look at the crowd of people bravely standing up in unison and en masse saying i know it's not popular but zero isn't good
Yeah overall they all very nicely embody the characters that's being represented. The only reason I rate Rin lower than the others is because compared to the air of mystery Shirou and Sakura have about them that make you wonder what hurdles they went through to end up looking the way they do in their CEs, she's comes off pretty straightforwardly as Rin in a dress and not much else left for imagination besides that imo
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Originally Posted by successor of the Matou family
We went from Artoria used a full-powered Excalibur against Ea with 1/10th of her strength, but oh no, in Zero, the recoil is suddenly so extreme, she needs two hands. It's a really bad excuse to remove Excalibur from most of the story. What's worse is that every entry since has copied the condition.
I don't think even Caliburn was ever one handed, let alone Excalibur.
Not 1/10th of her strength…Her body will not move as she wishes.
Her legs do not have even a tenth of their original power and the arms holding her sword are weak.
She will fall without being able to block no matter what kind of a weak attack she receives.
But there are no openings in Saber's stance nor is there any hesitation.
...
"!?"
The one surprised is not Saber, but the golden knight bearing Ea.
Ea is still emitting magical energy and bringing forth destruction.
But Saber steps forward into that tumbling storm of light.
Her armor screams out.
Cracks run through every wall of magical energy protecting her.
In the period shorter than a second that they endure the attack, Saber steps up to Gilgamesh and…
"EXCALIBUR!"
She opposes Ea's destruction with the greatest power she is permitted!
Not necessarily a full-powered Excalibur, just whatever she could muster at the time.
Originally Posted by FSF 5, Chapter 14: Gold and Lions IThough abandoned, forgotten, and scorned as out-of-date dolls, they continue to carry out their mission, unchanged from the time they were designed.
Machines do not lose their worth when a newer model appears.
Their worth (life) ends when humans can no longer bear that purity.
かん汗ぎゅう牛じゅう充とう棟
Expresses the exceeding size of one's library.
Books are extremely many, loaded on an oxcart the ox will sweat.
At home piled to the ridgepole of the house, from this meaning.
Read out as 「Ushi ni ase shi, munagi ni mitsu.」
Source: 柳宗元「其為書,處則充棟宇,出則汗牛馬。」— Tang Dynasty
That's the thing, though- Zero doesn't ever tell you he's right. It does seem to frame it that way, but the end of the argument is basically Iskander covering his ears and yelling "I'M NOT LISTENING I'M NOT LISTENING YOU'RE WRONG YOU'RE WRONG", and Saber wrestling with the one part of his argument that hit home. Hell, she even says during the argument, "Why am I listening to you? You two are tyrants!", and Iskander goes "Well obviously!"
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I liked Zero, didn't like Iskandar very much. That must be somewhat unpopular.
Well, it boils down to the whole Kotomine argument of "it's only evil if you lament it". Hesitation in your path is caused by a weak will that oftentimes leads to more death. I recently finished Golden Deer route in Fire Emblem, and after hearing that Edelgard will never give up so long as she's alive, Byleth straight-up kills her in cold blood while she is on her knees. Compare that to some stupid millionaire in a bat suit who refuses to put down a rabid clown, whose only purpose, according to himself, in life is to troll said stupid millionaire. Samurai Warriors 4 also portrays Nobu as a "winner", despite losing Honnouji, given that he walks away on his feet, while Mitsuhide is on his knees in remorse.
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Once and always and nevermore.
True. But I guess since they already went crazy with things like TOHSAKA from Capsule Servant, they've done adult Rin so many times they just decided to have a nice dress and leave it at that.
It's basically that Alex was right about her not being correct in being a martyr for her country and not connecting with people. While she is right that he (and Gil) were tyrants that used the loyalty of their people for their own ends and ruined their countries.
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Blindfold your eyes, so that the approaching night may strike no fear in you.
Let it not burden your soul, nor numb your strides.
Well, how would "telling us that he's right" be accomplished? I mean it's been almost eight years and I only watched it on Crunchyroll, but I distinctly remember coming away with the impression that the audience was meant to think Alex was right, by dint of the fact that Saber was left speechless after seeing IH. Adaptation fumble?
What is critical thinking?
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Once and always and nevermore.
He isn't right because he doesn't convince anyone of anything except that she did things the wrong way. Hell, all it does is convince her that she's right about her wish for the Grail. Gil even tells her right after Isk leaves that she isn't wrong, and to carry on with her own path, even if he was being allrapeyshoujo love interestrapey when he did.
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