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oh true didn't notice lol.Originally Posted by zarathusta
The tsukihime fate split is still dumb as it raises more questions than answers and still feels unneeded to me
Like the justification of the human order and servants feels like it would have a far higher impact on the outcome of history yet its just normal modern day again lol
Like i still dont feel like its needed as the dead apostle still didnt really take space from servants before, it feels like that only exists in nasu's head
Pretty sure the actual problem is that extended Fate Media turned summoning servants into a weekend project for a Rich mage and his friends.
Good luck having DAA's perform evil rituals within England when the Clocktower just need to decide to fuck you over, pool their resources together and summon like 4 to 10 servants to raise your city to the ground. So the solution, whatever they try, mages cant summon Servants.
Now if Servant summoning was something that can only EVER happen in Fuyuki every 10 or 60 years, they you can just time your evil ritual properly to avoid the problem.
Depends on how rich that mage is. Rich enough to a buy a Grail? Also, you realize that vampire mages are still mages, right? Something, something, antihero Servants, something, something, Nrvnqsr making a contract with Medea in Battle Moon Wars, something, something.
It's not like Servant summoning shaped history or civilization, and until recently it was a distant miracle of a wish to even perform the summoning outside of channeling specific properties via big rituals (ignoring that spinoffs might make it seem like it's easy as piss to summon a Servant). Not to mention it's not like it was always like that, we have to consider when the split happened and whether it's a case of the Human Order declining from that point, or simply not growing stronger. At the end of the day we also don't know what's going on behind the scenes so it's not like we know that everything is the same aside from the one city we've seen (and knowing ORT "squirms" in tsuki worlds).
Also DAA didn't take space from Servants, but what with everyone constantly complaining about the state of Fate vs Tsuki, you'd think it would be more Servants taking space from DAA, no?
Intentional Servant summoning is still entirely dependent on Justeaze's squished not-dead corpse, which only exists one of. FsN and FZ kept in Fuyuki, Apo took it elsewhere, FGO and Requiem required the implied main villain to win the Fuyuki Grail first to make Servants readily available, Prototype and Redline's worlds explicitly not share their basis with FsN, and EXTRA is a weird ball of unknowns but Servants definitely aren't summonable on Earth now. FsF is the one that comes closest to your description, but even that took 60 years and could easily be countered by delaying the ritual for a week.
The real question the split is avoiding is "How is the Counter Force letting a vampire grow this toxic undeterred?"
The oversaturation of Servants within the corpus pertains to the commodification of the concept of a Servant in itself. The imbalance between Fate and Tsuki was more simply that of a constantly developing creative entity eclipsing a long-dead one within a common framework of "worldbuilding".
My personal theory: Tsukihime=Gaia-dependent, Fate=Alaya-dependent
The Counter Force saw fit to let vampires be dominant on the planet since it favors them, since some or most of them considered as.Elementalspart of nature
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Yes.
FSN spent half its runtime setting up this huge plotline of ooh, here's a land with some really incredible leylines running through it, and also there's a confluence of three incredible magus families that all had to pool their specialties to put together this great, grand massive ritual, it takes sixty years on top of this convergence of leylines, in this immense cavern filled with magical preparation, along with the corpse of at least one incredibly well crafted homunculus, in the middle of a backwater so nobody from the MA has their eye on us!
Fate/Other Work: lmao we stole this rock from these nerds, let's summon these 347 Servants that are like Gil tier
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That's actually pretty clever. To continue, it's now come full circle and we're left with an unparalleled measure of stagnation to where what once was thought to be long-dead, has a greater measure of life and hope for progress. Bravo Nasu, your slot machine is a meta statement.
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I wanna make a edgy statement like "doesn't wash the sins off his hands" but I dont have a good enough emiya picture to be my profil pic
I would argue thats a lack of creativity from nasu and co in that they cant imagine servants interefering.
And yes i still think if a world cant summon servants history would stil be radically different and that once again i feel it creates even more questions then any issues that from a false issue that didnt exist in-universe and only in nasu's head (note i said in-univesre, and no the justification that only appear after the split dont count as there blatantly there to justify the split in of itself)
Hell you could ask why hasnt Tsukhime worlds been culled
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How? What would change?
List of potential culled worlds we know:
- World where social change can never because the perma-winter land so barren on resources that everyone is simplu too busy trying to survive.
- World where social change can never because the survivor of Ragnarok is managing humanity as farm animals.
- World where social change can never because the one immortal douche is hoarding all of the technical know-how to himself.
- World where social change can never because it's stuck in a 10-day loop.
- World where social change can never because the Greek gods are managing humanity as hamster is a cage.
- World where social change can never because humanity was extinct until Morgan started editing the past.
Tsukihime worlds:
- Modern world where social change happened and is still happening.
Something something no matter how hopeless things look, they're only truly hopeless if you stop moving.
But then you have Apocrypha in which Darnic leaks the code and subcategory wars are everywhere, Justeaze or no Justeaze.
Bootleg Lesser Grails still depend on a Greater Grail, and Darnic's stolen rock is still the only one in the world.
How do they depend on the Greater Grail when Darnic has it and is keeping it a secret? I don't remember any info on them being connected to it.
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