Unpopular TM opinions you have

[Byegod]

Because of the climatic quote Hakuno that rebukes Twice despite acknowledging the reality of stagnation in their world. That they are both ghosts no longer in their time, that they no longer have the right to decide humanity's future. Of course we still take action as the player to fight against Twice, but I can accept that over letting a world punish it self with endless war.

It's why the final 'fight' is not against Saver, it's always been between Twice H. Pieceman and Hakuno Kishinami.

Of course Extella shits the bed so I'm not defending it.

It still super bugs me they force you to agree with twice post fight, like can you not?

[Menwearpink]

Do you also hate dark souls.

[Reign]

It's Hakuno agreeing with Twice, not the player. Considering Hakuno has all that internal monologue and an actual backstory, I don't really think he qualifies as a self insert.

[Byegod]

Do you also hate dark souls.

Never been that big of a fan, not my type of game.

[LJ3]

It still super bugs me they force you to agree with twice post fight, like can you not?

TM loves to tell tales where the villain may be 'correct' up to a degree, but is ultimately wrong for a fatal reason.

You almost see this with Gilgamesh in F/SN, while Extra is probably the purest example of it.

[Blastedspider]

Man had ideas, but star servants had the right ones, even though there are no verifiable right ones because of the alternate timelines and the setting's varied eschatology.

If your your timeline is wrong you get into the cosmic trashcan though.

[Byegod]

If your your timeline is wrong you get into the cosmic trashcan though.

And if your last encore you get ignored for 1000 years for.. some reason

[SpoonyViking]

Because Last Encore was still in stasis. It hadn't reached the point of no return yet.

[Byegod]

Because Last Encore was still in stasis. It hadn't reached the point of no return yet.

I mean looking as lb1 vs last encore, lb1 seemed to be developing while last encore had less than a few 100k people alive and civilisation didnt seem to exist period

[SpoonyViking]

The Yaga weren't human anymore, though. That also seems to be a deciding factor, somehow.

[Menwearpink]

Well what actually advances in LB1? It’s pretty much villages or furry people hunting and doing all they can just to kill some monsters so they got something to eat. No real activities or culture that advances.

[pinetree]

I mean looking as lb1 vs last encore, lb1 seemed to be developing while last encore had less than a few 100k people alive and civilisation didnt seem to exist period

LB1 was definitely not developing. Nothing that existed there could possibly go against Ivan, and Ivan would never change things or let go of his position. All the Yaga were also stagnated. Their metabolism can only function if they consume a lot of food, but food is scarce and their only choice is hunting incredibly dangerous demonic beasts. They're a society forever doomed to live on the verge of starvation, with anyone that strays from it being crushed by the ruthlessness of the world or persecuted due to their culture.

Last Encore was just a worse Extra, and the same condition for survival still existed: the Mooncell.

[Zork Knight]

They did advance from the start until present day, what with guns and all. Of course, an Ice Age and the rest of the world being dead really hindered advance

[pinetree]

I'm pretty sure mages were the ones who created the magic guns, so even that kind of advancement happened many years before.

[AAM1232]

The goal of the Crypters was to try and advance their LBs so that it might begin to progress again, and Kadoc was planning on removing Ivan in favour of Anastasia for that purpose. Kinda tells you that the LBs initially are incapable of developing, especially when LB5.2 says their histories were simulated anyway from the point of culling to modern day.

[Blastedspider]

And if your last encore you get ignored for 1000 years for.. some reason

Moon Cell most likely.

[madarra]

didnt it take 1000 for Last Encore world to kill itself? And keeping the mooncell in standby was to make sure nobody fixes it?

Like Chaldeas can see 100 years into the future but cant change anything so all you get is a early warning system.
The Mooncell can see further and affect the timeline so ot already made sure the next 1000 years were fine, and then Twice put it on standby before it could maintain more thañ the next 1000.
Dont remember if Last Encore said how long the world would last under Leos "making sure everyone was comfy till the end of the world" rule.

[fumei]

They did advance from the start until present day, what with guns and all. Of course, an Ice Age and the rest of the world being dead really hindered advance

Well, they didn't advance the way you typically think about advancing. The way lostbelts work is that they're taken from the point of divergence, and then the tree basically runs a realtime simulation of "how would this world proceed", and spits it out. That's what the galaxy inside the trees are, and so basically you make a jump from divergence point to current day, but everyone in the lostbelt itself gets the knowledge of the time passing, as if it really happened.

[Dullahan]

We're tired of trees. We should stop believing in trees, roots, and radicles. They've made us suffer too much.

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[madarra]

Lostbelts basically work on that theory that says the universe was created 15 minutes ago with 15 billion years of history, rather than existing for 15 billion years.