Unpopular TM opinions you have

[asterism42]

in fact now that you mention it

I get that he isn't really a troll, but honestly how else do you explain the Kaleidosticks?

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'Zelretch is a pervert', I suppose, but that also seems wrong

[SirGauoftheSquareTable]

We're both talking about Mac, right? In any case, even if he didn't, this conversation should be moved to the Threadventure.

[mami-kouga]

All Shoujo naturally has dark themes because of its target audience, which is the same as Twilight's target audience. Twilight has weird undead unbirth stuff because that's what 13yos care about. Mahou Shoujo ain't Barney

I'd say there would be a fundamental difference in the violence in kimetsu compared to something like akame ga kill. Its not the existence of dark themes I find off putting and I enjoyed the "this dream-like magical girl thing is actually a deception" that princess tutu had, but I prefer my mahou shoujo nice and straight to the point and those have been severely lacking for almost a decade now. If you don't mind it congrats! I was talking about my own complicated feelings toward Madoka

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I get that he isn't really a troll, but honestly how else do you explain the Kaleidosticks?

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'Zelretch is a pervert', I suppose, but that also seems wrong

Didn't he also decide that wearing glasses was apparently an important trait for Ayaka in fate/strange fake?

[R.Lock]

All Shoujo naturally has dark themes because of its target audience, which is the same as Twilight's target audience. Twilight has weird undead unbirth stuff because that's what 13yos care about. Mahou Shoujo ain't Barney

I didn't know that Twilight's target audience included 30+ yo single males.

[mami-kouga]

Twilight was a lot of things, being written to anyone not a teenage girl was not one of them.

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And honestly twilight is...weird in general. The graphic novels made it fun to read cause of how good the art was, but all the stuff inside it were odd most of the time.

[weeblord]

I get that he isn't really a troll, but honestly how else do you explain the Kaleidosticks?

a Hisui & Kohaku fan

[Tobias]

Meido twincest, what’s not to love

[Toa of Gallifrey]

in fact now that you mention it

Fuck yeah, my OTP will come to be.

[warellis]

probably because in the west, the most obnoxious zero or bust people who were pretty much everywhere for years after zero came out finally moved on, and the majority of the fandom entreepoints are now from FGO players, fate kaleid or netflix watchers who come from Fate Zero to UBW immediately so there's no real disconnect perceived

Even still, you still get the "shirou is a dumb shounen harem protagonist compared to kiritsugu, saber is OOC compared to zero, why is awesome gilgamesh losing to plot armor, ugh high school tropes" ect

Speaking of that, I remember a bingo chart was made about it once:

[eddyak]

Bullshit, he gets depressed and kills everyone anyway and you know it.

No, the man has a point- just look at Madoka: Rebellion- Start of the movie, everybody's as happy as they've ever been- all the way up until Homura & Mami go at it, gun fu, ridiculously cool shenanigans, and then the moment that's over with, Gen gets depressed that he can't write any more of that and it all starts to go dark again.

[LegalLoliLover]

... I just read Alcatraz as Altrouge... The truth turned out to be more boring than I imagined.

[SeiKeo]

Speaking of that, I remember a bingo chart was made about it once:

Damn! Almost!

[Rafflesiac]

>inb4 in true younger sibling fashion altrouge is destined to be taller and bustier than arc

[warellis]

>inb4 in true younger sibling fashion altrouge is destined to be taller and bustier than arc

But neither Akiha nor Azaka are taller and bustier than Shiki & Mikiya respectively. And Sakura is still shorter than Rin.

[Rafflesiac]

tch, damn anime not conforming to irl trends

[AmADo VII]

FYI Altrouge is older sister of Arc.

[SteelBeowulf]

I don't think it's that unpopular opinion, but.... Deen's Fate 2006 should be the first Fate anime to be recommended if there was not a remake or VN is not an option. Fate 2006 does it's job well enough to capture people's interest, it put Saber The Heroine as the ultimate focus, put her at the shining spot and captures everyone's heart, of course, at the expense of everyone's else. But that's ok, when I first watch Deen's Fate back in 2009, most protag back then are either oblivious, retarded, or a pervert. That was also the time when Kugimiya four heroines became super popular, point is that male protag back then are usually not the focus anyway, maybe except like Light Yagami or Kyon. So Shirou was more or less "just another one of these harem protag".

Also, Deen's Fate made clear what Fate really is about, something which later adapataion lacks focus on: Fate, in the end, is just a boy meets girl love story like KnK. UFO UBW lacks a lot of those dramatic romances, I mean, they did adapt the romance scenes, but they are as impactful as ones Deen's, they played those scenes straight, but it felt like the anime itself wants to end those scenes quickly and get to the fighting.

Either way, Deen's 2006 first, then optimally the rest of the routes in order, then FZ. Or maybe just say "fuck you read the VN"

It's kindly like watching the prequels first, then complain about the original three, or like watching the The Hobbit first then the Fellowship. "Yeah no shit, some of those scenes felt flat for you, they are prequels, thematically they poke fun and reference to the original source material"

[TheSeaDragon]

You are not alone

If someone is not willing to read the fate rute, i still recommend DEEN as a good entry point

[LegalLoliLover]

>inb4 in true younger sibling fashion altrouge is destined to be taller and bustier than arc

No, Altrouge is the older sister who looks younger.

[Rafflesiac]

please ignore this boomer moment