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    The problem is that she doesn't really have anything she can do against him if Emiya ends up doing actual archery.

    Except maybe try to approach him with the help of her flag friends and speed. But that's likely to not end so well for her the moment Hrunting comes into play.

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    She knows Shukuchi, though. That should help immensely with closing the distance before he manages to snipe her.
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    Honestly there isn't much detail on her flag friends such as how strong they are or what they can do or anything like that with Iskandar.
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    tfw when not even in badass versus scathach is saved from the assumption from jobbing anymore


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    Quote Originally Posted by SpoonyViking View Post
    She knows Shukuchi, though. That should help immensely with closing the distance before he manages to snipe her.
    Shikuchi is nice but I don't think it's going to be nearly enough against an Archer kilometers away with clairvoyance. It isn't like she has the raw strength, defense or energy of Artoria. All in all Okita isn't high specs and is very limited outside of her niche of fighting someone in a swordfight.

    I don't think she does well against an Archer at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Menwearpink View Post
    Shikuchi is nice but I don't think it's going to be nearly enough against an Archer kilometers away with clairvoyance. It isn't like she has the raw strength, defense or energy of Artoria. All in all Okita isn't high specs and is very limited outside of her niche of fighting someone in a swordfight.

    I don't think she does well against an Archer at all.
    Why does Archer get to start out kilometers away, though?

    Also, Shukuchi literally means shrinking ground, so if it's good for anything it should be covering large distances quickly.

    Not saying Okita is high tier, but she should at least be able to hang with Emiya, more or less.
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    BP sniping aint great for her I think

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deathhappens View Post
    Why does Archer get to start out kilometers away, though?

    Also, Shukuchi literally means shrinking ground, so if it's good for anything it should be covering large distances quickly.

    Not saying Okita is high tier, but she should at least be able to hang with Emiya, more or less.
    It's basically the stuff Kotomine does to surprise Kirei with martial arts techniques to punch him in the heart rather than now you seem me, now I'm the other side of the city like Achilles.

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    Let's be honest- when does Archer do the smart thing and snipe someone?

    She's ridiculously fast, but is she faster than Cu? I feel like she's not as playful as Cu is when it comes to actual fighting, she probably won't get lost in the thrill of the fight like Cu did in UBW, the fight will go one of two ways- Emiya will find she's learnt from his leave-false-openings tactic and suddenly have his throat cut when she goes for the not-so-false opening, or she won't be quite fast enough to overpower him, and he'll just outlast her and stab her once she falters or coughs blood.

    I'm gonna go with the Shinsengumi's strongest over Emiya.
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    This is pretty straight-forward

    If Archer actually acts like one and snipes with BP, Okita has no way to defend against that.

    Melee, Okita wins and the funniest outcome is when the Shinsengumi gank squad just straight up murders Emiya.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eddyak View Post

    She's ridiculously fast, but is she faster than Cu?
    In terms of instantaneous gap closing I would bet on Okita
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    Quote Originally Posted by eddyak View Post
    Let's be honest- when does Archer do the smart thing and snipe someone?
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    In a straight fight I'd say that KH doesn't have much of an advantage against Scathach.

    But he'd win because Scathach is meant to always lose.

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    By lore, Scathach because she has so much bullshit, and is totally top tier you guys! - Nasu

    By actually what happens? She probably KOs herself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Historia View Post
    Scathach vs King Hassan
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    Serious answer, though: I asked this back when I was doing research for the fic, and general consensus at the time is that King Hassan would take it. Personally, I don't think we've seen enough of him after he gave up the Grand title and whatever power or abilities that gave him to know - for instance, would his regular Servant self be capable of possibly defeating sun-powered Gawain in close combat? -, but my gut feeling is that he should have a huge advantage if the fight starts with a sneak attack, but Scáthach would probably have an edge in direct combat because of Gate of Skye and her magical abilities in general.
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    I actually thought of your fic the minute I read this matchup. By the way, good job Spoony.
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    tfw when not even in badass versus scathach is saved from the assumption from jobbing anymore
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    I actually give this to her, unless we have more info on KH's other NP.
    Because as a regular Servant, he's impressive for an assassin, but doesn't really have anything for GB Alt or various other Scathy nonsense

    but yeah jobbing has basically been her sole role

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