Common TM Fanon and Misconceptions

[Asunder]

A somewhat reoccurring misconception is that Mordred's problems could be fixed if Seiba went 'good job son'.

She didn’t even think of asking to be loved. If at least… if at least some
interest had been shown towards her, if she had been at least looked at,
that alone would have been enough.
What a foolish thing to say. You would never have been satisfied. You would
have endlessly sought love, sought compassion and finally sought the right to
the throne, until you spoiled that peaceful rule in the end—
A whisper came from deep inside her. Though she felt irritated at it,
she also agreed with it.

Even Mordred is self-aware enough to know that that's not true.

[Gray]

Magi use circuits for mad calcs. More circuits = more CPU cores.
Alchemist use circuits to build rooms inside brain. You can build n^a with meh circuits so what's the point of using your circuits to do calcs when you have brain rooms. The brain is probably limited so there's no point in having more circuits than what gives you your max amount of rooms. Having extra circuits that don't synergize with the the brain rooms is either a waste or goes against that philosophy of theirs.

Late reply but I don't see a quote in there explicitly saying they use their circuits to create rooms.

In fact that quote saying the continued on as normal humans implies that they didn't really need to use circuits for their calculations, as they separate use of circuits from their intelligence.

Was the highlighting of the part saying they were possessed by Laplace's demon implying some sort of spiritual channeling? I don't remember anything about spiritual channeling being mentioned as part of Atlas' methods. I just saw it as a metaphor for how they were completely dedicated to the causal determinism the demon was used to articulate.

They call Thought acceleration their magic but that doesn't necessarily equate magic circuit use, especially when combined with TwilightsCall's quotation from Extra material saying they could continue their work without magical energy.

[Mcjon01]

They don't use magical energy but I defy you to find me a quote that says they don't use magic circuits.

[You]

Late reply but I don't see a quote in there explicitly saying they use their circuits tO create rooms

If thought acceleration doesn't use magical energy and it also doesn't use circuits it's not magecraft?

[Tobias]

Wasn’t the entire premise of the alchemist organization that they were basically a group of mages who lost the ability to channel magecraft so they turned to alternate strategies such as creating concepts that could do it for them as well as prediction of the future by way of Laplace’s Demon?

either they don’t have circuits or they completely lost connection to the land, and since they appear not to be able to channel at all I actually think they probably don’t have mystic circuits anymore as we understand them.

[You]

Wasn’t the entire premise of the alchemist organization that they were basically a group of mages who lost the ability to channel magecraft so they turned to alternate strategies such as creating concepts that could do it for them as well as prediction of the future by way of Laplace’s Demon?

either they don’t have circuits or they completely lost connection to the land, and since they appear not to be able to channel at all I actually think they probably don’t have mystic circuits anymore as we understand them.

I hurriedly enter a large building in order to download data simultaneously from the gathered minds there.

With only poor Magic Circuits, we cannot rely upon magical means for the realization of the occult.
Therefore, we use only our minds to do so.
We read the stars, the wind, people, the

This is why they call me the Spirit Hacker Sion Eltnam.
This filament, Etherlite, is able to compel and coerce the human nervous system.

"It goes without saying that the future is not something that occurs, but is something that is made.
With the ingredients of the present day, we make the future for better or worse. We analyze these ingredients to measure the future.
We dramatically shift probability to make a perfect model from the ingredients.
Magic Circuits are paths connecting to the 'root' called 'The One'. Magi use these to bring their ideal future closer.
However, those of us with meager Magic Circuits must rely only upon our own intellect to make that ideal future."

The pinnacle of alchemy is creating a miracle.
That is the magic of alchemy.

We are weak.
Our bodies are hereditarily frail and our Magic Circuits are below average.

The source of alchemy as derived by our ancestors is different from what we practice.

Spellcasting is not a method to speak to the World, but a method to speak to oneself. Even for the same spell, different magi will utilize different incantations due to their distinct natures.
As an aside, spells that speak to the World rather than oneself are classified as Grand Spells or Grand Rituals, and it is impossible for an individual to use such spells.

However, the essence of magecraft as a discipline was to challenge that “Nothingness,” and endeavor towards the impossible. Large-scale spells such as the so-called Grand Sorceries, Grand Rituals were really purposeless if not for attempting to reach “ ” (kara) or True Magic.
Kara no Kyoukai was a story of one magus’ attempt at challenging “Nothingness.”

so "ideal future" using brainz

[Tobias]

Yeah I didn’t think they used their circuits for partitioning.

[Gray]

I can totally see the alchemists using circuits for their craft.
I doubt Tatari could be a thing without circuits, I just don't see the connection between circuits and thought partitioning.

I thought it was some special technique like perfect Breathing and Walking the right way, it would just be a method of thinking the right way.

[warellis]

Where were the quotes where Sion is talking directly about herself from?

[You]

Aldeayeah posted the entire melty script in unlimited kitchen works

[hayate]

Common misconception...

Why did the VN stated that Ea is a "Sword of Rupture" when that weapon is originally a staff used as a magic stirrer by the gods?

Are they insistent enough to disprove that Gil is a magical boy swinging the weapon like a magic staff? I mean, look at how he uses the weapon in FSN and Fate/Zero.

That's not even counting how he used it in CCC and Grand Order.

[Mcjon01]

Your misconception is that staves can’t be swords
Anything can be anything, actually, words are meaningless

[asterism42]

if it's a sword then why is gil not a saber

checkmate atheists

[Mcjon01]

Don’t be stupid what kind of Saber would use a sword, swords are for archers (the Archer class is full of them)

[hayate]

Don’t be stupid what kind of Saber would use a sword, swords are for archers (the Archer class is full of them)

And if they fire beams, then they qualify as Saber.

Exceptions to the rule still applies though, as Majin Okita Souji fires beams and is an Alterego.

[Wallacia]

I agree...we dont know the details, but i can atleast see why they thought that since Takeuchi said Archer's timeline might have been something like a "Fate route good route" situation where its not the best or ideal conclusion but they made it to the end.

That UC storyline fits for the most part, there's no real conclusions made by Shirou or Arturia, everything stays on the straight and narrow for Shirou. The only real deviation is the implication that in Archer's timeline Arturia is still looking for a non evil grail because Shirou was unable to make her stop trying to redo the past, but they still ended up destroying that one, similar to UBW because it was evil.

It might have been the same in UC, but its impossible to tell for sure

yeah, but what's the ''missing ingredient'' that separate archer's timeline from FSN that was hinted by nasu?

that's the 1 million dollar question

[Mcjon01]

It’s sex dummy

[CielWorstGirl]

"Shirou has PTSD."

Even ignoring the fact PTSD has never been mentioned in canon or in interviews and whatnot, Shirou still doesn't meet the criteria for the condition as shown here. If anything, (and again, we're being really generous here) he might suffer from Persistent complex bereavement disorder.

[asterism42]

In this case I'm pretty sure PTSD is just shorthand for 'abnormal mental behaviour after a traumatic event'. Because not everyone is a psychiatrist.

[Bobin]

"There were three types: first, there was guilt about staying alive while others died; second, there was guilt about the things they failed to do – these people often suffered post-traumatic 'intrusions' as they relived the event again and again; third, there were feelings of guilt about what they did do, such as scrambling over others to escape. These people usually wanted to avoid thinking about the catastrophe. They didn't want to be reminded of what really happened."

This one get gets listed more than anything, and fits to a T if you want a name for Shirou's condition.