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    Quote Originally Posted by Quibi View Post
    It would make me happy if people hype about the HD and wide mode. I worked real hard on it0
    Hey riddle me this - it was my impression that back when you initially started working on the wide mode that, in fullscreen, it would automatically adjust to any screen ratio between 16:9 and 4:3 rather than just forcing 16:9 all the time while said mode is enabled, like for the ever-more-popular 3:2 ratio laptop displays and such.

    Am I wrong on this impression, was this something that got scrapped, or something that was planned for a future version?
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    I can finnaly play the first route in HD, thanks a lot folks, i really was looking for the HD/wide additions

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    Quote Originally Posted by NM64 View Post
    Hey riddle me this - it was my impression that back when you initially started working on the wide mode that, in fullscreen, it would automatically adjust to any screen ratio between 16:9 and 4:3 rather than just forcing 16:9 all the time while said mode is enabled, like for the ever-more-popular 3:2 ratio laptop displays and such.

    Am I wrong on this impression, was this something that got scrapped, or something that was planned for a future version?
    It's supported, I just never added a switch for that lol.
    (also never tested it on other ratios, but it should work)

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    One thing that I mentioned in the old thread is that I'm kind of annoyed that the wide mode and high quality are both controlled by the "patch_hd.xp3" rather than separate patch files for either function since it makes it more difficult to disable high quality graphics if you have a borked c++ 2015 installation (like I have on my HTPC) but still want wide mode.



    Quote Originally Posted by Quibi View Post
    It's supported, I just never added a switch for that lol.
    (also never tested it on other ratios, but it should work)
    Is there a particular reason it can't just be enabled by default for a future version? I mean, the current implementation only crops the background anyway, so anybody with a taller-than-16:9 display would actually be seeing more content rather than less and therefore I'm not really sure why anybody wouldn't want it.



    EDIT:
    For fullscreen anyway, windowed would be a different story due to the presence of the taskbar and such.

    Also it'd be really easy to test multiple fullscreen aspect ratios just by making a custom resolution.

    Nevertheless, I'm kind of disappointed that it didn't make the cut for the public beta because now we won't be able to have feedback from a wide range of people (unless you specifically "barred it from public consumption" because it's untested?).
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    found an immediate bug as soon as you start the game on the menu....when you try and set low quality mode, it launches into the game instead of simply adjusting.

    Shoulden't it atleast default to the menu as opposed to going back to the intro scene?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Inuhanyou View Post
    found an immediate bug as soon as you start the game on the menu....when you try and set low quality mode, it launches into the game instead of simply adjusting.

    Shoulden't it atleast default to the menu as opposed to going back to the intro scene?
    I'll need more context. Is this before or after prologue completion? Are you using the PS2 prologue menu if the former?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacktheinfinite101 View Post
    I'll need more context. Is this before or after prologue completion? Are you using the PS2 prologue menu if the former?
    its before you do anything...i wanted to test this version so i erased my data and started up a new game...ps2 menu immediately starts up fine, but if you set the game to low quality mode, the game simply starts the prologue as the ps2 menu was not there



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    Speaking of starting and changing quality settings and what-not, I thought the ability to change said settings were going to be disabled during the TM logo in order to avoid the "technically-not-a-crash" situation?


    Anyway, I did in fact have a legit crash during the hotsprings extra scene while I was fiddling around with various window size, quality, and display resolution and refresh rate settings, but I've been unable to reproduce the issue (though I'm not 100% sure exactly what I did to cause it - I did something like switch from low & normal @ fullscreen, to high, then to wide, and then it crashed):

    error


    And the log:

    log
    01:28:39 (info) Width=3200, Height=240, AspectRatio=40:3, BitsPerPixel=32
    01:28:39 (info) Width=1024, Height=768, AspectRatio=4:3, BitsPerPixel=16/32
    01:28:39 (info) Width=1280, Height=668, AspectRatio=320:167, BitsPerPixel=16/32
    01:28:39 (info) Width=1280, Height=698, AspectRatio=640:349, BitsPerPixel=16/32
    01:28:39 (info) Width=1280, Height=720, AspectRatio=16:9, BitsPerPixel=16
    01:28:39 (info) Width=3840, Height=240, AspectRatio=16:1, BitsPerPixel=16
    01:28:39 (info) Width=1280, Height=720, AspectRatio=16:9, BitsPerPixel=16
    01:28:39 (info) Width=3840, Height=240, AspectRatio=16:1, BitsPerPixel=16
    01:28:39 (info) Width=1280, Height=720, AspectRatio=16:9, BitsPerPixel=32
    01:28:39 (info) Width=3840, Height=240, AspectRatio=16:1, BitsPerPixel=32
    01:28:39 (info) Width=4096, Height=240, AspectRatio=256:15, BitsPerPixel=16
    01:28:39 (info) Width=1280, Height=768, AspectRatio=5:3, BitsPerPixel=16
    01:28:39 (info) Width=4096, Height=240, AspectRatio=256:15, BitsPerPixel=16
    01:28:39 (info) Width=1280, Height=768, AspectRatio=5:3, BitsPerPixel=32
    01:28:39 (info) Width=4096, Height=240, AspectRatio=256:15, BitsPerPixel=32
    01:28:39 (info) Width=1152, Height=864, AspectRatio=4:3, BitsPerPixel=16/32
    01:28:39 (info) Width=1280, Height=800, AspectRatio=8:5, BitsPerPixel=16/32
    01:28:39 (info) Width=1224, Height=918, AspectRatio=4:3, BitsPerPixel=16/32
    01:28:39 (info) Width=1280, Height=1024, AspectRatio=5:4, BitsPerPixel=16/32
    01:28:39 (info) Width=1536, Height=864, AspectRatio=16:9, BitsPerPixel=16/32
    01:28:39 (info) Width=1600, Height=900, AspectRatio=16:9, BitsPerPixel=16/32
    01:28:39 (info) Width=1440, Height=1080, AspectRatio=4:3, BitsPerPixel=16/32
    01:28:39 (info) Width=1920, Height=1080, AspectRatio=16:9, BitsPerPixel=16/32
    01:28:39 (info) result: candidates:
    01:28:39 (info) Width=1224, Height=918, BitsPerPixel=32, ZoomNumer=612, ZoomDenom=853, RankZoomIn=1, RankBPP=0, RankZoomBeauty=0, RankSize=514128
    01:28:39 (info) Width=1224, Height=918, BitsPerPixel=16, ZoomNumer=612, ZoomDenom=853, RankZoomIn=1, RankBPP=1016, RankZoomBeauty=0, RankSize=514128
    01:28:39 (info) Trying screen mode: Width=1224, Height=918, BitsPerPixel=32, ZoomNumer=612, ZoomDenom=853, RankZoomIn=1, RankBPP=0, RankZoomBeauty=0, RankSize=514128
    01:28:39 (info) Changing screen mode succeeded
    01:28:39 This: (object 0x053062A8:0x053062A8)
    01:28:39 Parent: (object 0x05305B58:0x05305B58)
    01:28:39 Super: (object 0x03A2AED8:0x00000000)
    01:28:39 This: (object 0x05305E30:0x05305E30)
    01:28:39 Parent: (object 0x05305B58:0x05305B58)
    01:28:39 Super: (object 0x03A2AED8:0x00000000)
    01:28:39 (info) Rebuilding Auto Path Table ...
    01:28:39 (info) Total 43336 file(s) found, 41201 file(s) activated. (17ms)
    01:28:39 ================================================== ==============================
    01:28:39 Scenario loaded : タイガー道場すぺしゃる.ks
    01:28:39 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
    01:28:39 タイガー道場すぺしゃる.ks : jumped to : *page0
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    01:28:39 Super: (object 0x03A2AED8:0x00000000)
    01:28:39 This: (object 0x053062A8:0x053062A8)
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    01:28:39 Super: (object 0x03A2AED8:0x00000000)
    01:28:39 This: (object 0x05305E30:0x05305E30)
    01:28:39 Parent: (object 0x05305B58:0x05305B58)
    01:28:39 Super: (object 0x03A2AED8:0x00000000)
    01:28:39 This: (object 0x05305E30:0x05305E30)
    01:28:39 Parent: (object 0x05305B58:0x05305B58)
    01:28:39 Super: (object 0x03A2AED8:0x00000000)
    01:28:39 This: (object 0x05305E30:0x05305E30)
    01:28:39 Parent: (object 0x05305B58:0x05305B58)
    01:28:39 Super: (object 0x03A2AED8:0x00000000)
    01:28:39 This: (object 0x05305E30:0x05305E30)
    01:28:39 Parent: (object 0x05305B58:0x05305B58)
    01:28:39 Super: (object 0x03A2AED8:0x00000000)
    01:28:39 ==== An exception occured at patch_hd_layer.tjs(911)[(function) operateAffine], VM ip = 66 ====
    01:28:39 -- Disassembled VM code --
    01:28:39 #(911) super.operateAffine(src, sx*src.widthScale, sy*src.heightScale, sw*src.widthScale, sh*src.heightScale, affine, a, b, c, d, tx*widthScale, ty*heightScale, mode, opa, type);
    01:28:39 00000000 cp %1, %-4
    01:28:39 00000003 gpd %2, %-3.*0 // *0 = (string)"widthScale"
    01:28:39 00000007 mul %1, %2
    01:28:39 00000010 cp %3, %-5
    01:28:39 00000013 gpd %4, %-3.*1 // *1 = (string)"heightScale"
    01:28:39 00000017 mul %3, %4
    01:28:39 00000020 cp %5, %-6
    01:28:39 00000023 gpd %6, %-3.*0 // *0 = (string)"widthScale"
    01:28:39 00000027 mul %5, %6
    01:28:39 00000030 cp %7, %-7
    01:28:39 00000033 gpd %8, %-3.*1 // *1 = (string)"heightScale"
    01:28:39 00000037 mul %7, %8
    01:28:39 00000040 cp %9, %-13
    01:28:39 00000043 gpd %10, %-2.*0 // *0 = (string)"widthScale"
    01:28:39 00000047 mul %9, %10
    01:28:39 00000050 cp %11, %-14
    01:28:39 00000053 gpd %12, %-2.*1 // *1 = (string)"heightScale"
    01:28:39 00000057 mul %11, %12
    01:28:39 #(88) class LayerHD extends LayerORIGINAL2
    01:28:39 00000060 global %13
    01:28:39 00000062 gpd %14, %13.*2 // *2 = (string)"LayerORIGINAL2"
    01:28:39 #(911) super.operateAffine(src, sx*src.widthScale, sy*src.heightScale, sw*src.widthScale, sh*src.heightScale, affine, a, b, c, d, tx*widthScale, ty*heightScale, mode, opa, type);
    01:28:39 00000066 calld %0, %14.*3(%-3, %1, %3, %5, %7, %-8, %-9, %-10, %-11, %-12, %9, %11, %-15, %-16, %-17) // *3 = (string)"operateAffine"
    01:28:39 -- Register dump --
    01:28:39 %-17=(int)1 %-16=(int)255 %-15=(int)1 %-14=(real)+0.0 %-13=(real)+0.0 %-12=(real)1
    01:28:39 %-11=(real)+0.0 %-10=(real)+0.0 %-9=(real)1 %-8=(int)1 %-7=(real)191 %-6=(real)198
    01:28:39 %-5=(int)0 %-4=(int)0 %-3=(object)(object 0x08205620:0x08205620)
    01:28:39 %-2=(object)(object 0x003BBD14:0x00000000) %-1=(object)(object 0x053073B8:0x053073B8)
    01:28:39 %0=(void) %1=(real)+0.0 %2=(real)2.13333333333333 %3=(real)+0.0 %4=(real)2.13333333333333
    01:28:39 %5=(real)422.4 %6=(real)2.13333333333333 %7=(real)407.466666666667 %8=(real)2.13333333333333
    01:28:39 %9=(real)+0.0 %10=(real)1.6 %11=(real)+0.0 %12=(real)1.6
    01:28:39 %13=(object)(object 0x00543C80:0x00000000) %14=(object)(object 0x03A2AED8:0x00000000)
    01:28:39 -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    01:28:39 This: (object 0x03EB7290:0x03EB7290)
    01:28:39 Parent: (object 0x00000000:0x00000000)
    01:28:39 Super: (object 0x03A2AED8:0x00000000)
    01:28:39 exception: (object 0x0820A900:0x0820A900)"Out of Rectangle"
    01:28:39 This: (object 0x08203260:0x08203260)
    01:28:39 Parent: (object 0x05305B58:0x05305B58)
    01:28:39 Super: (object 0x03A2AED8:0x00000000)
    01:28:39 This: (object 0x053062A8:0x053062A8)
    01:28:39 Parent: (object 0x05305B58:0x05305B58)
    01:28:39 Super: (object 0x03A2AED8:0x00000000)
    01:28:39 This: (object 0x08200618:0x08200618)
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    01:28:54 Super: (object 0x03A2AED8:0x00000000)
    01:28:57 0
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    Quote Originally Posted by NM64 View Post
    Speaking of starting and changing quality settings and what-not, I thought the ability to change said settings were going to be disabled during the TM logo in order to avoid the "technically-not-a-crash" situation?
    Come to think of it, why isn't that the case? Annon did you send me that and I forgot to implement it or did you forget?

    - - - Updated - - -

    Quote Originally Posted by Inuhanyou View Post
    its before you do anything...i wanted to test this version so i erased my data and started up a new game...ps2 menu immediately starts up fine, but if you set the game to low quality mode, the game simply starts the prologue as the ps2 menu was not there

    Okay so this seems to be a bug with the PS2 menu switch. When the game "restarts scene" as the function is referred to, after changing that setting, the fact that the PS2 menu is on isn't being recognized so it's starting up in the prologue as it would in the PC versions of FSN.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UnlimitedBladeWorks
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    Can anyone hook me up with a 100% save file? I wanted to watch the OPs in their high quality glory.
    Edit: I just found a bug while skipping through the text. The go to next option has a japanese prompt. Also the 'OK' is slightly misplaced I think.

    Edit 2: Found another bug, the movie menu doesn't work for me. Clicking on the OP with the fullscreen playback option does nothing, while the inframe option just freezes the game. The VN was in wide aspect ratio, fullscreen mode. All patches are installed.
    Last edited by Escape; February 19th, 2019 at 10:00 AM. Reason: Found some bugs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacktheinfinite101 View Post
    Come to think of it, why isn't that the case? Annon did you send me that and I forgot to implement it or did you forget?

    - - - Updated - - -




    Okay so this seems to be a bug with the PS2 menu switch. When the game "restarts scene" as the function is referred to, after changing that setting, the fact that the PS2 menu is on isn't being recognized so it's starting up in the prologue as it would in the PC versions of FSN.
    Never got around to it
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    You guys...

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    Last edited by Arthandas; February 19th, 2019 at 10:57 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Escape View Post
    I wanted to watch the OPs in their high quality glory.
    Hate to break it to you, but most of the versions included in the current version aren't actually the best they could be - in particular, improved quality to the OP videos is actually something planned for a future version.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Escape View Post
    the movie menu doesn't work for me. Clicking on the OP with the fullscreen playback option does nothing, while the inframe option just freezes the game.
    Did any of the in-game OP video play, such as the one after the prologue? For in-game OPs, I don't suppose you get a result that looks like the following, do you?

    screenshot


    If this is in fact the case, then check the "Common errors and solutions" in the first post:

    Quote Originally Posted by Jacktheinfinite101 View Post
    White screen after the scene with Saber in the moonlight (aka the end of the prologue)
    Solution: make sure the Media Foundation MP4 and Microsoft DTV-DVD audio and video decoders are not disabled via Codec Tweak Tool (in fact, do not disable anything on either list unless you really know what you're doing!)
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    Quote Originally Posted by NM64 View Post
    Hate to break it to you, but most of the versions included in the current version aren't actually the best they could be - in particular, improved quality to the OP videos is actually something planned for a future version.

    Elaborating before people assume there's been no increase in quality. The Openings currently in the patch are better looking than the previous ones. The previous ones were recorded off the Vita TV, these are direct rips from the mobile version. There's undoubtedly an increase in quality there.

    Where things get complicated is Vita vs Mobile. At first glance, the mobile versions look better, for good reason, BUUUUT, if you look very carefully you will notice the mobile versions have more compression artifacts than the Vita versions, while the Vita versions have more cropping on the edges and overly darkened color correction done to them (because of how bright the Vita's LED is) that doesn't look good on PC screens.

    I've had the HF Vita OP for a while (because funny enough, it's in Vita FHA, as they just replaced over Opening 1 and Opening 2 from RN with the FHA counterparts, leaving Opening 3 untouched), but I just managed to procure the Vita versions of the Fate and UBW openings (thanks Hintay), so at some point I'll do some color correcting to make the Vita versions of the UBW and HF OPs match the color grade of the Mobile versions (and the Blu Ray version of the Fate OP which of course has remained unchanged this whole time), and restore the lost frame edges.

    TL;DR the OPs look better than they did in the last iteration, but will look EVEN BETTER in the next update.
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    Also the current version includes PS2 OPs that are basically taken as-is from the Blu-ray without much of any post-processing (save for cropping).

    Normally this would sound like a good thing, but the PS2 OPs seemed to have been upscaled using bilinear or some other sub-par blurry upscaling method and therefore really could use some sharpening filters or the like.



    Quote Originally Posted by Jacktheinfinite101 View Post
    and restore the lost frame edges
    I may be OCD, but as I said to you previously, even I'm not that OCD - it's literally like 4 pixels on the right and left side.
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  16. #116
    Well I have waited for a few years for this patch, more time doesn't really hurt that much.

    As for the OPs not playing, I am running a new windows installation, so I don't think anything is disabled. I downloaded the tool and checked just for good measure and everything looks fine. Also I was skipping through everything at that time so I don't even know if it showed a white screen. I'll try to replay that scene to check that.

    Another thing I noticed is that I no longer need to change my locale to play. Was this an intended change?
    Last edited by Escape; February 19th, 2019 at 03:51 PM. Reason: typo

  17. #117
    Quote Originally Posted by NM64 View Post
    I may be OCD, but as I said to you previously, even I'm not that OCD - it's literally like 4 pixels on the right and left side.
    Well then I'll own up being more OCD than you on that. That bugs the shit out of me so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UnlimitedBladeWorks
    In all honesty the Ufo Anime should've included a switch that let people chose what route they wanted to watch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacktheinfinite101 View Post
    Well then I'll own up being more OCD than you on that. That bugs the shit out of me so.
    It might be due to my history with CRTs (including TVs), so I'm used to videos having a little bit of overscan - especially since I always adjusted the size of my CRT monitors to be all the way to the edge so that there's no window boxing at all (and, as we all remember back in the day, it's windowboxing that I'm super-OCD about).
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  19. #119
    Quote Originally Posted by Escape View Post
    Another thing I noticed is that I no longer need to change my locale to play. Was this an intended change?
    Yep.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kinoko Nasu
    So as to stimulate the reader's imagination, I try not to write too clearly about mechanics and characters' inner workings.
    Quote Originally Posted by UnlimitedBladeWorks
    In all honesty the Ufo Anime should've included a switch that let people chose what route they wanted to watch.

  20. #120
    It just occurred to me that renaming the installer and uninstaller and putting them in the root folder will cause the uninstaller to both not be copied over and no work from the uninstall programs menu because it's address will be wrong in the registry. Will fix when my head is clear.
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