her nuke isn't Romantia, it's the Super Saiyan God Rune she almost uses in Fragments that apparently would have levelled Tokyo if Arthur hadn't killed her first.

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    Using it also comes at the cost of her destroying herself, it seems, which is why I said "nuke the both of them". She'd basically be forcing a draw, because I don't think Lu Bu can stop something like that.
    We knew that Romantia wasn't her nuke, but was it actually confirmed that the large-scale attack that was sealed for her amp was her final attack against Arthur?

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    I believe it was.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tobias View Post
    Archer can’t get saber out of his head as it is. To the point that she literally struck him down without him even thinking of defending himself.

    now put him against the even more pure version. I doubt he would even remember to project his swords
    Unlike OG Saber, Lily is too pure to cut someone down while they're having their Flashback though.

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    Surt=Sigurd VS Xian Yu

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    With the current event in FGO and the scrapped Servants getting bonuses, I've been thinking about what could have changed if they were in the novel. Specifically the first battle between teams. I tried to distribute the Servants in a "fair" way that wouldn't change the premise immediately.

    Black Faction Red Faction
    Siegfried Mordred
    David (Chiron) Atalante
    Vlad Benkei (Karna)
    George (Astolfo) Achilles
    Avicebron Shakespeare
    Jack Semiramis
    Fran Kintoki (Spartacus)

    Red's lineup is hurt a lot by losing Karna, but they get a Berserker that's willing to work with them (at first) and their lineup was much better than Black's to begin with.
    Black loses power in long distance fights (I don't think David is as good with his bow) but they do get a instakill weapon and possible NP seal. George is a stronger than Astolfo but still relies heavily on his Noble Phantasms.

    Most importantly, character dynamics are going to change a lot. I think the first question would be who is sent to kill Jeanne? Does Amakusa even send anyone?
    I'm willing to bet he doesn't, so that's one less fight there. Kintoki also probably doesn't go straight into Yggdimillenia territory.
    Those are my suppositions:

    George vs Siegfried: George would also save Sieg, but he can actually fight against Siegfried. Would Siegfried still be convinced to sacrifice himself, or would the fight end before that?
    That's key to how things would develop, because in the actual battle...

    Amakusa doesn't have Karna to send against Vlad, does he send Achilles and Atalante?
    Kintoki is probably going to be sent into the battle, right?
    Amakusa still goes out and meets Fran, I see no reason that would change.

    What are the thoughts on this?

    I just realized after looking at the size of this post that this is way more stuff than anyone is going to bother with lol

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    I can see Kintoki being a defector and going free agent like Spartacus.

    George was cut because being a big deal Saint meant he would have words with Jeanne and Amakusa over the main conflict, so he's gonna be front and center.

    I feel bad for Fiore since she's stuck with David. I'm not really sure what fake Benkei has to offer for story or battle, he's honestly the most superfluous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LJ3 View Post
    I can see Kintoki being a defector and going free agent like Spartacus.

    George was cut because being a big deal Saint meant he would have words with Jeanne and Amakusa over the main conflict, so he's gonna be front and center.

    I feel bad for Fiore since she's stuck with David. I'm not really sure what fake Benkei has to offer for story or battle, he's honestly the most superfluous.
    I think that's sure to happen when he realizes what Amakusa did to the Masters, but I don't think he would do it immediately, which means there'd be no initial confrontation before the big battle.

    Yeah, George is sure to play a main role and it really is hard to think of any way in which Benkei would be relevant.

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    Pretty sure with that set up everyone in Team Red gets to stay home and play board games while Achilles runs rampant and laughs in the face of the Black Faction's no divinity.

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    David has Divinity, but only at rank D so they're still fairly screwed.

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    It'd take a lot of teamwork and luck for that Team Black to down Achilles.

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    Come to think of it, I can think of few pairings more dysfunctional than Celewdnike and George.
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    I'm pretty sure George has Divinity too

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    Yup, Divinity C.
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    So
    Ark of the Covenant vs. Achilles

    Also... Avicebron and King David in the same team... hmmmmmm

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    As busted as Achilles is, I think they can beat him if they coordinate well enough.

    With a team of Siegfried, George and David, for example. They have George's Divinity and Achilles is both careless with his true name and imprudent enough to be baited into the Ark. Also, couldn't Hamesh Avanim get rid of his invincibility?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rafflesiac View Post
    Come to think of it, I can think of few pairings more dysfunctional than Celewdnike and George.
    At least he's probably not getting assaulted by her!
    I can see him becoming friends with Fiore though, shooing David away.
    I kinda get Chiron vibes from him but I think it's just the hair.

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