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    Well does it work? or did the outer gods misfire
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    didn't work, we just got generic tentacle waifu #4

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    There are two things that could have been done to make Molay more interesting

    1. Leave her as a dude, cuz he's one in Arcade (optional, tbh)
    2. The big one, make her an Avenger with Baphomet and Innocent Monster instead of a Foreigner (non-negotiable)
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    He's just putting the bone of his sword into other people until it explodes and lets out parts of him inside them.
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    Genderswaps are terrible, but I think I and other people would hate them less if Fate didn't keep ignoring actual heroines throughout history and folklore. Like, why bother turning Francis Drake into a woman when Ching Shih and Grace O'Malley exist?
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    Fate Zero is just Fate Stay Night for people who think Shirou is too girly

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    Well does it work? or did the outer gods misfire
    Outer Gods don't misfire. It's always according to keikaku. This message was brought to you by the chaos god Tzeench. Remember 'change you can believe in'.

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    Making Molay female improved her design a ton, this coming from someone who usually likes guys better.

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    Molay is probably the first character they gender bended.
    With a male version that actually exist in- universe.

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    Musashi.

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    I wouldnt count musashi, i think they mean literally

    "was biologically male, got turned biologically female" then 'alt universe is a girl'

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirishima View Post
    Making Molay female improved her design a ton, this coming from someone who usually likes guys better.
    Not just gender, but also theme. Male Molay is your basic knight templar. Female Molay is eldritch cultist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pinetree View Post
    Musashi.
    Arthur too tbh

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    Quote Originally Posted by Byegod View Post
    I wouldnt count musashi, i think they mean literally

    "was biologically male, got turned biologically female" then 'alt universe is a girl'
    Da Vinci in that case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reign View Post
    Da Vinci is the most outright trans character in TM probably.

    D'Eon is more genderfluid since they say they're ok with Fujimaru seeing them as a boy or a girl.
    Can't believe nobody mentioned Caenis yet

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    The game itself tries really hard to ignore that part of Caenis tbh. I think Kirsch is the only character who has ever called him by masculine pronouns, and obviously his body as a Servant doesn't reflect it.

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    Honestly its interesting with caenis because thats a integral part of there legend, its the crux but they mostly ignore it

    EDIT: I mean the reason is obvious, but i will add something here. Based on characters that break the gender boundary in some ways already and how its mostly fetishization it feels, do yo want them to make a attempt?
    Last edited by Byegod; June 12th, 2022 at 06:42 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reign View Post
    I think Kirsch is the only character who has ever called him by masculine pronouns
    From what I hear, that's how NA does things, but JP has different characters gendering Caenis in different ways and I'd have to count but I don't think either side forms a majority.

    Then things also gets mixed with Caenis getting a summer alt, but having only a return gift scene on Valentines.

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    There was Ophelia using one pronoun then correcting herself and using another I think? Also I don't think Caeneis has ever explicitly told what gender they prefer to be considered.
    Because you are too young. Or too stupid. Or both.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Comun View Post
    but JP has different characters gendering Caenis in different ways
    If I recall it correctly, it's the same in NA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herod View Post
    There was Ophelia using one pronoun then correcting herself and using another I think? Also I don't think Caeneis has ever explicitly told what gender they prefer to be considered.
    They have not, no. They don't want to be regarded as "a mere woman" but they seem pretty indifferent to what pronouns are used

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpoonyViking View Post
    If I recall it correctly, it's the same in NA.
    Yeah it is. I remember Anastasia and Wodime always used he while team chaldea used she

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    Well does it work? or did the outer gods misfire
    I'm only really attracted to handsome woman so on me, no. Honestly I just find it a sign of weakness by both the writer and artist that the whole body suitable for pleasure thing apparently can't work for a guy.

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    Actually the whole seduction thing is reminding me about how in Ooku they try to play up Kama's seduction powers a shitton but I couldn't feel anything lol
    Last edited by mami-kouga; June 13th, 2022 at 09:38 AM.

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    Kama is just Sakura ver. 27, still as unappealing as ever.

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    I'm not checking NA, but the Caenis chart for JP is

    Male pronouns:
    *Kirschtaria
    *Anastasia
    *Skadi
    *Jason (alternates between this and gender neutral)
    *Blackbeard


    Female pronouns:
    *Ophelia
    *Kadoc
    *Holmes
    *Dioscuri (misgendering on purpose as an insult)
    *Musashi
    *Zeus
    *Beryl
    *Napoleon


    Avoids gendered pronouns:
    *Nemo
    *Jason (alternates between this and male pronouns)
    *Orion
    *Goredolf
    *Kama
    *Rengoku


    "He/she":
    *Nasu's impersonal third-person narration

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