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    If Rin had the means of stopping her movement, then yeah, a Jewel beam is gonna hurt.

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    Rin was able to kungfu the sh*t out of Medea in UBW though... even with "E" parameter in strength, it is still FAR better than an athlete right? Also, Medea has C rank agility stat...
    So, maybe Rin has a chance?

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    Yeah but Medea's a nerd and Ciel benches.
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    Rin has enough fire power.

    The issue is that Rin is just a mage with some combat talent.
    Ciel is literally a mage killer and monster hunter.

    Poor compatibility.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Best Girl View Post
    Ciel is literally a mage killer and monster hunter.
    Now I'm back to imagining TM characters as protagonists in Monster Hunter games

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    You cannot tell me Ciel's weapons in Remake are not straight out of Monster Hunter

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tepanyakigo View Post
    Rin was able to kungfu the sh*t out of Medea in UBW though... even with "E" parameter in strength, it is still FAR better than an athlete right? Also, Medea has C rank agility stat...
    So, maybe Rin has a chance?
    I mean, Medea could probably bitch slap Rin with the force of a sumo slap, sure. But she's a princess of Colchis and a witch who has relied on her magic her entire life. She has zero combat experience, and that's what Rin was counting on- surprising her just long enough with the switch from magecraft duel to pure martial arts to get those hits in before she could react .

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    Rin has enough fire power.

    The issue is that Rin is just a mage with some combat talent.
    Ciel is literally a mage killer and monster hunter.

    Poor compatibility.
    Pretty much this. Not only is Ciel significantly higher specc'ed, she also has tons more quantifiable combat experience.

    Just look at how Bazzett in Prillya dismantled Rin, Luvia AND Miyu before she ever had to use Fragarach. Now consider Ciel is significantly faster and stronger.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deathhappens View Post
    I mean, Medea could probably bitch slap Rin with the force of a sumo slap, sure. But she's a princess of Colchis and a witch who has relied on her magic her entire life. She has zero combat experience, and that's what Rin was counting on- surprising her just long enough with the switch from magecraft duel to pure martial arts to get those hits in before she could react .

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    Pretty much this. Not only is Ciel significantly higher specc'ed, she also has tons more quantifiable combat experience.

    Just look at how Bazzett in Prillya dismantled Rin, Luvia AND Miyu before she ever had to use Fragarach. Now consider Ciel is significantly faster and stronger.
    To be fair, Bazett is a monster... she managed to kill saber in FHA. Yes, it was due to the nature of Fragarach... but still...

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    Are…we using prillya for power levels now
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    Didn't Rin in Case Files think she could stand up to a servant tier opponent to some extent if she had the jeweled sword?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clown View Post
    Didn't Rin in Case Files think she could stand up to a servant tier opponent to some extent if she had the jeweled sword?
    It probably needs a lot of things to align perfectly... like how UBW!Shirou zasshu-ed the sh*t out of KingPika or that time when Kirei "defeated" True Assassin in HF.

    It's not that farfetched though... I mean even Kuzuki technically beat Saber and Rider as well ( with the help of Medea).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clown View Post
    Didn't Rin in Case Files think she could stand up to a servant tier opponent to some extent if she had the jeweled sword?
    It is not fire power that is lacking. It is compatibility.

    It's like comparing Kiritsugu and Kayneth.
    Kayneth just straight up dies not because he is lacking fire power, but rather because Mage Slayer > Mage.

    Ciel vs. Rin will be similar.
    Ciel is not gonna fight Rin in a beamu fight, because you would want to avoid what mages are good at.
    She will just shoot Rin in the back with a reinforced machine gun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kubera View Post
    Now I'm back to imagining TM characters as protagonists in Monster Hunter games
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    You cannot tell me Ciel's weapons in Remake are not straight out of Monster Hunter
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tepanyakigo View Post
    Rin was able to kungfu the sh*t out of Medea in UBW though... even with "E" parameter in strength, it is still FAR better than an athlete right? Also, Medea has C rank agility stat...
    So, maybe Rin has a chance?
    No.

    That's one of the things that doesn't really carry over. Medea canonically has trouble carrying shopping. Her E, if E even really stands for ultra giga athlete, just sits at E because E is as low as the scale goes. Or maybe her E rating in Str is her rating after she's magically buffed her strength.
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    Medea has trouble carrying shoping? Isnt the FHA scene Shirou asking for a bag and its almost to heavy for him?

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    So I must actually be crazy because if there is a scene somewhere in extella that talks about why the mooncell chose saber I can’t find it.

    maybe it is in extella materials but I don’t think there was anything about her particularly in there, just Excalibur wank about how the sword could do things gods couldnt.

    which is awesome but wasn’t what I was looking for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tobias View Post
    So I must actually be crazy because if there is a scene somewhere in extella that talks about why the mooncell chose saber I can’t find it.
    She was chosen as the trump card to slay Sefar, due to the holy sword's history with her.

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    For what it's worth, I do remember somewhere in Extella saying that Saber was picked by the Moon Cell because she's a Top Servant. I don't remember if anything else was elaborated, though - but it fits the original novel's proposition that King Arthur would naturally be one of the strongest Sabers ever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Best Girl View Post
    It is not fire power that is lacking. It is compatibility.

    It's like comparing Kiritsugu and Kayneth.
    Kayneth just straight up dies not because he is lacking fire power, but rather because Mage Slayer > Mage.

    Ciel vs. Rin will be similar.
    Ciel is not gonna fight Rin in a beamu fight, because you would want to avoid what mages are good at.
    She will just shoot Rin in the back with a reinforced machine gun.
    Okay... this is a serious question... not a sarcastic one...

    Does The Church even allow the use of "modern" weaponry?

    Ciel in Remake is excluded because "The Burial Agency" is allowed to do whatever they want as long as they produce "results"

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