That one outdated source of Waver and his army of Grand Student VS Clock tower power structure
That one outdated source of Waver and his army of Grand Student VS Clock tower power structure
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Originally Posted by successor of the Matou family
Hold up. The MA doesn't have a hope in hell against a legion of Heroic Spirits. A few magi here and there could probably put up a good fight, and even kill some of the heroes, but as a straight-up fighting force Chaldea would wipe the floor with them, Zelretch or no. The vast majority of the MA aren't combat experts, after all. A good chunk of it is basically a university, and while I wouldn't be surprised if every adult magus had some method of attack & defence, for the most part it'd be average Joe versus nigh-unstoppable force of destruction, and cue FSN day one Rin vs Saber- Rin casts magic missile. It's not very effective. Saber penetrates her. Next opponent. Repeat.
And that's assuming Zel, or any other anomalies they have, would even show their faces to save the MA.
Start out small, FSN cast:
One Kojiro: Zero MR. Would still chop off your head before you magic'd at him. Method for dealing with him: Snipe with explodey magic.
Medea: Makes every magic user piss themselves, takes their own magical gear and uses it against them, may even magic-puppet them like she did Shirou. Rule Breaker takes apart any magical creation. Good enough at magic that she understands the entire Grail system basically the moment she sees it. Would probably get careless and be shot down by a non-magical but magical sniper eventually, but by then she'd have control of all their stuff, and be using it all better than they ever could.
Medusa: Almost anybody can be petrified at first sight unless specifically using mystic eye blockers. Full power Andromeda devours even heroes. Pegasus is nigh-invulnerable.
Arturia: Could take on and beat the entire magic-using population of the MA. All at the same time. A-rank MR that can just ignore the spellcasting of a legit age of the gods magus, plus an A++ rank NP designed to wipe out fortresses and alien gods. Top tier combatant, would destroy even the likes of Bazett with ease.
Herc: Hah.
Gil: HAHAH.
And that's just the original cast.
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Given Rin's success, there's something odd in that Herc, comparatively, might be one of the easier ones to kill
Rin unloaded a high-level spell at point blank, I doubt most magi would have that kind of opportunity. Even if they did, he loses one life, then comes back more resistant to magic.
True enough, but it'd need them to figure out how his invulnerability works, and for him to ignore the dangerous spells instead of just dodging or hitting them like he did Caladbolg.
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At the end of the day, though, what're you going to rustle up first, 12+ magi who can figure out how to die for an A-rank spell, or getting past:
Saber MR
Medea anything
Divine Beast Pegasus
Naturally it's slim odds either way, but a funny thought.
You forgot Cú Chulainn and Archer, eddyak.
To be fair, though, most of the F/SN Servants are pretty top-tier in their categories.
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Hm, true.
They wouldn't even necessarily have to die. Stick an A-rank spell on the back of a spell for homing capabilities. Also, given that it's Chaldea's version of Herc he might not even get the lives or the invulnerability. He's just the madman with an axesword.
Then again, the madman with an axesword is still stronk enough to not only paste MA workers, but the buildings they live in as well.
Cu dodges and ducks and dips and dives and tosses his spear, and magi die- also he's good enough to get into the Caster class, and can drop a runic barrier that'd block anything below Great Noble Phantasm level the MA could toss at him. They probably have a few of those, but they'll take time to get them, and if it's possible to dodge said NP-tier magics, Cu'll figure it out.
Emiya climbs a clocktower a couple miles away, and alternates between sniping and his patented kabooms. He'll probably die once they figure out where he is, but given that he's survived Medea's ridiculous bombardment nonsense at close range, being found might not be a big deal for him.
Edit: I forgot to mention, but Chaldea going to war against their own parent company is a really, really bad idea in the first place. It's the sort of battle where, even if you win, you lose. They still need more staff, they need reinforcements, they need medical assistance for all the Masters, they need funding and supplies, and destroying the place that arranges all those things is a baaaaaad idea.
Last edited by eddyak; November 5th, 2018 at 09:40 PM.
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isn't that the definition of prime for a doujin character?
Though abandoned, forgotten, and scorned as out-of-date dolls, they continue to carry out their mission, unchanged from the time they were designed.
Machines do not lose their worth when a newer model appears.
Their worth (life) ends when humans can no longer bear that purity.
Since when was Zouken a Doujin Character?
Yeah at the weaker range there are magi would lose to a serial killer.“Her name is Pemetrekis. —She is a magus who was in the same department as me at the Association.”
At her words, Darnic also recognized the seriousness of the situation. If this were a mere serial killer, one could just disregard it as a coincidence. But that was impossible if a magus was included among the list of victims. Moreover, she was probably one of the magi who had been despatched to Trifas.
“Is she a magus weak enough to be killed by a serial killer?”
“…No. Pemetrekis is a magus specialized in intelligence-gathering. Adding in the battle abilities of her familiars, a normal magus wouldn’t be able to contend with her in battle.”
“—In other words. This serial killer possesses the ability to kill magi.”
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Last edited by You; November 5th, 2018 at 09:47 PM.
Though abandoned, forgotten, and scorned as out-of-date dolls, they continue to carry out their mission, unchanged from the time they were designed.
Machines do not lose their worth when a newer model appears.
Their worth (life) ends when humans can no longer bear that purity.
It was, Shirou NTR'd Shinji.
This.
Acryonyms destroy conjugation, so netori is technically NTR too
So is it that other form of netorare? Netori?
That's the one from the cucker's POV right?
Yes netori is when the active PoV is the one taking, though Mcjon is right that both are commonly referred as NTR
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IMO netori is not nearly as weird as netorare as it's just another power fantasy
A particularly twisted and cruel power fantasy.
Good thing Chaldea doesn't have one of those then huh
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