Its difficult to imagine a functional red factionbecause it was written wit te idea of Amakusa takin over since start. But if he didnt, Jeanne would be forced to keep neutrality .
But yea, now i see it, is not te stomp i imained, but red still get morre raw power
Yes and it's infuriating. I know I have to just 'accept it' and I'm working on that but this obsession with Servants, not just on the writers' part, but especially on the fans' part, derailed everything!.Originally Posted by TheSeaDragon
FGO is about a master gettin every servant in existeence, including ones we knew prior, and seems to be doing fine
Maybe just don't go for the premise of "What about a HGW but with Moar Servants?" to begin with? Just craft a story with Tokisada, have some different excuse for Jeanne's intervention as Ruler and you might end up with a streamlined cast of characters that actually allows you to juggle them. Maybe then you could actually have the coolest Master-Servant duo in the story to actually affect the plot. For as cool as Shishigou and Mordred are they achieved precisely fuck-all. What a waste of two perfectly good characters.
burn your dread you coward
Not every Fate story is about masters and servants. In prillya servants are.....a card, and case files is just clock tower
Maybe the Pentel brothers could coordinate better with each other, though having their Servants(Achilles and Spartacus) paired up is unlikely to synergize. I could also see some Red Servants may reject their Masters, like Atalante.
All in all, it was a wasted opportunity.
I think master servant dynamics tend to be most interesting parts of fate stories (FGO being outlier since I only latch on to the dynamics with servants that are my type) since it's fun to see how this almost mystical being plays off a comparatively more normal person.
That said, for apocrypha specifically, Higashide cut the cast but getting rid of most of the red masters and still struggled with giving characters the barest of characterisation before killing them two seconds later. A longer apocrypha would have been an improvement but I don't necessarily see unweeding up the Red masters as part of that.
Case Files has one Servant as a major antagonist; and though they don't appear Artoria and Iskandar have heavily felt presences throughout the story.
Also Kay.
Yabuki Kentarou. He also made a shounen manga series "Black Cat".
How much of the plot was higashide vs directions from nasu/lack of oversight? I know seig was nasu's idea along with the character arc. and yes i know higashide was the one to write it. What I mean is how much was higashide's hands tied, as amakusa was also nasu right? So i could see the red master thing being nasu and not higashide?
I am sure they get a free hand in writing a story. Characters can always be reinterpreted except maybe Karna who already made appearance in fate extra ccc.
The plot and direction is obviously on higashide's hand. That's how it is most of the story they are in charge with. If there's an intervention it would be in lore department. After all the goal is to create good story in the first place
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If you have a good idea you can tell the writer in charge whether it works or not. Apocrypha isn't case files where they have to worry about consistency
While Nasu did ask for a few things I'm pretty sure it's pretty much entirely Higashide because it's a well known fact that Nasu barely curates his friends and likes to encourage them to do their own thing. Which is how we end up with inconsistencies that he brushes off as completely daijoubu
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Like I doubt Kinoko "Yes I will make up new lore to patch up inconsistencies because I think what we got is too cool!" Nasu is looming over Higashide telling him to cast aside all the red masters
Which, funnily enough, TLR had more staying power than Black Cat did, the only one surviving from that series beyond a quick Train reference was Eve and Tearju because of course that was a plot hook too juicy not to reuse.
Are the two series connected beyond Yami & someone else being expies?
About as much as Tonikawa and Hayate no Gotoku.
shit BL says
Once and always and nevermore.
Brace yourselves......
I dont actually mind "altria"
...Why?
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Altria doesn't even fit with Artorius.
How does it not fit? The same romanization logic that turns Artoria into Altria turns Artorius into Altris
Yes, meaning that for "Altria" to work, the original name it got corrupted from had to be "Altrius".
Conversely, for "Artoria", the original name had to be "Artorius".
So Artorius&Altria, and Altrius&Artoria are impossibilities.
There simply is no logic to it. Altria happened to be the romanization spat out and Nasu went with that.
You can like it, sure, but it was not a "logical" or "fitting" choice.
burn your dread you coward
As if Nasu actually gave a damn about the Artorius stuff at the time, its was always just Arta Oõ
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