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    I don't particularly mind yanderes but the only ones I actually like are the guy ones.

    That aside, tsunderes do get a lot of flack in the anime community these days but as far as fate is concerned I can't think of a lot of physically abusive tsunderes that don't include the times when they're just legitimately trying to kill the person they're interacting with

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    Yanderes are always a bit too rape-y for me. If it's a comedy show they can sometimes slip through by that being the joke, but almost never in anything attempting to be serious.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tepanyakigo View Post
    Totally agree with Akiha but Illya does not have romantic feeling for Shirou in the original FSN AFAIK.... Prillyaverse OTOH... is totally jailbait
    Even FSN Illya expresses a more than sisterly interest in Shirou, even if she can't compete with Saber. And Hollow shows she's willing to try to hypnotize Shirou if necessary.

    Certainly if she had an older looking body, she would be more openly competing.
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    Illya's brother is such a shitty character that fans couldn't help being awed by Miyu's brother after years of Yuuki Rito Shirou.
    Considering Miyuverse Shirou is HF Shirou but shallower and with UBW Shirou's capability, and yet they think him better, I'm not sure those fans are any better than the ones who claim the Zero Masters are "mature."

    Miyuverse Shirou, outside of the earlier bits with Sakura, feels shallow and more wanky. And most of his fans seem to only like the action bits from him and little else.
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    Reminds me of Take-MOON. Pity we never got more of that.
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    Exactly, "fans" words dont need to be neccesary sacred considering how shallow tey get

    And thats its a perfect definition of Miyu Shiro, " more shallow hf wit some UBW visuals or cool factor"

    Talking about tsunderes and yanderes, you guys now a no anime girl who got traits of both? helga pataki

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    Quote Originally Posted by warellis View Post
    Considering Miyuverse Shirou is HF Shirou but shallower and with UBW Shirou's capability, and yet they think him better, I'm not sure those fans are any better than the ones who claim the Zero Masters are "mature."
    I'm just saying that Illyaverse Shirou is a worse character than Miyuverse Shirou, I'm not saying the latter is the non plus ultra of Fate characters either, just that after years of putting up with that non character Illya fans were pleased by seeing a Shirou that at least acted like a Shirou and not like a dime a dozen cheap harem lead.

    Illya is the true lead of Prillya, true, but that doesn't meant that Shirou wasn't annoying whenever he showed up. Or rather, the routines about him were. Ataraxia and Carnival Phantasm proved you could make actually amusing comedy harem routines around Shirou, but Prillya's takes on them lacked that something those other two had by having a much more watered down Shirou.

    Likewise, Zero's Masters only come as 'mature' because most Masters in Stay Night were literal children one way or another, and even other Fate works afterwards have problems showing actual mature Masters. Apocrypha dispenses with Masters in a faction and the other one has too many characters who are caricatures or children themselves. Strange Fake and Redline aren't that well known compared to Extra, Stay Night, Zero or Apocrypha, who were greatly boosted in the general awareness by having anime series about them.

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    Neiter of prillya Shiros are that great,tbh, its like each is a hyperbole of one classical Shiro trait , Illyas is also inferior to FSN Illya and Rin is inferior to FSN Rin, even in serious moments , Luvia is ..overall same, not like its muc material before, so i guess she is ok. Maids are cool


    I actually like most Apo masters , much more tan Zero "mature" cast

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    The only good Apo master is Shishigou, and the only other tolerable one is Goredolf's dad for the sole reason of biologically enabling Goredolf's existence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheSeaDragon View Post
    I actually like most Apo masters , much more tan Zero "mature" cast

    I guess if you find 6 people getting high in a room together and barely speaking entertaining.
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    Forvedge siblings

    Sisigo

    Shiro

    Even Gordes a bit

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    Cardbox homunculus rolling in bed with a saint was important, obviously. No room for master-servant interactions, or even to have the masters do anything, really.
    Quote Originally Posted by TomPen94 View Post
    The only good Apo master is Shishigou, and the only other tolerable one is Goredolf's dad for the sole reason of biologically enabling Goredolf's existence.
    There's room to develop on interesting stuff for the others, it just never was the intent. A bloody shame, tbh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheSeaDragon View Post
    Forvedge siblings

    Sisigo

    Shiro

    Even Gordes a bit
    Yeah, they're all good, but they're only half the masters in that story, the Red's are almost all hitting Semi's hooka for 24 episodes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daiki View Post
    There's room to develop on interesting stuff for the others, it just never was the intent. A bloody shame, tbh.
    Precisely the problem. But hey, there's 16 servants running around so you have to be entertained rite?

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