I thought so too.Originally Posted by Cruor
I thought so too.
I figured so by now as well, but I meant it in a "nail in the coffin" sort of way.
yes yes yes yes yeeees!
more like "it's already rotten"...
Oh my God, WHY am I just learning of this?
Kara no Kyoukai fully translated?! YES! This means I can finish reading the fight with Touko and Araya, and so many other things...
YEAH!!!
Well, what took me a month or so to read in moonrunes, I finished reading in English in about 30 minutes.
...I kind of feel like going into a corner and crying now.
I like this very much, but I dislike the Murder Speculation Chapters translations title. The first Homicide inqury loses much of the charm of the commonly accepted translation for those two chapters.
ARCANE EYES. DUDE. THATS, LIKE THE MOST BASIC NASUWORD. THATS EVEN IN THE OFFICIAL BD SUBS.
BY THE WAY, CAPS LOCK IS CRUISE CONTROL FOR COOL.
Apparently the translator wasn't really familiar with Nasuverse lingo. It was kind of odd, reading KnK without the usual Nasuverse terms that have stuck in my head. In fact, the whole tone of the translation was significantly different than what I've come to expect from the Nasuverse. It was less esoteric. It read more like a Dresden Files novel than a work of Kinoko Nasu. Not that there's anything wrong with that. It's sort of refreshing.
The tone is different because the translator isn't doing a word-for-word translation. If you get into a debate and you want to quote a single sentence or word to prove something, this might not be the best of sources.
Arcane Eyes of Death Perception. LOL.
No, he (she?) didn't even searched for "直死の魔眼" or "chokushi no magan" on google because the first results are always "mystic eyes of death perception" (chokushi no magan even appears on autocomplete, I checked).
What is really odd is for a fan (he/she must obviously one, that wordpress is solely dedicated to KnK) to change the most famous term in all nasuverse.
Saradin, I don't think this is a criticism (it isn't for me, cokesakto THANK YOU SO MUCH!)... it's just something really odd.
I know that, but still can't shake the difference.
Yeah, the translator didn't use any of the lingo at all, and it isn't as if it's hard to find out, it's all on the wikia. I mean, they call the Clock Tower the Collegium, magecraft the Art...No, he (she?) didn't even searched for "直死の魔眼" or "chokushi no magan" on google because the first results are always "mystic eyes of death perception" (chokushi no magan even appears on autocomplete, I checked).
What is really odd is for a fan (he/she must obviously one, that wordpress is solely dedicated to KnK) to change the most famous term in all nasuverse.
Saradin, I don't think this is a criticism (it isn't for me, cokesakto THANK YOU SO MUCH!)... it's just something really odd.
I guess it's simply an artistic choice. I really can't say how glad am I it's here though. I really can't.
Exactly, artistic choice.
Let's not think too much about it. Most probably only fans will read the KnK novels so... a good, short laugh and that's all.I really can't say how glad am I it's here though. I really can't.
After reading it all the way through WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS SHIT. WHAT'S A FUCKING "ART"?! WHY ARE THEY ARCANE EYES?! THE SHIT IS A COLLEGIUM?! WHATS UP WITH SASAKI!?!? WHY ARE THE FAMILIAR WORDS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONE?! SOMEBODY ELSE NEEDS TO TRANSLATE THIS SHIT OVER AND DO IT RITE.
Hope Rides With His Godly Ronin/Cowboy Brother In Law
I SEE THAT YOU REMEMBERD WHAT CAPS LOCK SHOULD BE USED FOR. GREAT. NOW LETS SHOUT SOME MORE AT MINOR INCONSITENCIES WITH NOT-EVEN OFFICIAL TRANSLATIONS.
RATHER THAN FINDING AN ENTIRELY DIFFERENT TRANSLATOR TO RE-TRANSLATE THREE FULL NOVELS WOULDN'T IT BE EASIER TO JUST USE FIND-REPLACE ON THE TERMS YOU WANT TO CHANGE
ABSOLUTELY IMPOSSIBLE! IT IS STILL LOCALIZED! I AM PRETTY SURE THAT RYOUGI NEVER EVEN THINKS OF THE WORD "FUCK"! IT IS RUINED FOREVEEEEER!
I FOR ONE LIKE THIS TRANSLATION OF RYOUGI
My exact thoughts except I don't know what the Dresden Files are, and I find it slightly annoying. I wouldn't tell the translator to take it off the web and redo it because that would be silly, and more translations of a given work is always a good thing in my opinoin, but I tend to prefer my translations on more of the foreignnizing side of the fluency/foreign compromise.
Araya, what do you seek?
「アラヤ、何を求める」
------True wisdom.「――――真の叡智を」
Araya, where do you seek it?「アラヤ、何処に求める」
Only within myself.「――――ただ、己が内にのみ」
Araya, what is your favorite color?「アラヤ、好きな色は？」
Blue. No, ora-- Auuuuuuuugh!「青、いや、オレンジイイイイイアアアっ！」
That one actually kind of feels like the translator knew full well what people usually call it, and intentionally picked out an obscure term just to be contrary. Love the web definitions, though:
A group whose members pursue shared goals while working within a framework of mutual trust and respect
or
A group in which each member has approximately equal power and authority
Totally sounds like how magi do things to me.
I think it is refreshing to read a fantranslation that reads like, you know, a professional translation.
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