Create-A-Servant 3

[RoydGolden]

So i just noticed something
The CaS2 Compilation here on page 1 is taken from the last update of the original CaS2 thread, right?
But the last update was on page 699...in a thread that has 858 pages...
There have to be dozens of 'forgotten' sheets there, thats actually kinda sad.
So the completionist inside me would offer himself to over time compile them so CaS2 is truly complete.
But problem is that King of Padoru is MIA since February. What is the policy here when a mod can edit those posts?

I don't think that's true. My Lancer Melehan was the last sheet in the old thread (page 857) and it is included in the compilation here. So I think everything was compiled and not just from the last update.

[DelRey]

I don't think that's true. My Lancer Melehan was the last sheet in the old thread (page 857) and it is included in the compilation here. So I think everything was compiled and not just from the last update.

Fuck, you are right. Seems like while comparing I mistook the compilation in CaS2 as the compilation here in CaS3. Dammit, dont mind me, it ist just me, an idiot with my compilation of 700-730.



with the next milestone here I will ready the list for CaS3 and the Contest for Leftovers.

[NittyGritty]

That gif is perfect

[DelRey]

anyways, i started this unneccessary voyage because I wanted to add or now have added Beasts to my Special Class Compendium and am now interested in them a bit more.
So we have 4 confirmed sins associated with certain individuals for sure
Pity - Goetia, Regression - Tiamat, Pleasure - Mara/Kiara, Comparison - Cath Palug

So in theory we have 3 unknown sins left, but according to the wiki there was somewhere mentioned there is a Beast of Shame and Koyanskaya is Beast of Treasuring. There are only 7, right?
So only 1 left
Any ideas what Beast of 666 could be? and it is now parted in L and R, what could they be?

[Comun]

Something related to indulgence, going by the themes and keywords presented with Nero.

[Master_Therion]

Maybe there are multiple sins but only 7 can become true sins? Also, are the sins related to Nischze (forgive me butchering the name, writing on phone)? I am curious since I am interest in the Beast class
Also, to be relly really short, one half smells really good while the other stinks. So i assume one half is the whore of babylon, aka possibly Nero rider while Beast 666 is one of the beasts of revelation (there are 3, but cant say if its the beast of the sea or the beast ridden by the whore, since it uses characterisics from both.)

[DelRey]

Because the original name is Beast of Revelations I thought it is perhaps related to 'reliance' like not independent, but that could be attributed to another variant that could become a Beast II.
idk about indulgence. It is similar to Decadence in concept and I think that is related to Beast of Comparison.

Therion, you mean Nietzsche?
idk much about him, but he was fervently against religion, specifically Christianity and thought they brought sin into the world. That can kinda fit with the reliance on gods aspect again, I feel like that is part of Beast II of Regressions domain. But the notes on beast 666 can kinda fit when it can be associated with pros and cons of gods or something

Last Beast that dealt in those aspects was from Fortuna who went with Escapism, but I think now that is part of II or III

any other potential concept ideas?

[Master_Therion]

In a way, the Beasts follow a concept just like lostbelts: decadence, stagnation, the infinite road humans once had coming to an end. The Beasts love is one that stops the evolution of one self. Goetias pity removes their finite being and discards their infinite possibilities, Tiamats regression removes human history, Beast III pleasure drowns them in infinite love/pleasure that destroys their own self. Althought I cannot say for sure about Comparasion, i might assume it is related to envy, unable to become a better person and only wishing for anothers propriety without actually fighting for it.

[DelRey]

interesting comparison.

i thought about the concepts surrounding judgement, it is a popular theme for beasts here. prejudice, prevarication, stuff like that, something under the umbrella of 'assigning value', but i feel like that is connected to Pity, arrogance, ignorance, etc.
but that thinking edges on Comparison too, so idk. Nasuverse thinking can blur lines if one thinks too hard about them

Edit: I think it could be that Vitch and whore of babylon are L and R of VI
tamamo and nero are both red herrings in their Extra story and "lingering scent" fits with the skill description of seven crowns apparantly and "noxious gas" and Koyanskaya can probably fit as well. And her golden grail skill reads " this grail symbolizes the riches of the world, which inverted the words of Christ of “Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth.", connecting it with the beast of treasuring koyanskaya

[Master_Therion]

I speculate Beast VI is related to worship/reliance, with one halve relying on false worship while the other relying on absolute freedom from any higher power. While one shuns mankind from possible evolution due to lack of freedom and misguided by a false authority, the second destroy mankind due to having no way to control, similar to a child who never learns to become a successful adult due to lack of discipline in their life.

EDIT: That is also a good theory, DelRey, although does that mean in that case Beast of 666 is not an half of Beast VI along with Nero? Would you say it is a different Beast or just a part of rider Nero?

[DelRey]

I speculate Beast VI is related to worship/reliance, with one halve relying on false worship while the other relying on absolute freedom from any higher power. While one shuns mankind from possible evolution due to lack of freedom and misguided by a false authority, the second destroy mankind due to having no way to control, similar to a child who never learns to become a successful adult due to lack of discipline in their life.

EDIT: That is also a good theory, DelRey, although does that mean in that case Beast of 666 is not an half of Beast VI along with Nero? Would you say it is a different Beast or just a part of rider Nero?

worship and reliance, domination and subservience, something like that. I also saw there is a theory somewhere that the beasts are fashioned after the Qlipoth. That is why V will probably have 2 versions too, so they mimic the 10 rings, but idk about that theory yet

i am reading through reddit and some say Nero is one part of VI, while others say she is part of it, the 'rider' of it. the whole thing is strange. But it was said early on Amaterasu is a beast candidate, but not a beast. TV is a Beast, but not really rn in the story. All really strange, many hints and teases in different mats and quotes, including FGO. So even when VII is beaten, there are still the other beasts to be fought.

[Lady Vanatos]

Didn't First Hassan mention in Babylonia off hand that one of the Evils of Humanity was related to Shame/Regret?

[BnEl15]

I thought the other half of Beast VI is the one Arthur is hunting in the Proto-verse? Or is that a different Beast?

[Lambda-Nu]

The long-term policy is that they can't be bothered so some willing regular who WON'T give up within a year is made OP instead.

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That said, if you give me a ready-to-post list I will of course edit it into the existing one.

If you wouldn't mind, I would like to volunteer to take over Padoru's spot as OP.

[DelRey]

I thought the other half of Beast VI is the one Arthur is hunting in the Proto-verse? Or is that a different Beast?

Yes, that thing is one half, but what i understand is that it was just this blobby mass because it was missing its Rider, which would be Nero in der Rider class.

So a two-parter half of beast that is blob and nero and the other half is Vitch. That is my theory right now.
And i felt the whole time that the Beast of Treasuring is too weird of a concept that it could be not a half of a whole concept. But the weird thing is that she mentions she has yet to get a number. So the process of becoming a Beast is bit more complicated than i thought.
I can imagine LB 6.5 will deal with something like that

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If you wouldn't mind, I would like to volunteer to take over Padoru's spot as OP.

I second that, iirc the decision who would lead this thread was between the two anyways.
My idea would be a puppet Account that shares ownership with two people. If one stops caring the other one can still do their duty and name a new partner

[The Fair Tyrant]

and the other half is Vitch

I thought Vitch was confirmed as a nascent Beast V, not Beast VI?

[DelRey]

No, she herself said she is yet to receive a number and a sin

[BnEl15]

Vitch's battle opening animation has a pair of eyes(?) that look *vaguely* like a "V", so I guess that's where people get the Vitch = Beast V theory. Of course, that could just be a pair of eyes, a "V" that stands for "Vitch", or another, completely unrelated foreshadowing. Who knows at this point.

[Kabalisto Koga]

No, she herself said she is yet to receive a number and a sin

As i have now took a glimps over the phone here am i wonder if there are just seven beasts ? Aren't they just like other classes for each number more then one candidate? And did you have seen my visitor message ?

Ps at all : I hope you have a good time! If not i wish you one !

[DelRey]

there are certainly not infinite amount of beasts, but there are more than 7
But we have 7 sins period.

i see everything, koga. Just nothing to say to it. I will wait until the product is finished.