Create A Singularity / Lostbelt

**Tabris** · April 5th, 2022, 07:11 PM

Originally Posted by Wan Dering'cul Tivator

Name: holo-HAACHAMA-CHAMA-CHAMA-CHAMA!!!
Subtitle: LORD HAACHAMA-SAMA's Kitchen
Lost Depth: HAACHAMA

Biblically Accurate Kanata Acquiring a Sacrifice for LORD HAACHAMA-SAMA
Origin: Dec. 19th 2020
Location: Japan
King: LORD HAACHAMA-SAMA
Crypter: Biblically Accurate HoloMems
Fantasy Tree: The Hololive Rabbit Hole

History: This Lostbelt diverged from that of Greater History of Man when the V-Tuber Akai Haato (Haachama) accidently killed and consumed the Spider God Anansi instead of a Tarantula. Having tasted God-flesh SHE would not be sated until SHE had gorged HERSELF to bursting. While LORD HAACHAMA-SAMA was Vore-ing HER way up the Divine Food-chain SHE noticed the timeline being rejected. To prevent this set of HER clones from being annihilated (as well as the fact that SHE was mid way through Metatron and it would be a huge disappointment if SHE couldn't fully enjoy the way he made such delightful popping noises whenever SHE tore a new chunk of God-Metal out of his flesh and swallowed it down into HER gullet), SHE utilized some of HER digested power to manifest the Biblically Accurate versions of the other hololive members. After SHE finished eating Metatron (and picking up a side dish of Daibutsu on HER way), SHE joined up with the Biblically Accurate HoloMems in an offcolab where they condensed the faith in Hololive that had been generated during the 2020 pandemic into the Fantasy Tree known as The Hololive Rabbit Hole (of course SHE took breaks along the way to start snacking on Jehovah). Unfortunately, shortly after completing the the Fantasy Tree, LORD HAACHAMA-SAMA over finally filled HERSELF to bursting with Divine flesh and exploded (turns out that it wasn't a good idea to combine the spicy heat of Pele with the oiliness of "in G.O.D. (Guns Oil and Drugs) we trust"). Alas, as SHE was a being of myriad clones, the various oozing flesh lumps that had burst out of HER corpse once again began feasting as they tried to reconstitute their former Glory. Now humanity spends its time watching LORD HAACHAMA-SAMA live stream her battle royale of eating one another (the remaining Deities being used as side dishes), with the Biblically Accurate HoloMems providing color commentary and ensuring that there are no rebellions or interference with the process.

EXPLANATION

For an April Fools' joke, this is plenty disturbing, mind.

**Vance** · April 6th, 2022, 01:35 PM

LOSTBELT #XXXX
Point of Divergence: 3000-3500 BC
Lost Depth: A+

----- X -----

In one way things could have gone, should have gone, one woman would stand as a footnote to the greater narrative, the impact of her actions, clouding her perception in the mind of men. For the history of mankind would not forget the Original Sin. That woman would be blessed with untold knowledge, having eaten the fruit that connected to the root of all things but she, like her husband, burdened with the knowledge of her wrongdoing, sealed it.

However, in another time and place, a shift occurred. In a moment of innocent curiosity, she took one more look into what she had previously seen. And what she saw broke her. Suffering, death, war after war. She saw kin killing kin for menial reasons, the idea of an action starting when her eldest slayed her youngest. She despaired, even more than what more than she should have, and from there grew desperate. Humanity, her children shouldn't have to suffer from this innocent mistake of hers. They deserved paradise.

And so, she plotted. She had her children, observing in frustration as present history repeated what she had seen despite taking action to prevent such a thing. So she had to take a different approach, surviving past the death of her current family, waiting and watching for the point to arrive. Until it did and she intervened much more directly.

The Tower of Babel was under construction when she approached the leaders of the project in disguise, offering assistance using powers she had learned and mastering from centuries of peering into the knowledge of the fruit. From there, she had slowly directed the tower's design allowing it to gain a rapid pace in its construction. God had tried to intervene by confounding the builders' speech but the woman defended, taking lead in organization. God had intervened once more with disaster after disaster but the woman persisted with all she could, even as everyone around her died.

At last, at the very end of its construction, God sent his angels to destroy the tower that neared Heaven but the woman was prepared. Using her knowledge, she had designed the tower as a weaponized Pillar that would forcefully bind the undefined paradise of Heaven and the defined hell of Earth; bind God with Humanity. With the last dregs of her strength, spent from protecting her tower from God's wrath, she activated it and died soon after. At least, she was supposed to have died. But the binding power of her tower furthered her connection to the root that connected to all things. She exist eternally bound to the tower she made as an anomaly unable to leave, unable to clearly see just what wrought.

----- X -----

Title: The World Over Heaven
Subtitle: Babilla Eve
Lostbelt King: Eve

Creator's Note: So I'm also throwing my lot here too. Had an idea for a lostbelt using Eve, and decided to do it. It's not exactly complete, existing more as a concept idea.

**Desdinova Incarnate** · April 6th, 2022, 03:23 PM

The image gives me goosebumps and hype. I dig the the concept as a potential lostbelt, or at least what's implied by the last paragraph.

Using her knowledge, she had designed the tower as a weaponized Pillar that would forcefully bind the undefined paradise of Heaven and the defined hell of Earth; bind God with Humanity

I wonder what kind of society has developed around this tower, I assume something to do with humanity reaching some higher form of existence? It has the potential to be quite the tripoy lostbelt.

**The Archangel** · April 7th, 2022, 07:33 AM

Very cool idea Vance. Can't wait to see what more is to come from it & you.

**The Archangel** · April 7th, 2022, 07:50 AM

All Heroic Spirits(Inc...)

19Hassans(King,Serenity,Arm,100) Abigail, Achilles, Aeneas, AfonsoI, Agamemnon, Agravain, Ajax, Alcides, Aleister, Amakusa, Anastasia, Andersen, Angra, Anne&Mary, Arachne, Archimedes, Ariadne, Arjuna, Arturia, Asclepius, Ashoka, Ashwatthaman, Asterios, Astolfo, Atalanta, Attila, Avicebron, Aífe, Babbage, Bathory, Bedivere, Bellerophon, Beni-Enma, Benkei, Beowulf, Bhima, Billy, Blavatsky, Boudica, Bradamante, Brynhildr, Caenis, CalaJane, Caligula, Cassandra, Chacha, Changgong, Charlemagne, ChenGong, Chiron, Circe, Cleopatra, Clytemnestra, Columbus, Corday, D'Artagnan, D'Eon, Daedalus, DaGama, Dante, Dantès, Darius, Darwin, David, DaVinci, DeMolay, Diarmuid, Dino, Diomedes, Dioscuri, Douman, Drake, Duma, Edison, Einstein, Elektra, Enkidu, Enmebaragesi, Eric, Europa, Euryale, Evelynn, Fergus, Fionn, Flamel, Fuuma, Gaheris, Gaius, Galatea, Galehaut, Gareth, Gawain, Genghis, Georgios, Gilgamesh, Gilles, Goliath, Gorgon, Guinevere, Hektor, Hervor, Hijikata, Himiko, Hippolyta, Hohenheim, Hokusai, Holmes, Homer, Ibaraki, Icarus, Inshun, Iskandar, Ivan, Izou, Jack, Jason, Jeanne, Jekyll, JingKe, Kagetora, Kaguya, Karna, Katou, Kay, Kintoki, Kiyohime, Kondo, Lagertha, Lakshmana, Lakshmibai, Lancelot, Leonidas, Lionheart, LiShuwen, Longinus, LuBu, Mallory, Mandricardo, Marie, Martha, Masamune, MataHari, Mebd, Medea, Medusa, Meleager, Merlin, Mochizuki, Mordred, Morgan, Moriarty, Moses, Mozart, Mulan, Munemori, Muramasa, Murasaki, Musashi, Nagayoshi, Napoleon, NebuII, Nefertari, Nehza, Nero, Newton, Nightingale, Nimrod, Nitocris, Noah, Nobunaga, Odysseus, Okita, Olivier, Orestes, Orion, Orpheus, Paris, Patroclus, PedroI Pellinore, Penthesilea, Perseus, StPeter, Plato, Prelati, ProtoArthur, ProtoMerlin, Pwyll, QinHuangShi, QinLiangyu, Ragnar, Ragnelle, Raikou, Rama, Ramesses, Ranmaru, Rasputin, Roberts, RobinHood, Roland, Romulus, Ruggiero, Ryouma, Salieri, Salome, Samson, Sanson, Sasaki, Scheherazade, Scáthach, Seimei, Semiramis, Shakespeare, Sheba, Shounagon, Shuten, Siegfried, Sigmund, Sigurd, Sima, Sita, Solomon, Spartacus, Stheno, Suzuka, Sétanta, Taigong, Takeru, Tamamo, Tawara, Teach, Tell, Tesla, Teucer, Theseus, Thorfinn, Tomoe, Tristan, Trung, Tsuna, Urabe, Ushiwaka, Usui, Uther, Virgil, Viriathus, Vlad, Vortigern, WuZetian, XiangYu, Xuanzang, XuFu, Yudhisthira, Zhuge

Following the serotonin, thought of this scenario, no limitations reimagining. Might expand on it by making it an AU simulation permutation of Part 1 that Team A went through.

Similar Rules To https://forums.nrvnqsr.com/showthrea...=1#post3184012

Only one version of a Heroic Spirit in the whole thing. By every Servant, I mean all Heroic Spirits already in the Throne when the Incineration happened, so any that were added to it during OG FGO, only exist in Chaldea or are a different form empowered by outside sources later don't count.
Chaldea summoning is not gacha, uses catalysts like normal. Servant physical objects can be used as Catalysts, however the Servant themselves have the same effect as a Master, a similar personality will be summoned, not connection or power.

In this AU Singularity F was a camouflage Singularity, set up so the other 7 weren't observable until it disappeared. Due to how it was made, the Fuyuki human souls were displaced, which were then used as vessels by various Divine & Heroic Spirits thus originating Pseudo-servants, & given its connection to the Holy Grail War & the fold it created in time other souls connected to Holy Grail Wars & its participants were also drawn in due to causality. There this is why Divine spirits & Heroic Spirits always seem to pick known characters.

Also might change the singularities & add a few more scenarios into each one & then decide which ones to keep simultaneous. Want a true chaos feel like maximum effort into throwing the singularity out of order.
For Rome was thinking of adding Agamenmon's Army, Amazons, Huns & Queen Dino as new factions coming from different directions. Amazons are pissed at Roman misogyny despite their help in the Trojan War. The other 3 are rather obvious.
For Jerusalem was thinking of having Abrahamic figures in Jerusalem under siege from other religions Divine Spirit Pseudo-Servants, with the premise being that "Solomon" BS them into believing that, who ever takes Jerusalem in the end will end up the dominant religion instead of Christianity. So you would have Hindu, Norse, Egyptian, Greek, etc... factions outside Jerusalem, with the Gods possessing whichever Servant has the most affinity with their Divinity, like Heracles has the most Zeus divinity, so it is a Zeus=Heracles Servant, or someone from the Pseudo-Servant criteria explanation above^.

Singularities

**The Archangel** · April 7th, 2022, 11:29 AM

Unfinished Update

Bhima Cassandra Douman ProtoArthur, ProtoMerlin Vortigern Yudhisthira,

Following the serotonin, thought of this scenario, no limitations reimagining. Might expand on it by making it an AU simulation permutation of Part 1 that Team A went through.

Similar Rules To https://forums.nrvnqsr.com/showthrea...=1#post3184012

Only one version of a Heroic Spirit in the whole thing. By every Servant, I mean all Heroic Spirits already in the Throne when the Incineration happened, so any that were added to it during OG FGO, only exist in Chaldea or are a different form empowered by outside sources later don't count.
Chaldea summoning is not gacha, uses catalysts like normal. Servant physical objects can be used as Catalysts, however the Servant themselves have the same effect as a Master, a similar personality will be summoned, not connection or power.
Edit:1 by the Counter Force. By Grail, Gilgamesh or Chaldea one can summon someone in another singularity so long as a Servant version of them doesn't exist within the Singularity.

In this AU Singularity F was a camouflage Singularity, set up so the other 7 weren't observable until it disappeared. Due to how it was made, the Fuyuki human souls were displaced, which were then used as vessels by various Divine & Heroic Spirits thus originating Pseudo-servants, & given its connection to the Holy Grail War & the fold it created in time other souls connected to Holy Grail Wars & its participants were also drawn in due to causality. There this is why Divine spirits & Heroic Spirits always seem to pick known characters. Also due to this the singularities have already been ongoing for 6 months before showing up on CHALDEAS after clearing Fuyuki.

Also might change the singularities & add a few more scenarios into each one & then decide which ones to keep simultaneous. Want a true chaos feel like maximum effort into throwing the singularity out of order.
For Rome was thinking of adding Agamenmon's Army, Amazons, Huns & Queen Dino as new factions coming from different directions. Amazons are pissed at Roman misogyny despite their help in the Trojan War. The other 3 are rather obvious.
For Jerusalem was thinking of having Abrahamic figures in Jerusalem under siege from other religions Divine Spirit Pseudo-Servants, with the premise being that "Solomon" BS them into believing that, who ever takes Jerusalem in the end will end up the dominant religion instead of Christianity. So you would have Hindu, Norse, Egyptian, Greek, etc... factions outside Jerusalem, with the Gods possessing whichever Servant has the most affinity with their Divinity, like Heracles has the most Zeus divinity, so it is a Zeus=Heracles Servant, or someone from the Pseudo-Servant criteria explanation above^.

Fuyuki:

Chaldea:

France:

Rome:

Okeanos:

London:

America:

Jerusalem:

Babylonia:

**Tabris** · April 7th, 2022, 12:42 PM

Mind telling us what this babble of words is about, and why you felt the need to doublepost the thing?

**BnEl15** · April 7th, 2022, 12:56 PM

Not sure about your more specific plans with these singularities, but I feel like this cast is far too bloated. Might make it hard to let each character shine in their specific moments when you have so many of them to think about. Some of the chosen Servants also don't feel like they have an especially strong connection (both in-universe or in a meta-narrative sense) to be summoned in their respective singularities. Ofc maybe you already have plans to elaborate on them eventually, idk. Just offering my two cents.

**The Archangel** · April 7th, 2022, 01:32 PM

Tabris 1.Not double posted, it is heavily modified, & I saw merit in keeping the original instead of editing. 2.Reading the babble of words helps. 3.Keep the negativity down, no one is forced to read anything, it isn't harming anyone just taking up a bit of space until I edit it to include COLLAPSEs.

BnEl15 1. As I have stated a few times I hate the concept of the setting having to serve the story, even though I accept it is completely necessary. So this is more about breaking away from the constraints of the "story" format & just imagining how it would happen or run its course, at least at this stage of writing. 2. I guess it does appear that way at first, but the summoning criteria are similar to the ones for the LBs I posted before(Counters, won't oppose the Proper History, Geographical or cultural) & in this scenario the Counter Force isn't as "stingy" so my thought was a "What if it just dumped all Servants it could before it loses a lot of its influence?", so they have to be summoned somewhere, for example I might have it ACTUALLY summon 7 Grands to deal with the BEASTs, (Following the lore Crazy I know) 3. Like I wrote by the time Chaldea gets there 6 months have passed in the singularities, so the "cast" might have been thinned out by then, like how we never met ALL the Servants Gilgamesh summoned in Babylonia.

If you would like to ask about a few Servants in particular feel free to, though I am planning of changing them from alphabetical into factions sooner or later. For example one to clarify America summoned some Japanese servants especially tose related to Oni due to Onigashima having parallels with the USA during WWII. Shuten then proceeds to take over Alcatraz & change it to OnigAlcatraz while Ibaraki is searching for a place to set up shop(Grand Canyon? What is a good place to replace MtOoe)-
Keep in mind the rules & criteria I put forth, like if Goetia already summoned someone to a Singularity then the Counter Force doesn't summon a duplicate there hence why they get displaced. Not to mention Counter Force Summons can still get corrupted, persuaded, possessed, etc... & join the side causing the Singularity.

**jishara** · April 7th, 2022, 01:40 PM

Hi Archangel: I like your set. I would enjoy seeing the thinned out cast list, if you happen to have that.

**The Archangel** · April 7th, 2022, 01:45 PM

Not yet, like I said I just came up with it & am writing & posting it as I go along. I am inverting it, creating setting according to lore, modifying traits, etc... & then seeing what I make of it & how to write the interactions.

**jishara** · April 7th, 2022, 02:19 PM

Ah ok!

**Tabris** · April 8th, 2022, 06:40 AM

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Dance Dance Dance Revolution
Human Foundation Value: EX

Date: 755 CE
Location: Chang'an
Grail Holder: ■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■

**The Archangel** · April 8th, 2022, 09:47 AM

Did some more editing https://forums.nrvnqsr.com/showthrea...=1#post3186200

Still not crowded enough XD. Going with this take. After Fuyuki, Team A splits up with one member per Singularity, except Mash & Ritsuka who pair up with Peter & Arturia. the 7 Servant agreement was just for Fuyuki so it is out the window as far as Chaldea cares & is capable of arguing, so as for other Servants, they can be summoned via catalyst or via being registered on the Round Table Shield(Their Singularity & Chaldea Memories are also registered on it, hence why only Chaldea Servants remember). Using this memory save feature, it is also possible to use a ritual based on the shield to change between Classes(So long as they are registered). In practice after a Singularity is cleared most Servants from it are recruited & are then redistributed among Team A & sent to reinforce the remaining Singularities.

PostFuyuki

Caster with either similar personality to Kadoc or meets his manage their own Mana requirement?
P.S. Shouldn't Gilgamesh have also been in the Fuyuki singularity?

**jishara** · April 8th, 2022, 01:15 PM

Pseudo-Singularity 2: The Moon Cell, One Small Step For Mankind - 1969 - Human Foundation Value: B+ - Location: The Moon Cell

The Holy Grail was obtained by Neil Armstrong after he arrived on the Moon Cell, allowing him to see what it truly is. He believes that its existence is laughing at the struggle of humanity to reach it, so he wishes to tear it down and create a new moon. However, as the holy grail cannot do that itself, it instead grants him the power to tear it down and create a new moon.

Servants:
Yuri Gagarin: The famed astronaut, the first human to go into outer space. He is your main ally in this singularity, believing that the moon cell isn't there to laugh at humanity, but to help them. He survives till the end of the singularity.
Neil Armstrong: The first human to set foot on the moon. He is your main enemy in the singularity, trying to destroy the moon cell. He is the final enemy in the singularity.
Laika: The first living being in space. She manifests and fights on your side, but falls to Armstrong in the final battle.
Voyager - Foreigner: The space probe itself manifests as an ally of Armstrong. He faces down Chaldea several times before falling to Laika.
Vladimir Komarov: One of your enemies in this singularity, he wishes to destroy the moon cell and thus to stop space missions.
Galileo Galilei: One of your enemies in this singularity. Faces you down but falls to Brahe.
Tycho Brahe: One of your allies in this singularity. Defeats Galileo but also falls to him.
Edmond Halley: One of your enemies in this singularity. Falls to Yuri Gagarin.
Copernicus: One of your enemies in this singularity. Falls to Laika.
Annie Jump Cannon: One of your allies in this singularity. Falls to Halley.
Charles Messier: One of your allies in this singularity. Falls to Caroline.
Caroline Herschel: One of your enemies in this singularity. Falls to Annie.

**pinetree** · April 8th, 2022, 01:21 PM

Originally Posted by jishara

He believes that its existence is laughing at the struggle of humanity to reach it

Why?

**The Archangel** · April 8th, 2022, 01:37 PM

Originally Posted by pinetree

Why?

I actually thought it was going to be a "Only the USA gets to spy on Earth" XD
Now serious, a "Against God's creation" "Spying on Earth" or something along those lines seems like a more believable reason, but again like I always say it is up to the writer.

**jishara** · April 8th, 2022, 08:27 PM

Ah okay, interesting. My idea is that the reason he feels it is laughing, is because of all the struggles, all the losses it took to get there, and it turns out it could have beamed them up whenever it wanted (or a copy like say Hakuno in Extra)

**The Archangel** · April 11th, 2022, 08:35 PM

Finally found my doc, however it was a Peter + Mash permutation so I have to adapt a few versions of it for the "ALL Team A + Fujimaru Part 1". Dates are loosely the same as release dates since for Part 1 those lineup better.

Peter+Mash

**The Archangel** · April 12th, 2022, 06:17 AM

Story

Attempt to Rayshift to Jerusalem instead ended with everyone who was being sent ending up here. Might have been caused by Jerusalem Solomon, since shortly after arriving a ship is spotted from the shore that matches the one from Galahad’s legend. It contains the Sword of Strange Hangings & its Scabbard(Memory Of Blood), the 3 Spindles(White,Green & Red). This is a plan to artificially strengthen Mash’s Saint Graph by replicating part of the legend told but that had never occurred. This unlocks Mash’s Summer Rider Spirit Graph by using the spindles to materialize 3 swimsuits of matching colours. Strangely enough there is also a floating piece of red marble with a sword in it tied to the ship & a marvelous seat with “Mash Kyrielight” written in gold letters on the back next to the rich bed with all the other items. It seems Solomon also cannot help but dote on Mash & went a little overboard to include as much as possible. Given his wife wasn’t available Sheba was the one to make everything assigned to the wife in legend including the hemp hangings.

For the most of the 1st part of Summer Memories, the plot is mostly the same with only cast & character interactions changing. The big change comes at the end when the group is getting ready to depart. Before leaving Peter decides to take the pact Scáthach made with the boars one step further & shares the usual familiar offerings of names, hair, blood, etc, both his & other servants that volunteer, with the boars, uplifting them & sharing some of their traits. These boars are then given a bunch of "instructions" on virtue & civilization & are named the guardians of the island, and are thus free to do whatever they want with it so long as they still have a place for the group should they ever come back.(This is more obvious set up for them becoming god like figures)

Same thing as OG happens, head out to ocean, drift for a while & return to the island after 2k years have passed on it.
So in this version of Heat Odyssey, the boars evolved into full-blown humanoid orcs(Tensura for reference). The original guardians had become phantasmals & therefore ageless, growing in power over time & mostly watched over the new civilization while protecting the villa of Gods, which had been slightly upgraded over time & while entry was not forbidden, it was a place treated with a lot of respect, since it was from there that they had received their blessings & the seed of civilization for their act of protecting it & the ship of the Gods. Here they are all enshrined(in tiers) as Twin Statues(both Normal & Summer). For some reason Fou seems to be the central figure.(FORESHADOWING)

That being said Twrch Trwyth had survived & just like in OG used a Grail to self-modify & to influence the time discrepancy even further in order to restore his old strength & then ascend even further into Demon God Boar status, becoming basically the Vortigern of this island siding with & ruling over the demon boars in order to expel the Orcs from the island & make it a land devoid of civilization filled with Mystery & Phantasmals.
While the Guardians had been able to keep the demon boars at bay, they were no match for Twrch Trwyth who is not only an older mystery but also possesses a Grail, with one of the original piglets having fallen to buy them time to retreat. With the Gods returned(Fame boost that grows with restoration) & only one bastion remaining, Chaldea(Summer Detachment) must unite with the Orcs in order to restore their civilization, defeat the Demon God Boar & retrieve the Grail that will allow them to return to Chaldea.(while trying to stay in touch & keep this island as a summer retreat resort)

SummerMemory:11/07/2016
HeatOdyssey:22/07/2016
Still 11/07/2016 after leaving Singularity

Servants

Didn't know where else to put this thought so here it goes. EMIYA's Trace & Projection, Peter's abilities, MoonCell, CHALDEAS & the Fantasy Trees, I am trying to put the concept into words that, as long as one has the blueprints/information scan of something & enough energy it is possible to recreate it whether it is real or not. Sort of like the structure of a file is more important than it being the original file. Thus any "file" could be copied & pasted onto reality even from a simulation. If one has a backup scan of an individual & the means to recreate them(Almost like 3D Printing) then ultimately it ends up being the same thing. Like Touko except she builds her bodies by hand & tricks the World into transfering her Soul. My point being everything has a structure & a composition, and if one has the intel on the first & the resources for the second anything is recreatable no matter what it is given the simple fact that it exists in a finite way, be it an Object, Soul, Saint Graph, NP, Person, anything really. If you can "trace" it, store that info in any form & then project it back than instant restoration would be possible. So using CHALDEAS, Fantasy Trees &/or Logos React, one would be able to formulate the "equation" equivalent to the trace & then project it onto reality.

I know this is how Fantasy Trees function, but was trying to explore the concept from a in-universe POV & think of the possibilities. For example might be able to relay Part 1 Simulation memories to Team A, Mash, Ritsuka, Servants, really anybody that was part of them, as well as bring existences that only existed within it into reality, bringing this island & these Orcs onto the Alvalion Lostbelt.

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