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    No, they would probably want a bigger cut than he would accept.
    The fact this series hasn't been taken in by bigger publishers or collabs with more reputable studios, and exploited to the hilt yet should tell you that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AsGryffynn View Post
    Square Enix: Nasu, I've come to bargain!
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    Kinoko x Nomura
    or
    Kinoko x Kojima

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    We already got Last Encore

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    Quote Originally Posted by AmADo VII View Post
    Kinoko x Nomura
    or
    Kinoko x Kojima
    Do you want Tsukihime now or the next century?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Altima of the Gates View Post
    No, they would probably want a bigger cut than he would accept.
    The fact this series hasn't been taken in by bigger publishers or collabs with more reputable studios, and exploited to the hilt yet should tell you that.
    So Nasu decided to pull an EA instead? Good to know, now I feel less bad when it comes to spending money on REQs in Halo.

    Microtransactions, omnomnomnom.
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    To be fair Illustrator is like Takeuchi’s secondary job, or so I feel. I feel like he should do less art and only do it when he’s prepared to spend a lot of time to make it high quality and fresh however.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AmADo VII View Post
    Kinoko x Nomura
    or
    Kinoko x Kojima
    Nasu and Kojima have actually hung out before, so I would go with that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Altima of the Gates View Post
    Nasu and Kojima have actually hung out before, so I would go with that.
    How did this happen?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Altima of the Gates View Post
    Nasu and Kojima have actually hung out before, so I would go with that.
    Was it before Fate/Extra happened? Because that would explain some Extraverse stuff...

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    Illya should have gotten her own route.

    Admittedly, I don't know if that's really unpopular.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benderesco View Post
    Illya should have gotten her own route.
    that is the most popular opinion.

    or should I say demand. then one of Illya fan (Hiroyama) made his own fan fic and eventually became official.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benderesco View Post
    Illya should have gotten her own route.

    Admittedly, I don't know if that's really unpopular.
    She's good enough as a supporting character in HF.
    FSN really didn't need an extra lolicon incest route.

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    Ayako should have gotten her own route... With me.


    here is a list of my servant sheets(new and improved format for my servant sheets)

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    Quote Originally Posted by pinetree View Post
    She's good enough as a supporting character in HF.
    FSN really didn't need an extra lolicon incest route.
    The "lolicon incest" part is why I didn't know if it really was unpopular. I know of some... *ahem* communities where merely saying Illya should have her own route would instantly get you branded a pariah.

    To be honest, I have little interest in the romantic/sexual aspects of a possible Illya route. I do think, however, that she is a fascinating character that cold be developed a LOT more. While Heaven's Feel did do her a bit of justice, it was simply not enough. Hollow Ataraxia gave us a bit more, but I still feel that there is a lot more to her that has simply remained unexplored for all these years. Type-Moon seems to be more interested in exploiting her cuteness and joking about the fact that she is only half of a heroine, sadly.

    Quote Originally Posted by AmADo VII View Post
    that is the most popular opinion.

    or should I say demand. then one of Illya fan (Hiroyama) made his own fan fic and eventually became official.
    Is it any good?

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    Ayako should have gotten her own route... With me.
    Ayako's cool, but frankly, if we were to choose a minor character to give the heroine treatment, I'd go with Himuro. The fact that, hair color and quietness aside, she is the embodiment of 90% of the women I've ever fallen in love with (including my current girlfriend) probably helps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Benderesco View Post
    The "lolicon incest" part is why I didn't know if it really was unpopular. I know of some... *ahem* communities where merely saying Illya should have her own route would instantly get you branded a pariah.

    To be honest, I have little interest in the romantic/sexual aspects of a possible Illya route. I do think, however, that she is a fascinating character that cold be developed a LOT more. While Heaven's Feel did do her a bit of justice, it was simply not enough. Hollow Ataraxia gave us a bit more, but I still feel that there is a lot more to her that has simply remained unexplored for all these years. Type-Moon seems to be more interested in exploiting her cuteness and joking about the fact that she is only half of a heroine, sadly.
    Nah, it's a pretty popular opinion.
    But I don't see any benefit in it, what would you like to see explored about her that Heaven's Feel didn't already do? I don't think there's enough there to fuel an entire route focusing on her.

    Is it any good?
    Well, Nasu says it's the Illya route...

    It's generic mahou shoujo stuff mixed with Fate lore and loli fanservice.
    Illya is an actual child and a completely different character, basically 11 year old Shirou.
    It does cool things later on but most of it is recycled ideas from FSN.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pinetree View Post
    Nah, it's a pretty popular opinion.
    But I don't see any benefit in it, what would you like to see explored about her that Heaven's Feel didn't already do? I don't think there's enough there to fuel an entire route focusing on her.
    Illya is probably the most mentally broken character in the entire cast - and, considering said cast includes people like Sakura Matou and, well, Shirou Emiya himself, that's saying SOMETHING. And that's not getting into the fact that her body and mind are severely mismatched in development - the novels hint ever so slightly at the effect this had on her mental health, but never really bother to elaborate on it. Heaven's Feel pretty much only allowed us to grasp the very tip of that iceberg and Hollow Ataraxia made her a far more well-adjusted, stable person. She's probably the character who experienced the most mental development from F/SN to F/HA, but we were shown very little of how that happened. I understand that expecting a deep dive into something so complex from Nasu might be asking too much, but damn, I at least want to see him try.


    Quote Originally Posted by pinetree View Post
    Well, Nasu says it's the Illya route...

    It's generic mahou shoujo stuff mixed with Fate lore and loli fanservice.
    Illya is an actual child and a completely different character, basically 11 year old Shirou.
    It does cool things later on but most of it is recycled ideas from FSN.
    That... sounds really bad, not gonna lie. Was Nasu trolling when he "canonized" it?
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    Not trolling, but I think he meant less like "here's a legitimate fourth route of FSN (now with mahou shoujo)" and more "here's where you can get all that Illya screentime you wanted."

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    Quote Originally Posted by pinetree View Post
    Not trolling, but I think he meant less like "here's a legitimate fourth route of FSN (now with mahou shoujo)" and more "here's where you can get all that Illya screentime you wanted."
    Well, wouldn't that mean Prisma Illya is a giant Illyasviel route as well?

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    We are talking about Prisma Illya lol
    It's written by Hiroyama. Amado wasn't being literal when he called it a fanfic.

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    I can only imagine the despair, anguish and self-hatred on hiroyamas face when nasu went “haha why would i make illya route when hiroyama already made it lmfaoooo xDD”. Surely there is nobody on this planet that wanted illya route more than hiroyama

    btw narita you and archer herc are next in line for this treatment

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