Herc is pretty much meant to be a cheat if Gil wasn't around. It's tough to find other examples tbh, since after FSN, no HGW follows standard seven classes battle royale format.
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Except maybe Fragments. In that case, Ozy might be close.
I did briefly consider Herc, but then I remembered that he goes down in the Fate route before we even learn that Gilgamesh is a guy.
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6 servants is a ridiculous amount. There likely isn’t a single regular servant that could achieve that.
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To not clustering the Samurai Remnant thread, i'll bring the scenario of Takeru and Ushi-Gozen on Apocrypha setting
So instead of Astolfo, what will happen if Black Faction summoned Ushi-Gozen? How far she can go against the servants of Red Faction? (Considering a scenario where her armor broke and all of the faction teamed up against Ushi-Gozen isn't enough for me as that made her a sudden raid-boss lel)
Bonus: Instead of Siegfried and Astolfo, Takeru and Ushi-Gozen teamed up on Black Faction against the Red Faction
To expand more of my previous answer on FSR thread, Ushi-Gozen will be seen as formidable samurai to others, but still fall short to the demigods like Achilles and Karna. By herself without Takeru, armored Ushi will be more loyal to her Master, and won't help Sieg escape just because, so Black Faction still keeps Siegfried. Achilles might note how her attacks can harm him, and suspect her possessing Divinity.
As I said earlier, she's loyal as long as her armor's intact. But once her armor breaks, she becomes unpredictable, so both factions will have to team up against her and Ox-king instead of Dracula.
If Takeru's around, he's more flexible than Siegfried, and Gordes doesn't have to worry about glaring weaknesses. So it's more firepower for Black faction, at the risk of the Rider going berserk.
The way i see it, Ushi-Gozen can easily killed Atalanta, Semiramis, and Spartacus, Mordred could hold her own but ultimately outclassed hard, Shakesphare might going to play a mind trick via his NP against Ushi-Gozen but knowing her nature, this will backfired to him so badly, worse if she decided to put off her armor because of it
Karna vs Ushi-Gozen is an another interesting fight as he might noticed the divinity on her being similar to Arjuna
As for when she unleashing Ox King, i think VS will seal the deal but at cost of Karna being depowered, which lead to Black Faction have the upper advantage, even moreso with Takeru being summoned instead of Siegfried, which lead to Takeru vs Achilles
Man, this show that Black Faction were lacking in very powerful firepower, Vlad and Siegfried are powerful but still below to what Red Faction have with Karna and Achilles, changing either one or two Black Faction servants with a better servants is surely change the tides
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Still about Samurai Remnant servant, changing Loli Jack to Koga will likely gave them a huge advantage as well too
Yeah, the odds are stacked against Black Faction too much. And they were supposed to be the threat at first. If Amakusa didn't hijack Red Faction's Masters, MA would've won handily.
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About Jack, I kinda disagree. Three out of seven Servants of Red are females. Her niche would be more useful there instead of summoning snakes and Orochis, especially with Semiramis, she could potentially kill her in her own Garden handily.
Exactly, but most importantly it was for Sieg development as well hence why Black Faction was a bit inferior lel
Another one but now it's about FGO, instead of Astolfo......what will happen if Black Faction summoned Odysseus?
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Nvm you were already answered my thought about Koga replacing Loli Jack spot so i'm just gonna edited (read: deleted) my following comment about Koga lel
He can be the chief strategist for Black Faction. He'll probably help in logistic and morale while fighting in the backline. Troia Ippos, though, can help Black Faction defending the Greater Grail from Hanging Garden.
Additionally, both factions will be dumbfounded by it, and Caules will be fanboying all over his NP, so Fran gets jealous.
Imagine Odysseus outsmarted not only the enemy faction but also your own faction, that will be hilarious
Tho he might going to targetting Achilles for personal reason since they were in the same side and a friends back in Trojan War, i wonder what kind of fight scenario will occured between him and Achilles
Now thinking again, i think Takeru + Odysseus combination is very good if you ask me
I'll talk more about Apocrypha setting with different servants but for now i'll move to the different HGW with Takeru and Ushi-Gozen on it
Takeru on 4th HGW instead of Artoria and Ushi-Gozen on 5th HGW instead of Medusa, what will happen?
4th HGW Takeru: That would be godsent to Kiritsugu. He's very flexible and not bound by chivalric code. Kerry would be much freer in making a plan.
5th HGW Ushi-Gozen: She's as ruthless as Medusa when it comes to a fight, and might be more intense in battle, with the only possible threats are Cu, Herc, and of course Gil. Although, maybe her mana upkeep would be too much for Shinji to handle, and she has no Blood Fort Andromeda to alleviate it. So she will have to return to Sakura.
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Yeah i think Takeru will whoop the floor of 4th HGW with the only one who can stop him is none other than Gil
And honestly that would a very interesting fight, we already seen Takeru fought Gil in the game but Gil didn't take the fight serious at all there, imagine Gil being so serious against Takeru after learned his true nature and the clash of Ea vs Amenomurakumo-no-Tsurugi as until this days, we never seen what will happen if Anti-World NP clashed with Anti-World NP
I also figured out that while she's loyal as long she's keep restrained on her armor, she's likely refused to have a partner like Shinji and might killed him off the bat5th HGW Ushi-Gozen: She's as ruthless as Medusa when it comes to a fight, and might be more intense in battle, with the only possible threats are Cu, Herc, and of course Gil. Although, maybe her mana upkeep would be too much for Shinji to handle, and she has no Blood Fort Andromeda to alleviate it. So she will have to return to Sakura.
As for her against Herc, Cu, and Gil, the way i see it: She might able to defeated Cu in tough fight, as for Herc i think Dojigiri Yasutsuna and Kyogoku wouldn't be enough to depleted his lives so she might call out the Ox-King to fully defeated him, now for Gil tho she's lose but not without giving him a hard time, and with her divine nature and her combat prowness she's will get a very good respect on Gil, and by that time Ushi-Gozen went berserk he'll likely Enkidu'd + Ea'd her at the same time
Back to Apocrypha setting, this time for their archers, instead of Chiron and Atalanta, what will happen if:
- Black Faction summoned Tesla
- Red Faction summoned Tametomo
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