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    Quote Originally Posted by Inuhanyou View Post
    Pleaee no nore extraverse stuff..atleast make shit alongside it. What the hell
    did you read the name of studio?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Inuhanyou View Post
    atleast make shit alongside it
    That's literally what they're doing.

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    I will say, the more I hear about Niinou, the more i like the guy.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Comun View Post
    New Niinou interview https://www.yaruki-lab.jp/niinou-kazuya/

    Mostly just a personal biography with no new information.

    Spoiler:
    -Niinou's relationship with videogames started with buying a Famicom and falling in love with pixel art, leading the 7~8 years old Niinou to constantly be reproducing the 8-bit sprites with color pencils on graph paper.
    -Later, when he was 10, he started learning about game programming by cluelessly playing around with a pocket computer until he managed to get something done.
    -His first game there was a completely gimmickless dice game. Just two players taking turns using a random number generator to advance squares until one reaches the goal first. Niinou then went to show off his proud accomplishment to his computer-savvy teacher and got a "I don't get what's so fun about this" in return.
    -After that, he started checking what the dice games available in the market were like and felt forced to admit his game was shit, as real dice games were a lot more engaging with all the different stuff happening according to the squares you land on.

    -His first real job was as a graphic designer at Pax Softnica, doing the sprite work for all 3 Hamtaro games on the Game Boy Color.
    -Although he loved his job making sprites, he had his ambitions to make his own games where he had full creative control, which lead to Atlus eventually accepting his first game project, Trauma Center: Under the Knife, and later his most successful work, Etrian Oddyssey.
    -Niinou's main design focus is making games the players never get tired of playing. More subdued games you can't stop playing over games you play a lot and get quickly burned out.
    -Another highly valued factor is making the game experience equal parts challenging and rewarding.

    -As mentioned in the other interview, before Fate/EXTRA, Niinou's first contact with Type-Moon was asking to make a Tsukihime game with them.
    -Since his Atlus era, Niinou has been sending hundreds of e-mails asking to work with Type-Moon on a game and kept getting the "Our company is too busy with many other projects" response, but eventually he changed his mindset to "If I show them an interesting idea, they'll want to take it", so he presented Fate/EXTRA and got what he wanted.
    -Niinou recommends other upcoming game creator to follow his attitude of insistently approaching companies until you managed to get the chance to make the game you want to make.

    -Niinou then went to Square Enix, where he was highly successful with Final Fantasy XIV and the 2 Dragon Quest Builders games, but dropped all that to make Studio BB.
    -Square Enix was a large company and those large company circumstances made it impossible for Niinou to develop the DQB games as fast as he wanted, so he wanted the next project to be something he could fully control the pacing of progress.
    -He's the kind of guy who only feels motivated to do something when it's challenging, and somewhere along the current challenge he always starts thinking about the next challenge, because life is short and there're just so many games you can make.
    -As mentioned in the other interview, Niinou proposed to make a Type-Moon game with Square, but Square answered "Ok but not now", so Niinou left them and opened his own studio to work for Type-Moon now.
    -Niinou is actually really happy to leave Square Enix because their work environment was too good and he wants the dev process to be awful and challenging, as mentioned above.

    -Studio BB is a team of 7 people with a lot they wanted to do but were denied by the industry's constraints, so Niinou is providing a paradise where they can do the games they want the way they want. And this paradise Niinou is talking about is the actual physical studio office they now can't go to because Covid.
    -Takenouchi (the art director)'s main priority is making the scenery not look stupid. He's a strong believer that designing for a fantasy setting should never mean the buildings are allowed to look impractical for that series' ruleset. Never be bizarre just for the sake of being bizarre, basically. Create something that makes sense for the setting. Meanwhile, Hibara, the art designer (mainly character designer) is the bigger Type-Moon enthusiast and places the main priority on how faithful everything is to Type-Moon's style.
    -Niinou talks about how the game development process is about first finding out what you want to make, then studying if it's possible, then running a lot of tests to see if you can really do it in full, and only then you start making it. Fate/EXTRA being announced means it already overcame these first 3 very time consuming steps and everything is putting their efforts into it with full confidence that they can do it.
    -Basically, what Niinou is trying to say with this is that Record will be out SoonTM
    Huh, so he was involved with XIV as well? Interesting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deathhappens View Post
    Huh, so he was involved with XIV as well? Interesting.
    Yeah, he was signed as Assistant Director in A Real Reborn credits

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    Have they said if they will make major changes in the story? It would be interesting if on certain weeks each playable character had unique opponents. Maybe only nero fights Robin Hood and the other characters have to face a different servant master combo.

    It would also be nice if Liz had some sort of role considering how iconic she has become to the extra series.

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    Scenes are being added but not many, and the scenes in the original script are being kept as they were.

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    I wonder if scrapped scenes such as the ones in the link I posted some days ago would be considered part of the "original script".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ubergeneral View Post
    Have they said if they will make major changes in the story? It would be interesting if on certain weeks each playable character had unique opponents. Maybe only nero fights Robin Hood and the other characters have to face a different servant master combo.

    It would also be nice if Liz had some sort of role considering how iconic she has become to the extra series.
    According to Nasu he wrote very few new lines, so I'm afraid that's unlikely.

    But this is Nasu we're talking about, "very few" might mean a whole chapter's worth instead of a full novel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pinetree View Post
    That's literally what they're doing.
    Wont believe till i see it!



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    Quote Originally Posted by Deathhappens View Post
    According to Nasu he wrote very few new lines, so I'm afraid that's unlikely.

    But this is Nasu we're talking about, "very few" might mean a whole chapter's worth instead of a full novel.
    What i worry bout is if any of these new scenes will try and add new "context" or "characterisation" that wont work with extra.

    Like he tried to go for extella tamamo in one scene and it just super fucking clashes, or extella nero.
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    Nasu isn't writing anything, his only involvement is "supervising the very few new strings of text added to the original script".
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    More like his only involvement is to go "yeah sure, that looks fine" without ever turning away from whichever game he's currently playing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Byegod View Post
    What i worry bout is if any of these new scenes will try and add new "context" or "characterisation" that wont work with extra.

    Like he tried to go for extella tamamo in one scene and it just super fucking clashes, or extella nero.
    I honestly no reason to worry about these two specific things you listed.

    Extella Nero: You see how Nero constantly kept a serious face through out the whole Record trailer? That’s because Niinou finds very important to keep Nero’s serious side on the spotlight. He very specifically demanded Wada and Tange to draw and voice Nero back with her serious expression, even if this makes the work a lot harder and less intuitive now that they spent 10 years getting used to prioritize Nero’s silly cheerful side. Niinou’s made as clear as he can on the stream that his priorities with Nero are completely opposite to Sakurai’s.

    Extella Tamamo: Throughout all parts of the Record announcement deal, Niinou showed zero signs of caring about Tamamo. It's more realistic to expect her script to be completely untouched. Maybe not even reread before the implementation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Comun View Post
    I honestly no reason to worry about these two specific things you listed.

    Extella Nero: You see how Nero constantly kept a serious face through out the whole Record trailer? That’s because Niinou finds very important to keep Nero’s serious side on the spotlight. He very specifically demanded Wada and Tange to draw and voice Nero back with her serious expression, even if this makes the work a lot harder and less intuitive now that they spent 10 years getting used to prioritize Nero’s silly cheerful side. Niinou’s made as clear as he can on the stream that his priorities with Nero are completely opposite to Sakurai’s.

    Extella Tamamo: Throughout all parts of the Record announcement deal, Niinou showed zero signs of caring about Tamamo. It's more realistic to expect her script to be completely untouched. Maybe not even reread before the implementation.
    I can still worry, like if memory serves i saw in the boot screen during the stream 'Twice pieceman memories' at the bottom

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    Yeah, they're very likely to add more Twice foreshadowing, since the original script desperately needs it. Though since no old scene is getting changed, the final boss will still be this complete rando who talks for 4 hours to introduce himself before the final battle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fumei View Post
    Nasu isn't writing anything, his only involvement is "supervising the very few new strings of text added to the original script".
    "Supervising" for Nasu means he's going to rewrite anything he doesn't like so it's basically the same thing.

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    Plus/minus a companion novel for flavour.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Comun View Post
    You see how Nero constantly kept a serious face through out the whole Record trailer? That’s because Niinou finds very important to keep Nero’s serious side on the spotlight. He very specifically demanded Wada and Tange to draw and voice Nero back with her serious expression, even if this makes the work a lot harder and less intuitive now that they spent 10 years getting used to prioritize Nero’s silly cheerful side. Niinou’s made as clear as he can on the stream that his priorities with Nero are completely opposite to Sakurai’s.
    based Niino-dono, the savior of type-moon

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    Quote Originally Posted by Comun View Post
    Yeah, they're very likely to add more Twice foreshadowing, since the original script desperately needs it. Though since no old scene is getting changed, the final boss will still be this complete rando who talks for 4 hours to introduce himself before the final battle.
    If there is one part I wouldnt mind being rewritten is that lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by weeblord View Post
    based Niino-dono, the savior of type-moon
    he will not save type-moon.

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