Arcueid is technically above every existence on the earth.
if Gaia thinks Beasts and LB kings are the threat they will supply Arc with power enough to defeat them.
Arcueid is technically above every existence on the earth.
if Gaia thinks Beasts and LB kings are the threat they will supply Arc with power enough to defeat them.
But doesn't backup from the planet only cover raw power? Does it account for conceptual hax too? Not sure about the remake but for original Arc there's a statement somewhere she'd have trouble against Gil since planet backup would only match his strength and not all his weapons.Originally Posted by AmADo VII
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Like Arc may have planetary backup but curse-filled zombie Cernunnos was about to become a planet-destroying black hole.
Wasn't there a statement that Goetia's Ring of Light made of burnt human history exceeded the Planet's energy
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She's probably also helpless against the Insect of the Abyss and can't force an exit like Melusine could.
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But doesn't backup from the planet only cover raw power? Does it account for conceptual hax too? Not sure about the remake but for original Arc there's a statement somewhere she'd have trouble against Gil since planet backup would only match his strength and not all his weapons.
Gil's power is less in conceptual abilities and more just the sheer overwhelming variety and bullshit that's essentially "Yeah I basically have everything." It's hard to sort of represent his power in a normal power or backup way.For example, in cases where even if the guy's stats are about the same as Arc, he has a ridiculously large number of weapons with high versatility. As the amount Arc is allowed to take out is based on "single entity ability", against types like Gil-sama, well, you see?
You can certainly say that mana bursting, being a dragon and Excalibur are the power of Artoria but it's hard to gauge Gil because his power isn't raw power or something tied to him but just hey I'm going to pull out a hundred anti-moon, anti-earth and anti-elemental weapons, and various things from Japan and South America because that's the only stuff you don't resist. I'll also take out all these healing potions and shields and guard your attacks and so on.
When it comes to say Goetia's Spirit Bomb, or Tiamat having her stats and abilities it'd be something that Arc trumps in terms of ranking and also scale, while also being something that the planet takes into account.
But Tiamat literally has all of Arcueid's abilities, but better, and she has some if the authority of the Earth Mother.
Setting aside the power level discussion for a bit, that's just wrong.
The only abilities they have in common are the Self-Modification (and even then it's by different methods) and the lack of a concept of death.
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It might be the anime version of Nega-Genesis, but it's been a while since I watched it.
She doesn't have one at all, nor did the anime suggest as such.
Ah, I see. Still, I think she could easily overpower Arcueid.
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In terms of systems and rankings and concepts its like the Shadow/Grail versus servants born of it.
In terms of power normal Arc just scales up to Tiamat and beats her up.
If its max power Arc she just beats Tiamat up.
Somehow I don't believe she could scale up that much, and besides, Tiamat has no concept of death so long as one being is alive, and Arc only lacks death under the full moon.
Slight correction, but Tiamat has no Concept of Death AS WELL AS the fact she can't die along as long as any other living being is alive.
Zepia didn't have a concept of death either, till Arc activated cheat mode and Splatooned the moon. I wouldn't put it past the Earth's terminal to be able to cancel an Earth Goddess's, uh, Earth-related abilities.
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Didn't Tiamat come from space?
Because you are too young. Or too stupid. Or both.
Not at all.
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