Create-A-Servant 3

[Vance]

True Name: Anne Frank
Class: Caster
Alignment: Lawful Good
Source: Historical Fact
Region: Germany
Armament: Book

Parameters:
Strength: E
Endurance: E
Agility: E
Mana: C++
Luck: E

Class Skills:

Territory Creation C
A Caster-class Skill. It is the Skill to build a special terrain that is advantageous to oneself as a magus, such as for the purpose of collecting mana. Caster truly has no skill as a magus but Achterhuis provides some knowledge of constructing and maintaining a hideaway.

Item Construction E~A
A Caster-class Skill. It is the Skill to manufacture magical items, from implements of war to items for daily use. Also, this Skill requires time to gather components and manufacture items. Caster is not a magus in the slightest and so naturally gains the skill at this rank as compensation. Though, it may actually fluctuate depending on her current aspiration.

Personal Skills:

Self-Transformation (False) B
A Skill where originally, Servants are summoned in their golden age, but the Servant was exceptionally summoned as an existence that “will grow up from now on”. In this case, Caster has gained this skill entirely due to the effects of her noble phantasm "developing her character" and so gains a (False) ranking for it. Even then, as someone who dreamed largely even within a hopeless circumstance, maybe this skill doesn't look too bad on her.

Literary Observations A+
A Skill that denotes the writing down of private thoughts and observations. Her story was well written and accurate for the time. The things she experienced before the end: the joys, the sorrows, and everything in between. All were compiled into her diary.

Aspirations for the Future B
A skill representing the vain wishes of a young girl who may never see them through. Her wish was a simple one: to be something that's remembered. She wanted to make things that would leave a mark on people, even those she never met. As long as she holds that wish close to her heart, she can keep going on for a while.

Post Mortem Charisma - (A)
A brand of Charisma that only takes effect when one is confirmed to have been deceased. The words written in her pages had people around the world lend their hearts out to the girl who put her soul into her writing and even inspired the creation of new foundations with the goal of benefiting others in her name. This skill can truly only take effect when Caster has left something behind for others to find.

Noble Phantasms

Achterhuis: The Secret Annex That Housed A Hideaway
Rank: B~E
Type: Bounded Field
The first noble phantasm of Caster. It is the secret annex that hid away Caster, her family, and others for some time before it was discovered and invaded by Nazi army. It is a domain that is, at first, completely unnoticeable, something that cannot be easily found even when one looks for it. However, as it failed to hide away its residents, the notability of the bounded field will become more and more pronounced until it can be noticed by all but the most inattentive of observers. It is best used for momentary relief from pursuers.

Het Achterhuis: The Diary Of A Young Girl
Rank: C+
Type: Anti-Self
The second noble phantasm of Caster. Taking the form of the diary that she had written in during her time hidden within the secret annex, it represents her experiences, observations, thoughts, dreams, and emotions. It is all these things that fuel the diary with magical power as if saying "these words meant something to everyone". She writes with the subconscious thoughts of herself as the "protagonist" of her own story, constantly developing herself; constantly evolving herself. All changes to her Saint Graph are based upon the reality she has witnessed rather than the reality she has created so what she will become can be somewhat manipulated in careful directives. A proficient mage if an aspiration for magic is built up, for one example. A defining limit is that developments only take place after she has written in her diary. Another is that if a large shift of interest in her aspirations then the benefits of her current aspiration will be largely suppressed until her interest in that specific aspiration is reinforced. It is with this noble phantasm that Caster has a malleable being. Her future might end up changing so rapidly that no one, not even Caster herself, will get to see what it looks like.

Personality

Caster is an energetic girl who tends to keep her wits about her. She'll move around the place, almost leaping with a carefree cheerfulness. However, despite her general upbeat energy, Caster has very contrasting quiet moments. She has a compunction to internally comment on the going ons around, something more than likely developed due to her time within the annex. She is an observant girl who forms her own judgements within the basis of her perceptions. She is someone who can be said to optimistically look for a future, seeing her chances were pretty much erased in life.

[RoydGolden]

Anne Frank: My sheet of her attracted some of the most controversy on this thread in a while, so it's interesting to see someone else take up that dubious honor. Overall I'd say pretty good. I had trouble coming up with Skills for her on her own (part of why I resorted to the Elpis fusion in my own sheet) so I'm impressed you managed to find quite fitting and flavorful ones. Her diary NP modifying her Saint Graph when she writes in it reminds me of the one I used for my Girolamo Cardano Servant. A kind of scary concept when you think of how much potential it has, but with enough limitations to keep from being OP.

[the god of world-0]

"Take a seat, Master, I have tea. Let's talk some war strategies."

Class: Archer
Alignment: Lawful/Neutral
Region: China
Height: 170cm
Weight: 55kg
Likes: Tea, relaxing, destroying his enemies
Dislikes: Coffee, brutes, losing
Talent: Making explosives
Armaments: Fire weapons
Natural Enemy: Mongolians

Stats

Str: C
End: D
Agi: B
Mna: C
Lck: A
NP: C

Skills

Class Skills

Magic Resistance(D): Cancels Single-Action spells. Magic Resistance of the same degree as an amulet that rejects magical energy.

Independent Action(B): The ability to remain independent even when rejecting, or being unable to receive a mana supply from the Master. It is possible for Archer to stay in the world for two days without a Master. However, this is the ideal value achieved by maximally conserving mana and avoiding battle and Noble Phantasm usage.

Personal Skills

Military Strategy(C): A tactical instinctive ability in regards to battle involving large numbers.
Grants correction in the case of using an anti-army Noble Phantasm or when against the enemy's own anti-army Noble Phantasm. Archer is a renowned commander, remembered for his effective tactics.

Explosive Production(B): The ability to produce bombs and other types of explosives. There is no need for materials, as Archer can cover it by expending a bit of mana. However, large production could potentially be too costly, making the use of physical materials a viable option in this situation.

Attack by Fire(B): A Skill named after one of the thirteen chapters of The Art of War, which explains the specific use of the environment as a weapon. By setting incendiary points in specific locations on the battlefield, Archer can gain the advantage in combat.

Noble Phantasm

Fire Drake Manual

Huo Long Jing

Rank: Anti-Group, C

Archer's Noble Phantasm, the full expanse of his knowledge on gunpowder and gunpowder weapons. Named after the treatise he wrote, this Noble Phantasm allows Archer to create any of the weapons he made use of while alive. Fire arrows, fire lances, hand grenades, cannons with exploding cannonballs, land mines, rocket launchers, and many more.

The weapons on the Noble Phantasm itself can be divided into three categories: Divine Fire Drake, Poisonous Fire Drake, and Burning Fire Drake. These come from the different types of explosives employed by Archer in each weapon. Divine Fire Drake weapons have the greatest destructive/explosive power and are used to cause direct damage, while Poisonous Fire Drake weapons are used to disperse chemicals on the battlefield with the purpose to induce negative statuses on the opponent, and Burning Fire Drake weapons are used to start fires and raise curtains of smoke in strategic points of the battlefield.

Because of the nature of these weapons, they are always single-use only, meaning Archer has to make new weapons constantly and spends quite a bit of mana in the process. Furthermore, explosions don't distinguish friends and foes, and Archer has to keep in mind the position of allies and enemies on the field, least he blasts his master to kingdom come.

Background

Archer's name is Jiao Yu, a Chinese military officer, philosopher, and writer of the Ming dynasty underZhu Yuangzhang, who founded the dynasty and became known as the Hongwu Emperor. He was entrusted by Zhu as a leadingartillery officer for the rebel army that overthrew theMongol Yuan Dynasty and established the Ming Dynasty.

Archer was an aspiring scholar in his youth, but his studies had limited practical value under the ruling Mongol dynasty since they had restricted the number of Chinese accepted into government service. However, he had met an adeptDaoistintellect living in theTianliang Mountainknown as Chichi Daoren (the "Knowing-when-to-stop Daoist"). Like Archer, Daoren accepted the teachings ofConfucius andMencius, but in military affairs, Archer was convinced that the Daoist had inherited the skill of the ancientSun Tzu. After Archer became hisProtégé, Daoren urged him to join the cause of Zhu Yuanzhang's rebellion. Daoren had also shared with him various literary works on fire weapons and their recorded uses in battle.

After the successful rebellion (In large part due to Archer's weapons) and the establishment of Zhu Yuanzhang as the Ming dynasty's new Hongwu Emperor, Archer was charged with manufacturing firearms for the government.Archer was eventually appointed as the head office of the enormous Shen Zhi YingArmory, where multitudes of manufactured guns and artillery were deposited for storage and safekeeping. As a senior adviser and general, he was later appointed to the venerable and noble status of theCount of Dongning. He edited and wrote a famous military treatise that outlined the use of Chinese military technology during the mid 14th century based on his military campaign of 1355 AD.

Personality

Archer's outward personality is that of an easygoing, open-minded, and humorous person. He may even seem. Like a lazy vagabond, content in just drinking tea and having friendly conversations with whoever is near him at any moment. This disposition gives a "Lovable goof" vibe that quickly endears people to him. However...

Underneath this peaceful exterior, there is a cunning and ruthless military genius. When on the battlefield field, Archer's personality takes a total shift, and his only objective becomes "killing the enemy at all costs". He is not bothered by collateral damage and does not hesitate to kill innocents if he deems it necessary.

He claims to not have a wish for the grail, but the truth is that he wants nothing more than to test his weapons against the best warriors there are. As such, if he is not satisfied by the enemies he finds in the holy grail war...

[Lambda-Nu]

“Greetings, Captain. I am a Rider-class Servant, Argo. Let’s set sail together!”

Class: Rider
True Name: Argo
Alternate classes: Watcher
Gender: Female
Alignment: Lawful Good
Origin: Greek Mythology

Strength: B
Endurance: A
Agility: C
Mana: A
Luck: B
Noble Phantasm: B+

Class Skills
Magic Resistance A
Grants protection against magical effects. Differing from the Resistance effect that merely rejects Magical Energy, this ability cancels the spells altogether.

Cancel spells of A-Rank or below, no matter what High-Thaumaturgy it is. In practice, the Servant is untouchable to modern magi, so it would not be an exaggeration to title the Servant a "Magus Killer".

Riding —
A Class Skill of Rider and Saber class Servants, denoting the ability to ride mounts and vehicles. Rider-class Servants will typically possess a high rank. It is said that dragon type mounts are an exception, requiring a different ability other than Riding.

The Riding Skill has been lost due to her Voyager of the Storm Skill.

Personal Skills
Voyager of the Storm A+
The talent to sail vessels recognized as ships. Because the ability as a group leader is also necessary, this unique Skill also has the effects of both Charisma and Military Tactics.

Because Rider was originally a ship, she knows a great deal about how to operate one effectively. Therefore, she has this Skill at a very high Rank.

Revelation C
A Skill to "hear the voice of heavens" and take optimum action; a Skill equivalent to Instinct, a sixth sense regarding battles. However, "Revelation" accommodates all matters related to the achievement of a goal (for instance, choosing the most suitable path while traveling). Because there is no basis to it, it cannot be explained to others clearly. It is a Skill held by the soul of the user.

The Argo’s prow was created using a magical piece of timber from the sacred forest of Dodona, which could speak and give prophecies. Because Rider is the Argo given a humanoid form, she possesses these prophetic abilities as well.

Protection of Hera A
A Skill that denotes the divine protection of the Goddess Hera.

Rider and her allies receive a Rank-Up to Luck and any attacks targeting them receive a ‘minus’ modifier to damage.

Noble Phantasms

Argonautica

The Legend of the Argonauts

Rank: B
Type: Anti-Unit (Self)
A Noble Phantasm that is a crystallization of the legend of the Argo and the Argonauts, the band of heroes who boarded the Argonauts.

Upon True Name Release, Rider is capable of channeling the Skills and abilities of those who joined the crew of the Argo. While this ability covers any hero who was an Argonaut, there are some limitations to this Noble Phantasm. She can temporarily become as strong as the mighty Heracles, gain the marksmanship of the huntress Atalanta, or wield the sorcerous powers of the witch Medea.

However, there are some limitations to this Noble Phantasm. For starters, Rider is unable to use the Noble Phantasms of the Argonauts. While she is capable of temporarily summoning their weapons, she cannot unleash their true power as Noble Phantasms, assuming that the weapon is a Noble Phantasm. Additionally, usage of this Noble Phantasm has a rather sizeable mana cost and it should be used sparingly.

Argon Coin

The Golden Fleece

Rank: —
Type: —
As the hidden treasure of Colchis, it's very valuable.

Though there's nothing special about the fleece itself, for some reason there's an anecdote that a dragon will appear if you throw it on the ground.

It seems that at some point, people mixed up the Golden Fleece with the dragon that used to guard it. The story feels a bit like some kind of satire.

Since Rider doesn't have the ability to summon dragons, she can't summon the dragon.

Also, there's a strange spirit living in it, just like a certain Seventh Scripture.

Argo Navis

The Dazzling Ship That Sails the Stars

Rank: B+
Type: Support
After completing its legendary maiden voyage, the Argo was translated into the skies as a constellation to guide weary sailors and serve as an eternal reminder of Rider's glorious expedition.

Reflecting its assumed form as a 'ship of the stars', Rider may invoke this Noble Phantasm whenever the Argo Navis constellation is visible in the night sky. Upon activation, Rider will transform into her original ship form and gain the ability to sail through the sky thanks to having been immortalized in the stars, leaving a trail of stardust as she sails. Additionally, the ship’s hull is extraordinarily durable, with only a select few attacks being able to so much as dent it, and even fewer being able to break through it.

While in ship form, Rider gains the ability to summon the heroes who once sailed on her as wraiths. The first one to be summoned will always be Jason, due to his position as the ship’s captain. Once he is summoned, Rider will be able to summon whichever Argonaut she wishes. However, the ship acts as their anchor to the World and they will immediately vanish whenever Rider transforms back into her normal form.

Additionally, maintaining her ship form is very taxing on Rider’s mana and manifesting the Argonauts adds to this burden.

Lore:

The ship on which Jason and the Argonauts sailed from Iolcos to Colchis to retrieve the Golden Fleece.

The Argo was constructed by the shipwright Argus, after whom she was named, and her crew received the divine protection of Hera. During her construction, Argus received assistance from Athena, who also taught Tiphys to attach the sail to the mast, for he as the steersman would need absolute knowledge of the workings of the ship. Her prow contained a magical piece of timber from the sacred forest of Dodona, which could speak and give prophecies.

After her successful journey, she was consecrated to Poseidon in the Isthmus of Corinth and then translated into the sky and transformed into the constellation Argo Navis.

After being reduced to a wandering beggar because of Medea’s retaliation against him, Jason one day went to the abandoned Argo and lamented his current state. He went to sleep and while sleeping, a beam fell on top of him and killed him.

Personality:

Likes: Heroes, adventure, Captain Jason
Dislikes: Villains, Captain Jason
Talents: Sailing
Natural Enemy: Jason
Argo is a rather shy girl who puts up a calm demeanor most of the time but becomes much more excitable when in the presence of someone who she considers a hero. The sacred timber composing her prow has translated into a heightened intelligence in her human form.

She looks back at her time with the Argonauts with a great deal of nostalgia and longs to go on an adventure with them again. She has mixed feelings towards Jason. On one hand, she thinks that he was a good captain and a decent hero. But on the other, she views him as a coward who wasn’t good at anything else. She also does seem to feel a little guilty about accidentally killing him.

Argo is extremely loyal to whoever she deems as her

Master

Captain

and will stick with them until the very end, which she expects them to do in return. That said, she will only recognize someone as her Captain if she considers them to be a hero. A captain should go down with his ship, after all. If she does not consider her current contracted Master to be a hero, she will wait for someone else whom she does consider a hero and attempt to leave her Master when she does find a new potential Captain to contract with.

Due to having the divine protection of Hera, Argo looks up to the goddess, even if she does disagree with the actions she took towards Zeus’ illegitimate offspring.

Relationships:

Ritsuka Fujimaru: “You are my Captain. You direct me where to go and I will ferry you toward your destination, whatever it may be.”

Holy Grail: “The Holy Grail? I don’t really have a wish for it, honestly. The journey to getting it is enough for me!”

Jason: “Captain Jason? Oh, that good-for-nothing… I mean, he was a passable captain, but he’s a coward and a wimp. But I guess he was a hero in his own right, somewhat. B-but that doesn’t mean that I like him!”

Medea: “That’s Medea, isn’t it? I d-don’t know if I want to go near her. She seems scary now…”

Heracles: “Is that really Heracles? He was one of the greatest heroes I’ve ever met, but now he’s really scary-looking…”

Atalanta: “Atalanta looks different from what I remember her looking like. Oh, she was turned into a lioness? I suppose that explains it.

Ship of Theseus: “So you’re Theseus’ ship, right? Oh, you’re not sure? That’s a shame…”

Gilgamesh: “Is that the King of Heroes? He’s a lot meaner than I expected him to be…”

Blackbeard: “Captain, I do not like the way that this man is looking at me. Permission to engage?”

Creator’s Notes:

A big thank you to RoydGolden for the idea and some help with Argo’s Noble Phantasms. I would give a little speech about what Servants are waiting in the wings, but I have a blog post for that now. If you have any suggestions for what can be done for some of my more incomplete ones, leave a comment on the post.

[Lambda-Nu]

Wait a minute, Vance just made an Anne Frank sheet. Time to restart the campaign to ban RoydGolden again, and Vance too this time.

[realcasually]

Anne Frank: When it comes to this franchise and this fandom, I think there is a mutual social contract we enter into to disregard the idea of 'taste' to allow the full flexibility of creativity that allows us to access history's more interesting figures and those irrevocably involved in tragedy. Even considering that, the one thing I think of about this is that you really, really could have chosen a better picture than one that says "Yikes forever" on it.

Otherwise, it's actually pretty solid, although I think Post-Mortem Charisma is a little too finicky of a skill.

Edit: that one's a lot better.

Jiao Yu: Honestly, I think this is one of your better sheets. It's simple, but technically you're showing a lot of improvement from your older work. Simple but effective. Well done. You did write "on the battlefield field" in the personality section though.

Argo: If I had a nickel for the ships turned into adorable wife material I've seen recently, I'd have two nickels. Which isn't a lot, but it's weird that it's happened twice. Meme aside, this is fantastic stuff-- It would have been way too easy to copy Jason's Astrapste Argo, but you've avoided that. Even when copying its effect, it feels unique because of all the other stuff. The only thing I think is missing is some kind of explanation as to WHY the ship is a waifu now, that would be nice.

[Lambda-Nu]

Argo: If I had a nickel for the ships turned into adorable wife material I've seen recently, I'd have two nickels. Which isn't a lot, but it's weird that it's happened twice. Meme aside, this is fantastic stuff-- It would have been way too easy to copy Jason's Astrapste Argo, but you've avoided that. Even when copying its effect, it feels unique because of all the other stuff. The only thing I think is missing is some kind of explanation as to WHY the ship is a waifu now, that would be nice.

Thanks! I originally did have her have Astrapste Argo and the Argo Navis NP from Royd's Jason sheet, but he advised me to kinda fold them into what ended up becoming this sheet's version of Argo Navis. It was a very good piece of advice honestly and I'm glad that he gave me the idea.

Also, who's the other ship that you saw be turned into good wife material? Please be my Ship of Theseus, please be my Ship of Theseus.

[Morg van Destro]

There didn't appear to be any major difference in using the other collapses? Unless you can format text while using those ones, but when testing it it didn't appear to change anything at all.

Collapse2 basically acts like collapse except collapse turns the text in the brackets into what people see initially while collapse2 turns the text between the brackets into what people see initially. If you're doing a bunch of modifications like changing text sizes or fonts to the text you're hiding, you do collapse. If you just want to keep the hidden text uniform while being able to modify the initial text, you use collapse2.

ExampleOne ExampleTwo

You could also wrap modifications around the collapse to change the text in the brackets and the add specifications to the text between the brackets to keep them from changing as well. You can examine this text if you want to see it for yourself.

ExampleOne ExampleTwo

That sort of thing could have helped the fact that your Description, Class Skills, Personal Skills, and NP all have very tiny initial text. While you wouldn't be able to do everything you usually do or what you did to the hidden text, you could have at least made it bigger. Or, are those really tiny pictures?
Collapse3 would've just been for the NP as, when you click on Collapse3, the text doesn't change back if you click again, which would solve the issue with it flipping when you want to open the spoiler text inside.

Example3

I specifically avoided addressing how the situation turned out later in life because I have absolutely no idea how it would have. Seriously. Chinese history is not an area I know almost anything about, I'd already burned everything I knew.

I never found a way to mention it, but the idea is that it's something of a brain-bender. The high rank in Camouflage enforces the idea that "this is Lu Bu". Even when standing next to the REAL Lu Bu, it's an almost impossible paradox to get your head around. She doesn't HAVE an identity of her own to be 'replaced' with his, she IS Lu Bu. The only real way to start seeing through the illusion is to get her to admit it, then your brain can fill in the blank in the perception filter.

Disappointing, but understandable.

Quite the paradox indeed.

Glad you like it, though! Hope I cleared the bar you've set for the class.

Did I set that bar? I thought world-0 did when he opened my eyes to the possibilities with Mercadier. Dagonet was just my attempt to implement the idea with my own flair.

Koga: FL would tell him off, saying she didn't do it for him, and that his pride means little when it was demons that abandoned her. Mila would likely hear that and need to be stopped from trying to rip out his throat because, as FL said, she was abandoned by them, and, while Mila happy it led to her meeting FL, it's still something that clearly bothers her.

Anne Frank: But if she's Miss Fortune, then who is narrator?

Jiao Yu: Time for the boom boom.
Chapter in Art of War, huh? Man, that just makes me think of Tsung Zhu. Someone must have turned him into a Servant. Let me check. ...Wait, what? First William Wallace, and now Tsung freaking Zhu?! Am I missing something?

Argo: When they say your girl is as big as a barge and you be like "Yeah. What about it?"
I need to make an inanimate object Servant sometime. Something with this kind of style. Guess it's going on the list.

[realcasually]

*snip*

They're pictures. That was the only way I could keep my formatting on both sides of the text. No collapse tags worked at all because parts on both sides had bold text, pictures, etc. I had to follow NMR's example with Echo over in the contest thread and just use pictures to represent one side of the text because it's the only thing that didn't break after testing every possible outcome. They're not that tiny as long as you full-screen your window.

Anyway, you're being too humble. It was your examples of Holmes and Dagonet that majorly inspired me to do something with the class and ultimately come to use it for her, so you're the one I'm directing my thanks towards. I DID think about 'wait wouldn't this make no sense because Lu Bu's death was already historically recorded? Should I say that he died BEFORE that and have her replace him for his natural life as history dictates? But then doesn't that kill half the angle of the sheet that we don't know what she did with her life? And what about Chen Gong, I've set up all this--' It was easier just to wash my hands of it and leave it ambiguous. That's kind of the point of the sheet in the first place, after all.

Also, who's the other ship that you saw be turned into good wife material? Please be my Ship of Theseus, please be my Ship of Theseus.

Unfortunately not, I'm referring to Unsinkable Sam over in the contest thread. I'll definitely be giving SoT a squizz after this though.

Edit: I've returned and I have much the same stuff to say as I do about Argo. I love her, she's amazing, her personality is a treat and the Skills and NPs are all perfect. My same lone criticism stands: It would be much more interesting a sheet if there was a why as to the reason this ship is now a girl. Honestly, I expected some kind of an angle about that with regards to the nature of the experiment. A ship that over time has become a girl. Which is the real her? Also, hot robot wife potential. The faceclaim's adorable and the expression matches the personality you've presented but it's a little... restrictive, kinda punched in on the face and doesn't give as good as an idea of the rest of her. Also a problem that can be solved with hot robot wife. If there's one that can't be, I've never encountered it.

[Morg van Destro]

They're pictures. That was the only way I could keep my formatting on both sides of the text. No collapse tags worked at all because parts on both sides had bold text, pictures, etc. I had to follow NMR's example with Echo over in the contest thread and just use pictures to represent one side of the text because it's the only thing that didn't break after testing every possible outcome. They're not that tiny as long as you full-screen your window.

They still are, but that's no big deal as I assume they're just Lu Bu's from FGO. Though, the description text probably didn't need that treatment.

Anyway, you're being too humble. It was your examples of Holmes and Dagonet that majorly inspired me to do something with the class and ultimately come to use it for her, so you're the one I'm directing my thanks towards.
I DID think about 'wait wouldn't this make no sense because Lu Bu's death was already historically recorded? Should I say that he died BEFORE that and have her replace him for his natural life as history dictates? But then doesn't that kill half the angle of the sheet that we don't know what she did with her life? And what about Chen Gong, I've set up all this--' It was easier just to wash my hands of it and leave it ambiguous. That's kind of the point of the sheet in the first place, after all.

Don't compliment me! *jumps out window*

I can get that. I mentioned Iskander's Shadow, and it's the same situation for her. We don't know what happened to her after Alex was killed, but she definitely must have done something.

Also, weird Servant coming down the line.

[realcasually]

They still are, but that's no big deal as I assume they're just Lu Bu's from FGO. Though, the description text probably didn't need that treatment.

It got it because there was some bolded text in there that broke the formatting. In hindsight there's ways there didn't have to be, but at that point I'd just given up fighting the stupid coding. I'll go back and fix it up another time.

Don't compliment me! *jumps out window*

I can get that. I mentioned Iskander's Shadow, and it's the same situation for her. We don't know what happened to her after Alex was killed, but she definitely must have done something.

Also, weird Servant coming down the line.

You'll get complimented and you'll LIKE it! Now hit me with that weird shit so I can compliment you some more.

[AAM1232]

I'm stuck, and I wouldn't mind some help if possible for a few Servants I want to make. If you're interested in a longer discussion, PM me. Some ideas/themes I was imagining (and yes, these are all Indian Servants):

• Shalivahana (floating between Avenger, Rider and Alter Ego) - A mythical Indian emperor based on the Satavahana dynasty, who is often linked to Vikramaditya in mysterious, contradictory ways. I'm a bit lost here on what direction I want to go with him, whether as a vengeful phantom type linked to Vikramaditya or someone just totally separate.
• Jagadis Chandra Bose (Caster) - a renowned scientist for his work in radio science, microwave optics and plant biology. Also a sci-fi writer. Want to get a proper faceclaim that's also
• Narasimha (Berserker) - One of the 10 Avatars of Vishnu. Someone I picked for the recent contest but never got around to finishing. I felt like I was going too far into the space filled by Ashwatthama, who I really enjoy and don't want to feel like I'm ripping off of him.
• Bhagiratha (Caster) - Inspired by the old Water prompt in the Monthly contest thread, he would use the powers of Ganga, the river goddess as he was tasked with bringing her down to cleanse the souls of his ancestors and fill the oceans.
• Raghu (Rider/Saber)- Great grandfather of Rama, who was known for his virtues and being a formidable emperor in both might and reach. I was playing around with some connections to Indra, as his parents wished for him to be a "Indra on Earth" and the two were well matched in a brief clash.

[Lambda-Nu]

I'm stuck, and I wouldn't mind some help if possible for a few Servants I want to make. If you're interested in a longer discussion, PM me. Some ideas/themes I was imagining (and yes, these are all Indian Servants):

• Shalivahana (floating between Avenger, Rider and Alter Ego) - A mythical Indian emperor based on the Satavahana dynasty, who is often linked to Vikramaditya in mysterious, contradictory ways. I'm a bit lost here on what direction I want to go with him, whether as a vengeful phantom type linked to Vikramaditya or someone just totally separate.
• Jagadis Chandra Bose (Caster) - a renowned scientist for his work in radio science, microwave optics and plant biology. Also a sci-fi writer. Want to get a proper faceclaim that's also
• Narasimha (Berserker) - One of the 10 Avatars of Vishnu. Someone I picked for the recent contest but never got around to finishing. I felt like I was going too far into the space filled by Ashwatthama, who I really enjoy and don't want to feel like I'm ripping off of him.
• Bhagiratha (Caster) - Inspired by the old Water prompt in the Monthly contest thread, he would use the powers of Ganga, the river goddess as he was tasked with bringing her down to cleanse the souls of his ancestors and fill the oceans.
• Raghu (Rider/Saber)- Great grandfather of Rama, who was known for his virtues and being a formidable emperor in both might and reach. I was playing around with some connections to Indra, as his parents wished for him to be a "Indra on Earth" and the two were well matched in a brief clash.

This is reminding me that I have an unfinished Hanuman sheet floating around in my doc. That’s gonna be on the backburner for a long time. Sigh... But these are interesting. Gonna have to look into them later.

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[realcasually]

Thanks, Fortuna. With regards to the second sheet, again, I struggled a LOT making it and trying to get ANYTHING to work. I think I'd just run into the same problems and I'm way too burnt out on it now to even try coming at it again yet. I'll do some more tweaking another time, but I'm glad you like what I managed. I want to address this specifically:

I will say it is a little weird (but not necessarily bad per say) to think of Lu Bu as being shown rather positively with this sheet given his historical status as essentially a 'stashe twirling villain (which really makes me wonder how Cao Cao would get along with him or think of him given his own track record).

I think that Lu Bu, given what we know about him IN Fate lore, absolutely IS still a comically evil shithead. But the only person who's NOT going to see him that way is his kid. She's in willful denial of the fact that maybe he kinda deserved what he got coming to him.

And your post about the Anne Frank sheet is extremely insightful, and exactly what I was trying to find the words to say. It doesn't really even begin to touch on the severity of the things she went through or provide any historical context. One paragraph of personality, no bio, only a few nods to who it actually is... The technical content, skills, NP, etc, is good, but... It's a little too bare-bones for something that needs to be treated with a LOT more respect than that. Sorry, Vance, but when tackling something like that you need to do a lot more.

My favourite example of this is DelRey's Foreigner Hitler from the Dreamers contest. Brutal, horrifying, confronting, thoroughly dipped in the necessary fantasy wankery, but thoughtful. That's the keyword. What you've got is well-written, accurate, technically sound and clever, but it isn't thoughtful.

[DelRey]

I am disappointed in you, chat
I go to bed monitoring the amount of posts here in the hope of yoinking the 3000th post here and become a legend, I come back and we overshoot by over a dozen. Literal racism against my time zone, smh. (joke of course)
As revenge I request information why there seems to be a campaign against Royd. I have seen the first of the tags of this thread and was wondering about that inside joke.

After reading Anne Frank and Argo, I cant get it out of my head how they could actually fit something like Voyager and Watcher instead. Anne Frank took the world on an emotional journey across her life and I feel like such a special Extra Class would kinda fit an important historical character like her, but without much heroic deeds. She is the embodiment of an emotion, the tragic feelings of those hunted.
And I think if we go the 'the class that watches over/creates a hero, that goes on a journey with them and can summon heroes as aid', Argo actually fits that pretty spot-on now that I think about it, at least after reading your sheet, Lambda. Both are very well thought out and good milestones, as 3000ths post here and Lambdas route to their comeback.
And I really enjoyed the Ship of Theseus line, I have to look if somebody did this. After WandaVision's finale the ship should be well established in the minds of people.

Edit: Sheesh, I read the reactions for Royds Anne Frank, what a hypocritical shit show. For three sites the thread became twitter. Complaining about Anne Frank, but "Loli Jesus and Loli Hitler are okay", I guess it was 2years ago when Cancel Culture was en vogue

[Kabalisto Koga]

I am disappointed in you, chat
I go to bed monitoring the amount of posts here in the hope of yoinking the 3000th post here and become a legend, I come back and we overshoot by over a dozen. Literal racism against my time zone, smh. (joke of course)
As revenge I request information why there seems to be a campaign against Royd. I have seen the first of the tags of this thread and was wondering about that inside joke.

After reading Anne Frank and Argo, I cant get it out of my head how they could actually fit something like Voyager and Watcher instead. Anne Frank took the world on an emotional journey across her life and I feel like such a special Extra Class would kinda fit an important historical character like her, but without much heroic deeds. She is the embodiment of an emotion, the tragic feelings of those hunted.
And I think if we go the 'the class that watches over/creates a hero, that goes on a journey with them and can summon heroes as aid', Argo actually fits that pretty spot-on now that I think about it, at least after reading your sheet, Lambda. Both are very well thought out and good milestones, as 3000ths post here and Lambdas route to their comeback.
And I really enjoyed the Ship of Theseus line, I have to look if somebody did this. After WandaVision's finale the ship should be well established in the minds of people.

Delrey there was the Anne Frank profile of Royd which caused the perhaps greatest controvers during my time here . And as Realcasually mntioned it i think your Forreigner contest servant was also somebit lets say delicate .

Also to Comeback at the contest you said you Approach the persian myths in a different direction , which profile and servant have you in planning ? And About the religions the conept started as i made my Baal profile were the Israelitic God has conspired againsth the other Gods and that the Religious rules of the abrahamitic religions are means to weaken the power of all other Gods . Like i said once before to Fortuna do i think that the understanding of demonic beings is Christo centric falsified as i have the Theory that the Demons of the Goetia are the corrupted depictions of the originall CAnaanitic Gods . Also am i curious what you think of my Baal servant Delrey i would be interested of your oppinion

besides i am thinking the pillar designs of Grand order somewhat lazy .

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[Kabalisto Koga]

Collapse2 basically acts like collapse except collapse turns the text in the brackets into what people see initially while collapse2 turns the text between the brackets into what people see initially. If you're doing a bunch of modifications like changing text sizes or fonts to the text you're hiding, you do collapse. If you just want to keep the hidden text uniform while being able to modify the initial text, you use collapse2.

ExampleOne ExampleTwo

You could also wrap modifications around the collapse to change the text in the brackets and the add specifications to the text between the brackets to keep them from changing as well. You can examine this text if you want to see it for yourself.

ExampleOne ExampleTwo

That sort of thing could have helped the fact that your Description, Class Skills, Personal Skills, and NP all have very tiny initial text. While you wouldn't be able to do everything you usually do or what you did to the hidden text, you could have at least made it bigger. Or, are those really tiny pictures?
Collapse3 would've just been for the NP as, when you click on Collapse3, the text doesn't change back if you click again, which would solve the issue with it flipping when you want to open the spoiler text inside.

Example3



Disappointing, but understandable.

Quite the paradox indeed.



Did I set that bar? I thought world-0 did when he opened my eyes to the possibilities with Mercadier. Dagonet was just my attempt to implement the idea with my own flair.

Koga: FL would tell him off, saying she didn't do it for him, and that his pride means little when it was demons that abandoned her. Mila would likely hear that and need to be stopped from trying to rip out his throat because, as FL said, she was abandoned by them, and, while Mila happy it led to her meeting FL, it's still something that clearly bothers her.

Anne Frank: But if she's Miss Fortune, then who is narrator?

Jiao Yu: Time for the boom boom.
Chapter in Art of War, huh? Man, that just makes me think of Tsung Zhu. Someone must have turned him into a Servant. Let me check. ...Wait, what? First William Wallace, and now Tsung freaking Zhu?! Am I missing something?

Argo: When they say your girl is as big as a barge and you be like "Yeah. What about it?"
I need to make an inanimate object Servant sometime. Something with this kind of style. Guess it's going on the list.

so that are the differences , to be honest i had Always probles with the collapses Maybe do i try it . Thanks for that aswell your answer.

They still are, but that's no big deal as I assume they're just Lu Bu's from FGO. Though, the description text probably didn't need that treatment.



Don't compliment me! *jumps out window*

I can get that. I mentioned Iskander's Shadow, and it's the same situation for her. We don't know what happened to her after Alex was killed, but she definitely must have done something.

Also, weird Servant coming down the line.

At first Dont Jump ! your no Mario nor Luigi .

THis is similar to many charackters that until a certain Point in history their deeds and lives are well recorded to then loss trace and leave only assumtions of their whereabouts similar like to cerain weapons or other significant objects . Or the literary nd philosophic works of many Antique Scholars and Philosophers were 2/3 of all work are lost which left open the Question ,Where are they and how can so many vanish without a trace ??

[DelRey]

Koga: Right now I do have indeed a somewhat Persian Servant cooking up, but them being from Persia is not the theme. Still, before I started out here I was looking into Persian Mythology and started on an event concept for Persia and have three sheets stored somewhere, but back then I misinterpreted the format of skills, so it stays in the back for a while.
I had no plans on Ahura Mazda, but when I come back to it, AM will likely be a Watcher and Zarathustra is for me...a overzealous, good at heart weirdo. Sry I cant take a man seriously who wanks in a sea and expects to create three great saviors and shit. At least that is what I remembered of him. (No I will not read your Zara sheet, Koga, I for now I wont read any Zara sheet at all). I think other aspects of their mythology is much more interesting and vague concept for this pantheon can perhaps be seen in my Daena sheet.

And yeah my Hitler was delicate, but the discussion was weird in the first place. I wont accept pseudo-moralic criticism for making a sheet that basically denotes him as too inhuman for humanity, making him weak and suffering from his evil sins during life through his victims when Summer Hitler and attractive general Hitler is floating around here with no backlash. Royd is of Jewish descend and I am German, we knew what we were doing with our controversial takes. He depicted her like a teenie girl, admittedly a bit wanked and not always true to her character, but honest. He couldve gone the other route and claimed it was all fake like one stupid theory i heard about floating around in brown corners of my country. Instead he fused her with Hope itself, a bittersweet connection
Some people are just blindly upset at things because it is ingrained in them.

Rant over

go vote in the contest threat y'all, my vote created a tie between the 2nd and 3rd place

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This too was predicted by the Dead Sea Scrolls

This made me laugh more than it should