Achilles might not have a nuke of his own but he sure could kick every other Servant's ass in a 1v1.Originally Posted by Ronove
Achilles might not have a nuke of his own but he sure could kick every other Servant's ass in a 1v1.
Sure, but that's not the problem. It's a matchup issue. Karna was going to start the fight by unleashing his NP to OHKO Jeanne before she could use command seals. Achilles doesn't have that and a prolonged fight is extremely risky.
Well, either way, assuming Amakusa doesn't try to get rid of Jeanne bc no Karna, I guess not much changes. What was next? Achilles, Atalanta and Kintoki in the woods?
Update: I found Wikipedia. So after the battle, according to anime, Sieg escapes and is found by... Saint George. Hm.
Last edited by Zork Knight; April 28th, 2020 at 02:02 AM.
- Sieg is saved.
- Mordred kills some golems.
- Spartacus goes nuts. Achilles & Atalante vs Siegfried & Fran (& Chiron support)
- Siegfried dies for Sieg.
The first two probably happen as usual. Kintoki is not that crazy so the initial fight doesn't happen.
Though that also probably means George doesn't try to bail out Sieg that night so he might not get a chance to leave until the battle, which would mean he doesn't get Siegfried's heart and becomes a non-factor for the story (except for maybe freeing the homunculi as usual).
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So now Team Black gets to keep Siegfried... Wait, who would George take Sieg to for help without Chiron? David's Harp of Healing is for the mind, not the body...
I'd guess Sieg goes back into being Adam's core. It's only really George that might find him, and the other Servants there aren't great at being doctors.
Did Sieg actually need treatment from Chiron to survive? I don't remember that.
I thought Astolfo went to Chiron just to hide Sieg, he couldn't use his own room because Celenike went in unannounced all the time.
I mean, according to Wikipedia's summary, Chiron heals Sieg and tells him he only has three years to live.
Also... Didn't Achilles and Atalanta only get sent to the Castle because Spartacus was going there anyway? Wouldn't this also skip that battle?
Apparently there's always the option of ripping out your own heart to save a rando...
Last edited by Zork Knight; April 28th, 2020 at 02:35 AM.
Yeah that's what I said.
Essentially, no Servants meet until the actual team battle.
Should this be it's own thread?
His shield likely more than qualifies for all intents and purposes.
An A-Rank Anti-Army NP isn't really tangible? Ok, then.
I wonder what role could the Ark play in this scenario?
Unless David can pick it up and throw it at people, I doubt it would, to be honest.
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The Black Team would probably have Adam by this point, wouldn't it?
A Noble Phantasm that can insta-kill anyone regardless of protection is hardly something that should be ignored, even if it is unwieldy. Black Side could definitely come up with some work around. Perhaps they could make a litter and utilize golems to move it.
I mean good luck getting people to touch it though. Why would Red Team do that? They have the option of chilling in the Gardens.
use the ark as adam's core
adam doesn't need to touch it, just float it with magnets in a chamber inside him
...Considering Avicebron uses Asterios Alter's labyrinth as raw material for Adam in Lostbelt 1, could he maybe use the Ark, too? Not for the whole body, of course, but maybe as part of its hand or something?
Giant Ark flail for Adam.
It begs the question of if golems touching the Ark would get vaporized or not. My instinct is to say yes they would, but perhaps not? And then Avicebron could make some sort of golem transport for it?
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