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    Quote Originally Posted by SpoonyViking View Post
    I like both Kubo's art and his ideas, but he sucks at plotting so much. He really needed a good editor for Bleach.
    I blame Shounen Jump for this.

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    Not reining him in, sure, but a lot of it - the bloating of the cast and the repetitiveness of the plots come to mind - is on Kubo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpoonyViking View Post
    Not reining him in, sure, but a lot of it - the bloating of the cast and the repetitiveness of the plots come to mind - is on Kubo.
    I need to remind you the series wasn't supposed to go on this long.

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    Technically it was originally supposed to go 1 arc longer than it did.

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    Kubo just needs to stay on character design duty. His work for Sakura Wars is pretty good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Comun View Post
    Technically it was originally supposed to go 1 arc longer than it did.
    Originally, it was supposed to end in SS.

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    Do you have any source for that? Because that’s directly contradicts the Can’t Fear Your Own World afterwords.

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    I'm pretty sure Blood War was always meant to be the last story-arc.

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    Per CFYOW's afterwords, Bleach was initially planned to have 6 arcs:
    1) Introduction
    2) Rukia's arc (Soul Society)
    3) Orihime's arc (Arrancars)
    4) Chad's arc (Fullbringers)
    5) Ishida's arc (Quincy war)
    6) Ichigo's arc (the Soul King stuff)

    But since Kubo was vomiting his lungs, he had to rush the Quincy arc and cut the final arc, leaving a lot holes that would make sense once everything about the Soul King was explained (including Aizen and Ywhach's entire motivations and the pretty much the whole reason why Ichigo is the protagonist). Because of that CFYOW had to absorb all of the Soul King arc lore and shift scale from "fun spin-off about Hisagi" to "the de facto ending of Bleach".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Comun View Post
    Do you have any source for that? Because that’s directly contradicts the Can’t Fear Your Own World afterwords.
    Quote Originally Posted by Comun View Post
    Per CFYOW's afterwords, Bleach was initially planned to have 6 arcs:
    1) Introduction
    2) Rukia's arc (Soul Society)
    3) Orihime's arc (Arrancars)
    4) Chad's arc (Fullbringers)
    5) Ishida's arc (Quincy war)
    6) Ichigo's arc (the Soul King stuff)

    But since Kubo was vomiting his lungs, he had to rush the Quincy arc and cut the final arc, leaving a lot holes that would make sense once everything about the Soul King was explained (including Aizen and Ywhach's entire motivations and the pretty much the whole reason why Ichigo is the protagonist). Because of that CFYOW had to absorb all of the Soul King arc lore and shift scale from "fun spin-off about Hisagi" to "the de facto ending of Bleach".
    "Bleach was accepted for publication a short time later in 2001, and was initially intended to be a shorter series, with a maximum serialization length of five years.[3] Early plans for the story did not include the hierarchical structure of the Soul Society, but did include some characters and elements that were not introduced into the plot until the Arrancar arc, such as Ichigo's Soul Reaper parentage."

    It was rushed because Kubo was indeed falling apart with some sort of proto-Covid virus, but that aside, it was initially supposed to be shorter.

    Not a joke.

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    Wikipedia outdated info is hardly the kind of evidence that refutes Comun's point.

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    Wikipedia's source for that links to a Los Angeles Times article, so I don't doubt it's real.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Comun View Post
    Wikipedia's source for that links to a Los Angeles Times article, so I don't doubt it's real.
    I was tempted to link it or find a Japan Times source, but I decided you'd deduce it's WP and arrive at your own conclusions.

    I should also mention this was early. Like, really, really, early on. Kubo switched girls as early as Shrieker's appearance or possibly earlier. Before then, there wasn't much in the way of loose plot threads that hinted at a larger story... then they pretty much boomed, indicating that the series started to get longer afterwards.

    Suffice to say, Kubo did not expect it (his previous work was even shorter lived, so it kind of makes sense) and he fell back to character creation to write the plot. However, when the series did get extended, the extension was also cut off as mentioned before, meaning he had to resort to Novels to finish the plot off and tie everything else in.

    I think it's better. More condensed info means less time waiting to get five minutes worth of plot.
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    I didn't know Ichigo was a T-M protag :O


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    Quote Originally Posted by Keyne View Post
    I didn't know Ichigo was a T-M protag :O
    Wait until the crossover FGO event to commemorate the return of the anime!

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    /strange Fake connected the Nasuverse to the Naritaverse, so Ichigo is canon.

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    Index got written for by Narita and a crossover got made with Durarara, SSR Alter Ego Touma when
    Quote Originally Posted by Arashi_Leonhart View Post
    canon finish apo vol 3

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    Does FGO even have any collabs outside of Type-Moon? It seems like all the event collabs are for anime adaptations, game tie-ins, or LN's. And we still haven't even started to milk Tsuki yet.
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    Wait for part 3
    Quote Originally Posted by Arashi_Leonhart View Post
    canon finish apo vol 3

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mattias View Post
    Does FGO even have any collabs outside of Type-Moon? It seems like all the event collabs are for anime adaptations, game tie-ins, or LN's. And we still haven't even started to milk Tsuki yet.
    Thank god for that, FGO is obssessed with everything being canon and having explanations so those collabs would be incredibly annoying.

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