Page 144 of 144 FirstFirst ... 4494134139142143144
Results 2,861 to 2,869 of 2869

Thread: Create-A-Servant 3

  1. #2861
    Wyrd oft nereð unfǽgne eorl, þonne his ellen déah... Skull's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2014
    Location
    Kernow
    Posts
    6,004
    Blog Entries
    5
    Will the real King Arthur please stand up? (I kid, I kid)
    For real though, I found this on an old memory stick and thought why not post it.
    ----

    Saber

    "Regardless of name or title, my holy sword will cut down all of your enemies, do not fret Master. That said, I do hope I survive this time. What? No I didn't say anything, don't sweat it..."



    True Name: Artúr mac Áedán
    Epithet: "The Tragic Prince of Dál Riata"
    Region: Brtiain (6th Century AD)
    Hidden Attribute: Human
    Alignment: Lawful Good
    Likes: Honour, Sailing
    Dislikes: Maeatae, Prophecies
    Talents: Stubborness, Oration
    Natural Enemy: Saint Columba

    Parameters
    STR: (B) END: (B) AGI: (C) MGI: (C) LCK: (E) NP: (B)

    Character
    Saber takes the form of Artúr mac Áedán, the prince of Dál Riata and general of its military forces under his father's reign. A young man full of wonder and courage, he would not back down from a challenge and resent the idea of giving up even when it came to the prophecy that declared he would die young in battle. This great stubbornness can give Artúr a more childish demeanour than a soldier and prince should otherwise have but he would just laugh it off saying that life's to short to sweat the small stuff. That said, he does genuinely show respect to those above his position or skill, though if their attitude is bad then Artúr's own sarcastic streak will start to leak out. Incarnated into the modern day, Artúr is endlessly fascinated by the changes in the era and when not challenging strong Servants, he can be found playing games in the arcade, binging at fast food joints and even singing along at Idol Concerts.

    His Wish upon the Grail? Because he does not consider his death to have been in vain, he would not use it on himself but rather wish to avert the tragic deaths of his younger brothers Eochaid Find and Domangart who also died in conquests conducted in their father's name.


    Skills

    Class Skills

    Magic Resistance - (B)
    The protection granted against magical effects. Differing from the Resistance effect that merely rejects Magical Energy, this ability cancels the spells altogether. As a soldier who lived in an age rife with monsters and mages, Artúr naturally has a high tolerance against magecraft. Now as a Servant, Artúr's body will automatically cancel out spells with a chant below three verses. Even if he is targeted by High-Thaumaturgy and Greater Rituals, it is difficult for him to be affected tremendously.

    Riding - (C)
    A Class Skill of Rider and Saber class Servants, denoting the ability to ride mounts and vehicles. Getting around the diverse lands of Dál Riata was no easy feat even for a soldier like Artúr and would often required a skilled hand at both riding a horse over the highlands or sailing a vessel through the choppy waters to reach the chain of islands that comprise the kingdom. Now as a Servant, Artúr can flawlessly manage beasts and vehicles if they have received the proper training and adjustments. Most vehicles and animals can be handled with above average skill. However, he cannot ride the likes of Phantasmal Species such as Monstrous Beasts.

    Personal Skills

    Charisma - (B)
    A composite Skill consisting of a person's charm as well as the natural talent to command or unify an army or country. As both a prince and a general of the forces of Dál Riata, Artúr generates a certain amount of gravitas that convinces even those otherwise disagreeable to do what he asks. This reached its zenith at the Battle of Miathi where even after he was fatally wounded, Artúr commanded his men to fight on in a losing battle which then eventually won. As a Servant, others in Artúr's party receive a Plus Modifier when following his orders and even his Master will obtain a small boost when doing the same.

    Identical Stranger - (A)
    The unusual case of having an uncanny resemblance to an otherwise unconnected figure from history. Because of a number of parallels existing in their legends, a theory proposing Artúr to be one of many identities forming the basis of "King Arthur" persists in the public consciousness. Now incarnated into a Servant, when another person looks at Artúr, they will be convinced that what they are actually looking at is King Arthur even if they knew either Artúr or the real Artoria in real life, until they hear his True Name or him invoke the name of his Noble Phantasm.

    Unyielding Will - (B)
    A Skill that represents one's extremely firm will that never yields to any sort of agony, despair or circumstances. Artúr was an extremely stubborn yet determined person who refused to submit to his fate of dying in battle and would fight on no matter the injuries he sustained. As a result he possesses significant resistance against physical and mental damage. However, said resistance will not hold against attacks that aim at beguiling others - such as illusions.


    Noble Phantasm

    Claidheamh Fáil
    The Redstone Sword of Destiny

    [Type: Anti-Unit], [Rank: B], [Maximum Range: 2-3 Metres], [Maximum Number of Targets: 1-2 Units]

    The ceremonial sword once used by the founder-king of Dál Riata, Fergus Mór who took it along with him when he defected from Ireland. It is a Holy Sword said to hold a fragment of the Jacob Stone embedded in the hilt. Áedán gave it to his son in the vain hope that its power would avert the tragic fate that Saint Columba predicted for Artúr.

    Despite its original intention for use in coronations, the sword is still a finely crafted work which easily cuts through flesh and bone in the right hands. But the sword's true threat lies in borrowing the power of the Jacob Stone. By channelling the stone's Holy energy, the blade gains a red aura around it and when Artúr swings the sword in this state he tries to forcibly "change" the probability of the attack's success so that if the target fails the LCK Check and/or do not have the required magical defences then space will warp so that even if they dodged they were still hit or if they blocked the blade will still cut through. This can also be used defensively to ensure Artúr blocks attacks that would otherwise be too strong or fast for him to react. However to channel the power of the Jacob Stone requires a lot of energy and Artúr cannot maintain it for more than three minutes at a time.


    Lore
    Long ago in a distant land there existed Dál Riata, it was formed from Gaelic nobles who left Northern Ireland to set up their own kingdom in what is now western Scotland. During the latter half of the sixth century, the kingdom was ruled by Áedán mac Gabráin who lead it through its "golden age". After ascending to the throne, Áedán took a British wife and had many sons, the eldest of which was called Artúr.

    Whilst Artúr was young, his father received a visit from none other than Saint Columba who was on a pilgrimage from Ireland to spread Christianity to the heathen Scots. As he was giving hospitality Columba, Áedán decided to test the Saint's credibility by asking which of the princes would succeed him to the throne. The Saint complied and used his prophetic powers to see into the future and told King Áedán that the youngest son Eochaid Buide would be the one to be crowned, the reason being that his elder brothers would all die in battle before the end of the king's reign.

    Despite the ominous prediction, Artúr continued on his noble path by becoming a soldier under his father and his skills allowed him to rapidly rise in the ranks to where he was leading the forces of Dál Riata on the eastern frontier against the aggressive Picts who wished to stop the spread of the kingdom's rise. Towards the end of the sixth century, the day of fate came when the final battle between Dál Riata and the Maeatae occurred, who were a tribe merged from the collective of southern Picts and Northern Brits who fled the Roman occupation. The battle of Miathi as it came to be known, was even at first with casualties on both sides. But Artúr decided he could not take sitting on the side-lines any longer and disobeyed his father's orders and charged into battle. Artúr took on everyone who came at him, cutting them down but gradually taking his own fair share of hits as the battle wore on until he reached the enemy's main camp. Fatigue and injuries slowed down Artúr who could not avoid taking several critical strikes through his chest. But even with blades sticking out of him, he let out a roar and told his men not to give up hope as whoever died today would go arm in arm with Artúr to paradise as brothers. The soldiers of Dál Riata emboldened by their leader's dying plea charged onwards and overcame the Maeatae who were crushed and brought victory to Áedán at the cost of his son.

    Because of the heroic sacrifice of Artúr mac Áedán, "Artúr" and the various alternate spellings became very popular in northern Britain afterwards which led to the name nowadays known as "Arthur". Whether this had a hand in shaping the figure known as King Arthur is unknown and the true identity of the mythic figure is shrouded in the fog of history...


    Relationships
    Artoria/Arthur - "Oh, if only I had a fraction of the skill and power you possess, my fate might have turned out differently."

    Fergus/Cú/Diarmuid/Fionn - "Ah, if it isn't the heroes of my ancestral land. I'd more than welcome a chance to test my mettle against you guys."

    Medb - "Bleh. It's because of people like you that my ancestors left Ireland."

    Mordred - "...?"

    Scáthach - "Even though the Isle of Skye was within our borders, my father always told me never to set foot in there. I wonder, are you really as scary as they say?"

    Ywain - "Owain? Is that you?"


    Creator's Notes
    I don't actually remember how this Sheet came to be. I think I was researching the origins of Morgan le Fay which lead me to Muirgen nic Áedán which in turn lead me to Artúr.

    By the by, there is no real such thing as Claidheamh Fáil. I (kind of) made it up sadly, but it just wouldn't be a Saber-face without a magic sword. XD

    The FaceClaim is Flynn Scifo from Tales of Vesperia, mainly because that was exactly who I thought of first when I saw Proto-Arthur's design for the first time.
    "Here's a bangin lil' tune about takin' on The Man!"


  2. #2862
    "My form has changed. I must turn to different prey. ...That's not new to me. It might be a bigger change, but if anything, it felt less painful this time. I'm an Assassin now. And I'll do what I must."

    Class: Assassin

    Appearance


    True Name: The Champawat Tiger

    Alignment: True Neutral

    Source: Historical fact

    Place of Origin: Associated with the Kumaon area of India, particularly Champawat, though her first attacks on humans were in the Rupal area of western Nepal in the Himalayas

    Parameters
    STR: B

    END: C

    AGI: A

    MGI: D

    LCK: B

    NP: B


    Height: 265 centimetres

    Weight: 160 kilograms

    Likes: Simple living, keeping fed

    Dislikes: People with large egos

    Talent: Adapting quickly to necessity

    Natural Enemy: Heroic Spirits in general

    Attribute: Human

    Armament: Fangs and claws

    Catalyst: Replicas of the missing parts of her canines, as long as they're copies made out of something other than bone

    Class Skills
    Obfuscation B+

    Hides one's presence as a Servant. Suitable for spying. It is possible to disappear and become extremely difficult to be detected. The Rank of Obfuscation drops considerably when preparing to attack.

    As she became used to routinely travelling large distances at high speed while staying hidden to avoid humans, Assassin's Stealth checks don't receive any penalties related to movement speed.


    Personal Skills
    Animal Communication B+

    As a Heroic Spirit based on a tigress, she is capable of communicating normally with humans and Servants, but also retains the capability of communicating with other tigers: moreover, the Grail has extended this so she can better communicate with other non-human animals as well to various degrees, though always better than nearly any human could communicate with them. Still, tigers remain the non-human animals she understands the best.

    To Have Conquered The Day B

    Somewhat akin to the 'Bravery' Skill. Assassin carried out the vast majority of her attacks against her victims in broad daylight, which was practically unheard of in all previous cases of tiger attacks on humans. The area she had made her territory, much wider than those of most Bengal tigers and more akin in size to that of a Siberian tiger, was paralysed by fear, with people often refusing to leave their homes, listening fearfully to her mighty roars from the forest. Her lack of fear from then persists now that she is a Heroic Spirit, and so does the ability to induce paralysing terror into her foes.


    Noble Phantasm
    Kyānā'inaharū: Memory of the Once-Broken Fangs

    Type: Anti-Unit

    Rank: B

    Range: 1

    Max Targets: 1 person

    This Noble Phantasm represents Assassin's fangs and claws, including the two right canines that had been broken off (the upper one halfway, the lower one entirely) and had forced her to adapt to hunting humans since she was no longer capable of hunting her usual prey. Though the two broken fangs are restored to her as a Heroic Spirit, this Noble Phantasm represents the need for adaptation by giving Assassin the ability to pick up new Skills as she goes, in a manner somewhat similar to the 'Imperial Privilege' Skill; in Assassin's case, picking up these Skills requires Luck checks, which will be easier to pass the more the Skill can be called a direct opposite to one of her opponents' Skills.

    Moreover, her former specialisation in hunting humans still presents itself in the form of being able to momentarily seal off Noble Phantasms of Heroic Spirits based on humans without a 'Divinity' Skill. To do so, Assassin needs to strike one, then pass a Luck check with a high base threshold and compared to a Luck check from the opponent in case the opponent's Luck check is higher than the base threshold. The duration of the seal depends on the result of these Luck checks, but usually translates to somewhere between 5 and 20 minutes, though outliers in either directions may appear. Each strike can only seal one Noble Phantasm at a time, chosen at random, and further strikes can be used for a chance to lengthen the duration of a random seal if all Noble Phantasms of the target are already sealed somehow. If a Noble Phantasm represented by an object or creature is sealed, they disappear for the seal's duration and reappear afterwards wherever the other Servant usually keeps them.


    Lore
    At an estimated 436 deaths caused, the Champawat Tiger was a Bengal tigress that became responsible for the highest amount of human deaths of any tiger in recorded history. Her first attacks on humans began in the Rupal area of western Nepal in the Himalayas, in which she's estimated to have killed around 200 people, but she was eventually chased across the Indian border in a beat organised to by the Nepalese army. Her hunting tactics became considerably different from other Bengal tigers', with her taking to move much larger distances in a single day to avoid humans and establishing a much wider territory in the Kumaon area of India, more akin to a Siberian tiger's in size. Moreover, the vast majority of her attacks on humans were during the day, which was basically unprecedented. Though she terrorised the region and essentially ground nearly all on-foot movement in it to a halt for a time, she was shot to death near Champawat in 1907 by hunter Jim Corbett, helping establish his reputation as his time's foremost hunter of big cats who had taken to feed on humans. After her death, it was found out that her upper right canine was broken in half and her lower right canine was broken right to the bone. This was theorised to be the result of an old gunshot. Her broken fangs probably made it impossible for her to hunt her usual prey, so she began to attack humans instead. Other than the broken fangs, she appeared to have been physically healthy and likely somewhere between 10 to 12 years old at the time of her death.


    Personality
    Assassin fearlessly hunts what she must to survive. She holds no grudges, but shows no mercy. She tends to treat everyone, Masters included, as equals who happen to have ended up on the same or opposite sides, and to dislike those who treat others as inferior. She's not particularly friendly in an active manner, but she also won't try to rebuff others on purpose. She has an uncommon sense of humour, not in the sense that she makes bad jokes or finds good jokes unfunny, but in the sense that most jokes initally just confuse her more often than not; so, the enjoyment she derives from them mostly consists in the eureka moment that she reaches when someone explains them to her in a manner she can understand (typically an arduous matter) or she actually manages to unravel them on her own.


    Notes
    Technically fits the current Monthly contest but doesn't feel like it'd make a particularly good entry, especially since the scope there is much broader; I didn't make this sheet for the contest anyway, though, so I won't be entering it in there.
    Last edited by Serra; Yesterday at 06:02 PM.

  3. #2863
    死徒二十七祖 The Twenty Seven Dead Apostle Ancestors Kabalisto Koga's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2018
    Location
    The H/eart/h of Europe
    Age
    25
    Gender
    Male
    Posts
    1,203
    Blog Entries
    3
    Quote Originally Posted by DelRey View Post
    tell me when it is ready, then perhaps.
    Like i said back when Fortuna made his Imhotep, there are enough gods from space with the southamerican pantheon, the greek mecha gods and perhaps one other. I know I am the "Foreigner Guy" here, but I am actually a "Deity Guy" and I like the more earthly approach to gods in the Nasuverse context. What I would do tho is to say that Egyptians were some who were the most aware of Outer Gods, obviously through Nyarlathotep, but also through the common theory that the god of the foreign star or whatever the current FGO villain was called is actually the egyptian representation of Sirius - Sothis/Sopdet. That is something i can agree with, because what i read here and there is something that oddly fits what they r doing in FGO.

    Why I am relearning it? Because I am working on a Triad of Servants of which 2 are in the conceptual phase and I cannot begin working on the actual servants before I have a firm grasp of the mythology and how I can throw in the Nasuverse Bullshit to to make it consistent and interesting enough. So far I have found the most important concepts of Egyptian mythology; 'Time', 'Name' and 'Vision' and have a rough idea what Aten is in my version, what a 'Pillar of Light' in Egypt could be (like Rhongom) and at least a plan on finding how to juggle the 5 cosmogonies present in Ancient Egypt.
    But it is a pain in the butt so far, balancing over 3000 years of mythology is a task, I understand how egyptian servants are so rare in FGO
    If you plan to Research About the Cosmology of the Egyptian Cosmology i suggest you look About These three Terms :Kekau-Semau, Reteh-Qabet and Sereq-Hetit as These three are describing aspects of the Space but can also be used for other Things the threee are though german wiki sites but i dont think that should be a Problem .

    About the Counterpart of Rhongomyniad have i thought on that Seths spear might be a Counterpart on the offenside side as he were the Deity of the Forreign world and he were that he was aside the Antagonist wer he also the Guardian of Egypt as he defeated the beast Yam which is actually a Being of the Canaanitic Mythospehre also where a interesting fact that the Pharao was the Ambassador of two Gods that ruled through the Pharaoh ,Horus/RA at the centre and Seth at the periphery .So did i thought on a "DArk Counterpart" a chaotic Version as there must be to anything a balancing force like no Light without Shadow . like a Pillar of Darkness . and you forgot the beside three mentioned is the Flow of Nature Energy and Soul are also important concepts .

    Also could you give us some hints on your servants perhaps i or others can help you ?
    When you wake a Dragon in his Lair...





  4. #2864
    Arthurian Sheetamatic Universe! Morg van Destro's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2020
    Age
    20
    Gender
    Male
    Posts
    248
    Blog Entries
    1
    Artúr mac Áedán: Arthur 2: Electric Boogaloo-now with more fiber but less nutrition.

    The Champawat Tiger: Sienna deserved character development.
    I'm surprised she doesn't have Aptitude for Slaughter in some form, giving her advantage against humans, but it's whatever. I do like To Have Conquered the Day, though.

  5. #2865
    The King of Cinders Cursed by Fortuna's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2020
    Location
    Undiscovered Lostbelt
    Age
    26
    Gender
    Male
    Posts
    108
    Blog Entries
    23
    Quote Originally Posted by Serra View Post
    I hadn't considered the Faker angle. Interesting. I don't vibe with the Luck checks for this specific Servant however, though I feel like there's probably some for which it could work. It's probably easier to write out as Skills what this made me think rather than paraphrasing, so: how about adding the following skills but leaving the rest untouched?

    Personal Skills
    Double Class E-
    Berserker possesses both the Berserker class as his primary class and the Faker class as his secondary class at the same time. However, the latter is subordinated to the former, which influences which aspects of the Faker class Berserker is able to effectively attain. This is because Berserker attained the ability to qualify as a Berserker much earlier than the ability to qualify as a Faker: his qualifications for the latter were attained once he declared himself to be the Wrath of God during his rebellion against Felipe II of the House of Habsburg, those for the former had already been attained after the episode of Esquival's murder, if not even earlier.

    For I Am Attila (Irregular) —

    Though many have been referred to as the Scourge of God, Attila remains as the quintessential example of the term. Most had this title bestowed upon them: not so for Berserker, however, who choose to take it on intentionally. In forming Berserker's Saint Graph, the Grail sensed Berserker's wish to draw a parallel between himself and Attila on purpose and, while determining his Skills, checked how much the overlap between him and Attila applies when we look at their actions.

    Because of this Skill, Berserker is able to qualify for the true version of the Scourge of God Skill, although at a lower Rank, since it is extremely close to the Tactics skill for which he would've already qualified, and the additional brutality implied is sufficiently filled by the destruction and massacres Berserker spread in his life.

    As Berserker never had the Sword of Mars, he does not qualify for the true form of the Photon Ray Noble Phantasm or its stronger variant, but the broader definition of the base form of Photon Ray as 'piercing attack in which the user channels mana as they charge' was not out of his wheelhouse as a Berserker. Therefore, he was able to attain a (False) version of the Skill, though it is merely a pale imitation of the real thing.

    Berserker doesn't have access to Altera's Civilization Encroachment at all because that level of subconscious reality warping would've been too far out of his wheelhouse as a Berserker from the 16th century. Similarly, he does not have access to her Divinity, either; he lacks anything similar to the Crest of the Star, and he cannot have any Rank in the Natural Body Skill due to it being directly in contrast with his life story, since his body was not at all ideal, perfect, and unchanging from birth to death and he even ended up acquiring a limp in battle.


    I feel like I still don't know enough about the 'verse to fully comprehend the event, but this does seem like an interesting idea.
    The skills look good, however at the end of the day, don't take my word for it, it's your sheet/character. If you feel like they fit or that you like them then feel free to add them, if you don't then don't. The final decision rests with you.

    AS for the idea, yeah that's partly why I dropped it or put it on hold, it's rather complicated and generally isn't something which I think everyone could either fully enjoy or understand and the main premise could trun people off due to it being inherently somber and reflecting on themes like death, morality, running out of time, spite, fear of forgetting or losing something about yourself (or becoming someone else), and would generally explore ideas and things we generally don't always see in Ritsuka (as he is stated to understand good and evil, yet not reject that which is evil) in him actually being replaced and actually having to deal with the knowledge of what Artemis/Diana did*. All of the stuff below makes me hesitant to do it as it really gets into a bunch of complicated affairs on how saint graphs work, the throne of heroes, humanity's perception (and may not even be fully canon to how Nasu's world operates), and such which make it fairly hard to understand unless you know all that stuff.

    * it's played off like this, at a basic level Ritsuka knows that Diana/Artemis is capable of very, very amoral things, she killed a bunch of innocent young girls for a comment their mother made, she has had hunters who come across her bathing killed by their own hunting dogs, she was probably involved in driving people mad including Caligula; However that's at an instinctual level, the Artemis he sees and interacts with is generally a goofball and rarely ever shows any of those darker tendencies, so there's a disconnect between his knowledge and his experience (and in Caligula's case he's rarely sane enough to express his horror and anger at what he has become and those like Nero don't quite come to the point of actively chronicling how nightmarish what happened to him is). Once he actually sees a case of just how dark Artemis is then he is far less likely and able to trust her as that disconnect is shattered and this serves as a real reminder that she has done a bunch of very amroal things and doesn't really ever show many signs of either being sorry or caring all that much (something which drives a wedge between him and Artemis/Orion and which he has to deal with mentally). It also serves to raise the moral question of should he even try to understand, trust, or befriend beings like gods as this is a very real reminder that even the nicest of them are not human and don't really understand or care about human values or lives most of the time (and even when they do that is because they have human vessels not because they fully care themselves). It's a bit of an unanswered question and one which especially after Tiamat a being who loved humanity nearly destroyed them is one which he has to think fairly deeply about to find an answer (which amounts to even if they aren't human and they may not understand that doesn't mean I can't try to understand them and value their help even in spite of what their past or motives might be). Plus as mentioned it does partly end on a downer ending as Camilla does flat out die she cannot be summoned as Faker or Avenger ever again in the entirety of the FGO timeline as that version of the throne of heroes purged any remnants of "her" form her own legend thus leaving her as literally what amounts to another version of Atalanta (either as lancer or Archer).

    I also get the feeling of not feeling satisfied with sheets as I still have to do a major overhaul of the Kato Kiyomasa sheet I made a while back (heads or tails if I will keep the regional up if/when that's done).

    Quote Originally Posted by Kabalisto Koga View Post
    I personally think that Ernak may have Little foundation as Heroic spirit as About him or dengizich is almost Nothing known .
    Ture enough, but on the same token what did we know of Iskander's shadow other than that he may have had a body double, part of having no information means that really you can do a whole bunch with the idea if you want.


    Quote Originally Posted by Kabalisto Koga View Post
    yeah fiction and history could or can be diffeernt Worlds . About Genghis Khan had i the idea that through his sacrifices and that he was venerated by the Mongolic citizens aswell through that he saw himself as the representation of the Mongolic High and sky God Tengri be a Manmade God as the Monghols aswell the Chinese world still would have high Mysteries and that i speculated that in such World parts were the Age of Faeries like that in Britain to Arthorias time stil some MAgical Beings roaming in the World and Magecraft had most likely still Ancient strenght .like were know only when in the NNordic Scandinavia world the Age of Gods ended ,but what were the Events in the other spehres like were during the Chaotic Time in Japan were Shutent/Ibuki Doji s Onis roamed and ravaged and Raikou san and theothers .
    Yeah there's a lot of messy information regarding timelines and stuff for the world, that's why I don't generally like to try and use the idea of nasu's proposed idea of the age of the gods ended at 700 BCE (as we have been shown that in the case of Scandinavia it actually ended sooner than that in 1000 BCE*) although remnants of that era clearly lingered in different places. In general there is a lot of stuff timeline wise which doesn't make sense or fit well without liberal use of magecraft or clairvoyance to just make pieces fit together so that's one of my main criticisms in general. Personally I don't know much about Mongolian myth, but I think there is a bunch of spiritualism and such red;ated to that, combined with the enitre area often being described as wild and rather natural I have my own ideas about what the gods of that place were (maybe nature spirits or elementals).

    * Although that also raises even more complications as I think it was cited that Siegfried's legend emerged at the 5th or 6th century roughly at the same time as Sigurd's implying they happened at the same time meaning that either Brynhildr slept through Ragnorok itself before getting saved / woken up by Sigurd or that Sigurd's legend happened before Ragnorok did (which would be implied to be the ladder as it's specified that Brynhildr's programming of who she considered beloved is based on Sigurd who in turn is the archetype for heroes to be let into the hall of the fallen for the final battle of Ragnorok [meaning either odin foresaw Sigurd's existence and made him the basis of who does or does not get inducted into the hall of the fallen long before he died or that Sigurd's legend happened before Ragonorok])


    Quote Originally Posted by Kabalisto Koga View Post
    About Karl the Great ,i would put him with the Emporer Constantin and Vladimir the Great as the three Great Saint Kings . One Question beside the famous Saladin after your oppinion hich other Rulers were the greatest Muslimic Rulers ? and About pre-Islamic i will make a Queen Zenobia profile as she is one of the few pre Muslime Arab servant candidate .

    But to Comeback i thiink that in Terms of mystery that in east europe where the mystery much higher then in western Europe (Britain excluded ) as there until the 1800 century the old Religions of Polytheistic Nature were practised like that Lithunia were during the 1300~1400 years a pagan land were Mystery was still strong as i think that the veneration of the populaze prolonged in certain parts of the world nasu verse wise (atleast) the Age of Gods to a extent.
    I'm no expert but here's a few names that probably could be considered Mehmed II, Osman I, Suleiman the 1st / the Magnificent would be a few worth considering as the greatest of the Ottoman rulers. As for mystery in Europe really I would think that but with Nasu it's really hard to say at times as he and his team seems to flip flop between ideas and explanations and rarely is it ever straightforward on getting an answer or something unless they outright tell you (and even then sometimes that answer doesn't always help).


    Quote Originally Posted by DelRey View Post
    Like i said back when Fortuna made his Imhotep, there are enough gods from space with the southamerican pantheon, the greek mecha gods and perhaps one other. I know I am the "Foreigner Guy" here, but I am actually a "Deity Guy" and I like the more earthly approach to gods in the Nasuverse context. What I would do tho is to say that Egyptians were some who were the most aware of Outer Gods, obviously through Nyarlathotep, but also through the common theory that the god of the foreign star or whatever the current FGO villain was called is actually the egyptian representation of Sirius - Sothis/Sopdet. That is something i can agree with, because what i read here and there is something that oddly fits what they r doing in FGO.

    Why I am relearning it? Because I am working on a Triad of Servants of which 2 are in the conceptual phase and I cannot begin working on the actual servants before I have a firm grasp of the mythology and how I can throw in the Nasuverse Bullshit to to make it consistent and interesting enough. So far I have found the most important concepts of Egyptian mythology; 'Time', 'Name' and 'Vision' and have a rough idea what Aten is in my version, what a 'Pillar of Light' in Egypt could be (like Rhongom) and at least a plan on finding how to juggle the 5 cosmogonies present in Ancient Egypt.
    But it is a pain in the butt so far, balancing over 3000 years of mythology is a task, I understand how egyptian servants are so rare in FGO
    I get that, I suppose my biggest qualm with Nasueverse is the fundamental question of "What is a god" is something that never really gets answered, I suppose at a basic level the answer is "something which has divinity and an authority" but really the problem with these answers is that I don't think it ever is explained how a god gets their authority (is it something assigned to them by the planet, is it something they innately have, etc.), or how a being gets divinity is never really been fully dressed or answered (why do beings from alternate dimensions even have divinity here shouldn't their divinity and authority be limited to what dimension they are considered gods in?). Did gods have their authority (and beyond that how does authority even work [I know Nasu has said it basically works as "We can do this because we can", but that doesn't really give an answer to the question or any solid ideas of what it's limits are or aren't, does it have something to do with the root or is it something tied in with different planets, or is it something dependent on the entity in question]) before humans existed or did they only get that when humans first came into being? When did humans even come into being anyways? Did that happen only recently (ala our world's timeline) or have they existed for millennia, are humans even the first sentient species on this world of their type of were their other humanlike beings which existed before us and either died or became gods and we are merely another race which evolved to develop sentience? What even is the history of Gaia (we know dinosaurs existed, but did the ice ages happen, what about the supercontinents?)

    All of these are fundamental questions which really have no good or clear answer as far as I know in the Nasuverse and as such it makes the idea of discussing the existence of gods difficult at best (even without including things like the sefar event in 12000 BCE [which would theoretically occur during the last Ice Age, unless that isn't canon to Nasu's world] and supposedly ended up destroying most of the planet [so was the moon originally part of the earth and beings of the moon originally from the earth [that would explain why the earth and the moon have some level of close relationship with each other], or was the earth much larger and had more layers which were destroyed by Sefar]). I do have some concepts you could use if you like which I thought up a while back, the first was a race of ancient aquatic gods (really highly and powerful elementals who dwelled and lived in the sea) whose civilization began some time before the oxygen catastrophe (of which they were the authors of), but were then defeated and forced back into the sea y other gods during the age of the dinosaurs.

    Even in spite of losing some of their power this was the peak of their civilization as the dwelled in a dimension or plane of existence lying beneath the 3 seaways crossing the North American continent. However with the impact of the meteor which brought a rival civilization in the land slightly to their south and an age of great cold their power began to wane before they suffered greatly under the combined losses of the 3 seaways which held much of their civilization together (causing it to fragment into 3 separate factions, the Northerners (who would later become the Inuit god), the South-easterners (who would then split again later to form the gods of ancient civilization of the Great Lakes and the gods of lost Mississippian civilization), and the westerners who would lose their connection to the sea entirely and become the gods of the Southern-western tribes like the Navajo and such. These entities were highly connected to the land (which all collectively called turtle island [as it originally referred to the island formed by the 3 seaways, but now referred to the content as a whole]) and as such with the decline in mystery and mana so too did their power wane.


    Another idea I had was simply making the Chinese pantheon a race of ancient humans (or rather a group of proto-humans which came before current humans) rather than gods who eventually far surpassed humanity as a whole, but after the impact of the meteor which killed off the dinosaurs they retreated underground and every time a calamity would occur they would then descend underground once again, although they never were exactly the most powerful of beings (compared to the other gods they were more comparable to divine spirits with an authority than true gods, they managed to avoid the sefar event by this means and thus never were involved in such). The Xians actually were a group of which they funded and rivaled with over millennia being viewed as the greatest threat to their civilization (which originated in Mongolia and the regions around such). The entirety of their age of the gods (which encompassed all of modern china) was actually formed from the Jade Emperor (an inherited position held by the strongest candidate from the genetically engineered children of the previous Jade emperor) and his small but powerful faction capturing and defeating other factions (or tribes) and bring them under his rule and power.

    Eventually this collapsed both due to continued warfare with the Xian, the slow breakdown of their own genetic program (as it both showed signs of demising returns and more and more problems cropping up with their Jade emperor's which lead to them starting to develop mental or physical ailments over time or die prematurely, which was only compounding), internal fighting and strife among the region and the betrayal of one of their own (The Yellow Emperor) who rebelled agains his own core faction with the help of 3 other gods and destroyed the "Jade Tomes" (a term used to refer to the genetic systems used to both determine the ideal genetic ratio, mix it with magical energy, artificially create an heir using the current Jade emperor's DNA, and then artificially incubate and raise/program them at an accelerated rate to serve as an heir). This resulting in a series of power struggles between the factions to seat one of their own as a "Jade emperor" (in the lack of any clear heirs), and with other events like the schism between the Shinto and the Chinese faction, the growing power and influence of the Xian and the Indian pantheon to the south, their rule eventually crumbled from both internal and external pressure with any clear structure of ruling and maintaining the age of the gods lost (and thus it began a slow decay into the age of man).


    Also as far as I know the most we have gotten on the Egyptians are Nitocris who suggests they may have had connections or knowledge of lovecraftian stuff, Anubis and his information from Requiem, affirmations of the existence of Horus and Ra from Ozymandias and Nitocris, mentions that they were powerful (as Ozymandius thinks the 10 plagues would have destroyed Egypt if not for the power of the Egyptian gods in Fate Prototype) and that's about it (which is still more than we know about the Slavic deities which is that Chernabog exists). I never heard of the Sothis / Sirus plot idea but I could imagine it being like that as it is initially referred to as the god from another star.




    In space or on earth Wifu still reigns supreme

    PS. I have no idea why I spent 4 hours making this, but I just felt like it, IDK my muse is weird sometimes
    PPS. No offense meant to DelRey or anyone else
    PPPS. WHEN DO I GET MY SWIMSUIT TIAMAT TAKEUCHI?!?!

  6. #2866
    闇色の六王権 The Dark Six Comun's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2018
    Location
    Manaus, Brazil
    Age
    26
    Gender
    Male
    Posts
    2,529
    JP Friend Code
    262.110.454
    Quote Originally Posted by Cursed by Fortuna View Post
    I get that, I suppose my biggest qualm with Nasueverse is the fundamental question of "What is a god" is something that never really gets answered, I suppose at a basic level the answer is "something which has divinity and an authority" but really the problem with these answers is that I don't think it ever is explained how a god gets their authority (is it something assigned to them by the planet, is it something they innately have, etc.), or how a being gets divinity is never really been fully dressed or answered (why do beings from alternate dimensions even have divinity here shouldn't their divinity and authority be limited to what dimension they are considered gods in?).
    I think those questions are already covered enough, mainly by Olympus. A god is an object of human worship, regardless of its origins. A god can be a natural phenomenon assigned a personality by the humans who worshipped it (eg. the Sumerian pantheon), a human reincarnated as a god (Heracles, Quirinus), or a even an worshipped space invader (the Aztec pantheon, the Olympian mechgods). There’re seemingly no restrictions to what can be worshipped into divinity.

    Zeus’ backstory tells that humanity mistook the interstellar ships’ functions for Authorities, making them gain those genuine Authorities when being assigned their human-like personalities and worshipped into the mechgods. This implies the worship comes first and the Authority is a consequence of it.

  7. #2867
    Alright I don't really feel confident in critiquing others' sheets but I must say that I really liked Skull's take on Artúr. The 'Identical Stranger' Skill is a really fun idea, and I love his quote at the start about surviving and the way you picked that faceclaim. Also I probably wouldn't have been able to tell that the Claidheamh Fáil was something you made up yourself without you telling us unless I looked it up and it seems like a cool Noble Phantasm.

    Quote Originally Posted by Morg van Destro View Post
    The Champawat Tiger: Sienna deserved character development.
    I'm surprised she doesn't have Aptitude for Slaughter in some form, giving her advantage against humans, but it's whatever. I do like To Have Conquered the Day, though.
    Thanks! I had considered Aptitude for Slaughter but I was unsure about whether the partial overlap with the NP would've been a good thing or not. I guess I could put in something like this, what do you think?

    Aptitude for Slaughter
    Aptitude for Slaughter (Natural Weapons) B

    Part of Assassin's former specialisation in hunting humans remains crystallised in this Skill. She has learnt humans' weaknesses in a fight and how to pick them off, and as a result is able to deal increased damage to them.


    Another Skill I considered but was unsure whether I should include or not was Instinct. Should I put in something along these lines, too?

    Instinct
    Instinct C

    Though after the injury to her canines Assassin had to adapt and could no longer fully utilise in practice the part of her instincts related to hunting down the prey to which she was formerly used, due to the way she lived her life her instincts in general remain sharper than most humans' and than those of most Heroic Spirits who were once human.


    I actually never got far enough into RWBY to get to Sienna's introduction (pretty sure the last one I've watched was S3E7 'The Beginning of the End' though I know about a bunch of stuff that happened afterwards), but from what I've read it does seem like she got remarkably little screentime for someone with a role such as hers in the lore.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cursed by Fortuna View Post
    The skills look good, however at the end of the day, don't take my word for it, it's your sheet/character. If you feel like they fit or that you like them then feel free to add them, if you don't then don't. The final decision rests with you.

    AS for the idea, yeah that's partly why I dropped it or put it on hold, it's rather complicated and generally isn't something which I think everyone could either fully enjoy or understand [...] it really gets into a bunch of complicated affairs on how saint graphs work, the throne of heroes, humanity's perception (and may not even be fully canon to how Nasu's world operates), and such which make it fairly hard to understand unless you know all that stuff.
    I did end up implementing those Skills, thanks! And to be fair I'm an outlier in terms of how little I know of the franchise so don't let one person hold you back on that front (though I'm not saying you need to go through with that plan if you feel like the other stuff you mentioned includes some big issues).
    Last edited by Serra; Today at 05:05 AM.

  8. #2868
    Foreigner Sheetematic Universe! DelRey's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2020
    Location
    Stuck in Research Hell
    Gender
    Male
    Posts
    226
    Blog Entries
    2
    Quote Originally Posted by Kabalisto Koga View Post
    If you plan to Research About the Cosmology of the Egyptian Cosmology i suggest you look About These three Terms :Kekau-Semau, Reteh-Qabet and Sereq-Hetit as These three are describing aspects of the Space but can also be used for other Things the threee are though german wiki sites but i dont think that should be a Problem .
    thanks for that Koga, I usually browse the english wiki and other sites and avoid german sources, as they more often than not are just shorter or translated english wiki entries. Weirdly enough, sometimes german wiki has own sites for mythological stuff that english wiki did not bother with. While I concentrate more on the background of who were the first egyptian gods and what the differing creation myths mean, having an understanding of how they view the universe is helpful later

    Quote Originally Posted by Kabalisto Koga View Post
    About the Counterpart of Rhongomyniad have i thought on that Seths spear might be a Counterpart on the offenside side as he were the Deity of the Forreign world and he were that he was aside the Antagonist wer he also the Guardian of Egypt as he defeated the beast Yam which is actually a Being of the Canaanitic Mythospehre also where a interesting fact that the Pharao was the Ambassador of two Gods that ruled through the Pharaoh ,Horus/RA at the centre and Seth at the periphery .So did i thought on a "DArk Counterpart" a chaotic Version as there must be to anything a balancing force like no Light without Shadow . like a Pillar of Darkness . and you forgot the beside three mentioned is the Flow of Nature Energy and Soul are also important concepts .

    Also could you give us some hints on your servants perhaps i or others can help you ?
    Seth wasnt always the god of chaos, he started as a protector of the oasis in the desert and his origin is in Nubt, the gateway to the desert with its riches, so that is why later he became the god of the desert in general. Then over time he got other aspects like eclipses, storms and thunder. Him becoming 'evil' is because of another culture that took Set, associated him with an evil deity and later the egyptians adapted their belief in parts. The longer it went on, the more villain-y he became. In essence he was a strong and esteemed deity and his original part in the osiris myth was to be a rival to the king that had legitimate claims to the kingship. Or other interpretations he represented one half of Egypt and his defeat before the new king took over. So in the Nasuverse I see Set as the 'Failed King' and 'Anti-Hero' than simple villain. The neccessary Chaos to keep the King from becoming lazy, which is the moral of the story from that whole ordeal. Chaos vs. Order

    Else, the importance of magic is not unique to egypt, so not an essential defining part of their mythology and the soul is part of the name. And i think you dont understand what the 'Pillar of Light' is, it is a nail that pins the texture of the world to the planet. Like the staff of Wukong, it pinned the texture of the Ocean in place. Or my variant of Gungnir is a pillar that nailed the Norse texture and Odin breaking it apart led to the prophesized destruction, or was part of it. The pillars are not just concept of light or dark, they have structural functions in the nasuverse.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cursed by Fortuna View Post
    Also as far as I know the most we have gotten on the Egyptians are Nitocris who suggests they may have had connections or knowledge of lovecraftian stuff, Anubis and his information from Requiem, affirmations of the existence of Horus and Ra from Ozymandias and Nitocris, mentions that they were powerful (as Ozymandius thinks the 10 plagues would have destroyed Egypt if not for the power of the Egyptian gods in Fate Prototype) and that's about it (which is still more than we know about the Slavic deities which is that Chernabog exists). I never heard of the Sothis / Sirus plot idea but I could imagine it being like that as it is initially referred to as the god from another star.
    I heard that as well, that this nitocris is more inspired by the HPL version of her, but have yet to see where exactly. Any sources that show that would be appreciated, as I think those infos could help me.
    oh and sry I have no plans yet for the North American and Chinese Pantheons, as they are rather complex or not that interesting to me yet. I touched on Inuit Mythology in last contest tho and KIWI's Tethra made me wanna go his route and make the Fomorians the sea folk like your idea perhaps.
    Last edited by DelRey; Today at 07:01 AM.
    Behold!
    My Stuff!

  9. #2869
    死者 The Dead
    Join Date
    Apr 2021
    Gender
    Male
    Posts
    1
    US Friend Code
    128,275,980
    Ayo! Longtime lurker, first time posting anything at all to Beast's Lair. I've been wanting to post in this thread for awhile but was always mega anxious about it, so, overcoming that right now! After a training arc learning how to work with the formatting stuff on here, which was WAY easier than I thought it'd be at first, so that's rad. I make a bunch of Servants (most of them just for fun) so this isn't my first or anything, it's just definitely one of the ones I'm most proud of. As a quick side note there's some collapsed text scattered throughout this, but gonna draw special attention to the History section, since it'd kinda suck if that got missed (in hindsight I could just make them split, but that's less visually cool so whatever). Hope the formatting is okay! Please lemme know if it looks funky.

    Anyway! Sorry for all that. With my preamble out of the way:


    "Oho~! In response to your call,
    Arsène Lupin has come! Now, let's get a good look at you...hm, well, not the most promising partner I've had...but, never you mind! I'm sure you'll grow into the role, probably. I'll follow your commands when it suits me for now. In return, pay close attention—after all, learning from a master thief is a once in a lifetime opportunity!"

    Arsène Lupin

    Class: Faker
    Gender: Male
    Possible Classes: Faker
    Height / Weight: 184cm / 70kg
    Source / Region: Arsène Lupin series / France
    Alignment: Chaotic Neutral

    Maurice Leblanc's eponymous protagonist, an infamous thief whose name rang out not only among those fictional Parisians of Leblanc's stories, but also the adoring populace of reality who couldn't help but fall in love with his daring exploits.

    Likes:
    Winning, "the thrill""Good food, good drink, good company...what more could a man ask for beyond these? Hah! A trick question, mon compère! Arsène Lupin always asks for more! What I like beyond these things, then? Well, that much should be obvious. The thrill I get from taking what I desire."
    Dislikes:
    Surprises, death"My dislikes? Mm, that goes without saying...I hate when others make a fool out of me, especially when I could’ve avoided it. The sheer dissatisfaction eats away at me, and I’ll go mad unless I do something about it. The fact that it doesn’t happen often makes it even worse when it does! To put it another way, compère...I suppose I’m just a sore loser. Ahaha!"
    Talents: Isn't it obvious?
    Weaknesses: Pride
    Natural Enemy: Herlock SholmesSherlock Holmes
    Attribute: Man

    Parameters
    Strength: E
    Endurance: E
    Agility: C
    Magic: D
    Luck: —
    Noble Phantasm: EX

    As a prideful man at heart, Lupin won't allow anything other than his own genius to take credit for his capers. Thus, he's sealed his own Luck.

    "You wish to know me better? Ha! Well, I'm fully aware of how interesting I am...but I'm afraid those stories are best told through the mouths of others. Come now, don't give me that look! Leave the storytelling to the storytellers."

    Class Skills
    Camouflage: A+
    A Skill of the Faker class, allowing one to mask their status information. Its rank is so high that Lupin can obfuscate anything about himself with ease, and he uses this Skill in tandem with one of his Noble PhantasmsMan of a Thousand Faces to create nearly perfect disguises.

    Independent Action: A
    A Skill of the Faker class, the ability to function without a Master’s support. So long as he carefully conserves his magical energy, Lupin can maintain himself for one week.


    Personal Skills
    Master of All Trades: A
    Lupin is a whimsical man who mastered countless crafts throughout his many travels, all involving larceny, of course...but also political intrigue, war, and even mysticism. As such, he can exhibit abilities honed in life as Skills ranked B or higher, these including thievery, martial arts, medical techniques, magecraft, marksmanship, espionage, and riding. Lupin can additionally quickly pick up new talents and display them in the same manner.

    Eye for Art: A+
    The ability to tell a counterfeit apart from an original is absolutely necessary for Lupin’s line of work—and with his unparalleled familiarity with art from various genres, regions, and time periods, there isn’t a single fake around that can fool Lupin. This expertise can even allow him to recognize the True Names of enemy Noble Phantasms if there’s some kind of artistic quality about them.

    Phantom Thief's Calling Card: A++

    An audacious warning sent to Lupin’s target, “the event that creates an absolute theft.” Once read, the target is affected by a persistent curse that causes small distortions in the World around them that always act to Lupin’s benefit—such as a window left slightly ajar, allowing Lupin to slip inside their home with ease. The calling card always puts him in the perfect position to make due on his bold promise...but of course, some targets might end up turning the tables on Lupin when given such ample time to prepare.


    Noble Phantasm(s)
    Reaching Out With My Open Hand
    Yours Is Mine

    Rank: EX
    Type: Anti-Treasure
    Range: 1 ~ 60
    Max. Targets: 1
    A man who never failed to carry out a theft, not even once. That truth has been sublimated as a Noble Phantasm enacting the concept of an “absolute theft”—with the only prerequisite being that the target must know Lupin’s True Name before it can be used.

    In planning his heists, Lupin made sure to follow a very detailed set of steps. The first, obviously, is to identify the exact target. The second is for him to question if the risk is worth the reward. The third is to plan out how he would do so, including the methods and tools he would need to employ. From that point on there are countless other steps, big and small, in order to ensure a successful theft...but this Noble Phantasm cuts right to the heart of the matter. It is the rewriting of World law according to a mere burglar’s whim so that he might commit the ultimate robbery. So long as he has a plan and the means to make it possible, it is decided that Lupin’s theft is “already a success,” so all he needs to do is open his hand...and in that palm that’s held so many other things thought untouchable, he will find exactly what he sought. He need simply to desire something, and reach out his hand to get it. The target need not even be something physical. If Lupin’s brilliant mind can conceive of a way to do so, then even the conceptual is a viable target. A Noble Phantasm of few limitations and infinite possibilities—a perfect reflection of the man himself. At the same time, too many options often leads to paralyzation. Er, never to Lupin, of course...but the fact remains. Being limited only by his own mind is a blessing and a curse.

    Yet...should the robbery somehow fail, a fatal contradiction occurs. Arsène's thefts never failed, yet this Noble Phantasm's own failure would disprove that. This simple problem becomes a paradox. The World denies the idea that “Arsène Lupin failed” and instead decides that “this Servant is not Arsène Lupin,” causing the rapid degradation of his spirit core.

    That being said, there are two ways to defend against Lupin’s Noble Phantasm. The first is to simply not allow it to happen at all—probably the easier option, all things considered. The alternative is to prepare a defense against Lupin that is so powerful, so complete, that not even this legendary thief could achieve his goal. But that’s easier said than done.

    "Do listen closely—for here and now, Arsène Lupin takes everything from you! In the palm of my hand, what’s Yours is Mine! Ahahahahaha!"

    To Hide In Plainest Sight
    Man of a Thousand Faces

    Rank: B
    Type: Anti-Unit
    Range: Self
    Max. Targets: 1
    In all the stories surrounding him, Lupin’s always sported a different name and face, never sticking to one of either for very long. He’s a master of disguise, and this Noble Phantasm is declarative of that fact. Though Lupin’s disguises in life were the result of subterfuge and cunning, this ability is altogether different, allowing Lupin to completely transform in the blink of an eye (though this doesn’t include inhuman creatures or inanimate objects). But this Noble Phantasm is far more than just a superficial mask—every time he transforms, Lupin can completely obscure his status information, hiding the truth even from his own Master should he wish it. In this way, the true worth of Lupin’s Noble Phantasm reveals itself—Lupin’s ability to truly become someone new each time he takes the stage. This is Arsène Lupin's qualification for the Faker class. He doesn't masquerade as one person in particular, but assumes the face of anyone he pleases in order to accomplish his goals.

    However, there is a single glaring weakness. If one deduces Lupin’s True Name and calls it out with absolute confidence, his transformation is immediately dispelled, and while he can still shapeshift in the presence of those that have seen through his act, Lupin’s status obfuscation does not work on such people. It’s a troublesome drawback, but not one that’s normally an issue...unless of course, Lupin happens to be dealing with an equally troublesome detective.

    "Alright, compère, you’re chinking away at my armor! This must be how others feel when I’m prodding them, at least a little...anyway, hmm...where do I start with myself? The beginning, my first theft? My studies? My first caper, or perhaps my last? My time in the war, or maybe even my encounter with that detective...see what I mean now? My life is quite literally storied, ahahaha! You're better off not worrying about it."

    —At this time, Lupin remains evasive regarding the true nature of his existence as a Heroic Spirit. “What does it matter if I am fact or fiction?” he says. “Either way, I am here!” Right he may be, it’s an odd situation. If Lupin really did exist, then surely there’d have been some kind of outcry...it seems impossible that a man with his feats would end up going under the historical radar. Yet it cannot be denied that Lupin displays a power and magnetism uncharacteristic of wholly fictional Heroic Spirits. Just what…

    Well I guess in the end, speculation is useless. This infuriating man will continue to take the more “entertaining” route and refuse to give a straight answer.

    History
    Arsène Lupin, Gentleman Burglar; a name that first made its way into the public consciousness in 1905, penned by Maurice Leblanc. The thief’s exploits quickly became a sensation the world over, in large part due to the mirror they became to the eminently popular detective novels. It was even to the point that Leblanc wrote an encounter between his eponymous thief and the Great Detective himself (an upset Doyle stepped in on that one though, and so Lupin’s foe was the old Herlock Sholmes rather than...someone else). Lupin’s story though concerns far more than just thievery; from grounded stories of intrigue and deceit to fantastical searches for occult artifacts, from the bleak battles of the first World War to dramatic hunts for treasure...the only consistent thing in all of these tales is the overwhelming presence of Lupin himself. The story starts when Lupin, then a young boy by the name of Raoul, simply wanted to help his mother. She was a maid in the employ of a rich family...a family who happened to have the infamous Queen’s Necklace in their possession. Lupin’s mother was constantly mistreated and underpaid by her employers, but, quite literally, couldn’t afford to quit—so naturally, her son took matters into his own hands. He stole the Queen’s Necklace effortlessly, and even found a fence to get the funds to his mother in a way that wouldn’t get the authorities involved. It was through this that Arsène Lupin’s legend began—when that boy realized he’d done with ease what should have been “impossible,” he died, and in his place would stand a legend.Lupin’s life from that point forward is adventure after adventure. His rivalry with Herlock Sholmes, an encounter with the Blonde Lady, the mystery of the Hollow Needle, the struggle for the Crystal Stopper...these are but a few of the many tales to bear Lupin’s name. His fame though extends far beyond these—Lupin became the very face of the “gentleman burglar,” inspiring countless other thieves, real and imagined alike, to walk in the footsteps of a wily showstopping larcenist.Of course, though Leblanc’s writings were framed as real accounts related to him by the thief, there is none who would argue the fact that Arsène Lupin is fiction. However—The year was 1893. Arsène Lupin, barely a young man, had been spending his formative years hopping from one profession to another, learning every kind of craft he could in every place that would take him. But it was while studying under a man named Dickson that Lupin’s course would change somewhat. Dickson, you see, was a stage magician, an expert in close-up illusions and sleight of hand—skills Lupin saw an obvious benefit in learning. He was persistent and doggedly persuaded Dickson until he relented and agreed to mentor him...and then, completely by accident, Lupin uncovered the fact that Dickson was an actual mage. Yet rather than secure the secrecy of magecraft, Dickson chose to pass on what he knew. Lupin never did learn why—partly because Dickson wasn’t forthcoming about it, and partly because, well, Lupin didn’t really question it himself. After all, they say you shouldn’t look a gift horse in the mouth...and this was a very big gift. Still, he was disappointed to learn that he didn’t have much talent for it all, and Dickson himself wasn’t very accomplished either...but he opened Lupin’s eyes to a whole new world of mysticism. A world in which he would learn about the Throne of Heroes.

    One day, Dickson offhandedly mentioned his dismay at the state of humanity, worrying it would soon be incapable of producing any more figures like the Heroic Spirits of old. Naturally, Lupin wanted to know more about such grandiose sounding terms, and proceeded to prod his teacher for more information. And so Arsène Lupin was fascinated. The idea that some people in this world were so lauded that their souls were permanently engraved into the collective consciousness was the most magical thing he’d ever heard, even considering everything else he’d been taught. On that day, Lupin decided that he would become a legend. How hard could it be?

    It was some time later that Lupin met Maurice Leblanc, an aspiring novelist. The two became fast friends...and more than that, partners in crime. For Lupin saw that through Leblanc, his idea could become a reality—with his life put to pen, it would become a story that echoes through time, and in return, Leblanc would receive ample writing material. And by recording greater, grander tales, both Lupin’s legend and Leblanc’s fame would continue to rise; the idea of “Arsène Lupin, Gentleman Burglar” would become something much more than a series of stories. It would be the means to immortalize Lupin...and of course, it was for no other reason than to see if it could be done. To Lupin, it was the perfect plan. And evidently, he succeeded.

    ...There’s just one unforeseen hiccup. The stories of Arsène Lupin, though based on a real man’s life, are remembered as fictional stories—there’s not a single person who’d tell you that he actually existed. This shouldn’t be a major problem. After all, Sherlock Holmes and Henry Jekyll are similar. But Lupin’s exact circumstances have somewhat fragmented the man’s memories—in other words, he cannot remember which of his stories are more based in fact, and which of his stories may be wholly fiction. Perhaps it doesn’t matter, but to him, it’s very important—not because he cares, no! But because Lupin’s infuriated that he never expected such a complication! While he succeeded in the end, the Throne got the last laugh...at least, that’s how he sees it. As an aside, his brain’s inability to parse fact from fiction is why he’ll always see and hear that detective's name as “Herlock Sholmes,” no matter what. It’s like a conceptual curse...

    A related issue is that because Lupin doesn’t easily fall into any of the seven standard Servant classes, his already odd existence is made further unstable. He was not a martial combatant, and so cannot qualify for the Knight classes. He had no mount, is not quite a mage, has never been insane, and completely rejects placement under the Assassin class due to its connotations. Lupin only manages to qualify for the strange Faker class...and so, here he is. Something else entirely that could never be summoned under normal circumstances. Lupin doesn’t really seem to care though.

    Despite all this being so clearly written out here, Lupin would never easily share it all himself. Why? Simple! It’s so much more fun to leave people wondering!

    Despite claiming to have no attachments, Lupin did have a lover...and children. But the former was killed, and he had to separate himself from the latter when he realized how much more difficult he made their lives. And those are but a few of the countless loves lost. But Lupin prefers not to speak of them. Perhaps the way he keeps his Master at arm’s length yet constantly keeps an eye on them at the same time is a result of such complicated experiences.

    Personality
    Arsène Lupin is, in a word, charismatic. In a few other words he’s opportunistic, mischievous, and prideful. The man is an irredeemable swindler who hops from one story to the next without an ounce of regret, always thinking about what and who he can use to further his goals. He’s totally selfish and doesn’t do anything at all unless he stands to gain from it, and whenever it just might seem like he’s growing a conscience, it’s a calculated ruse meant to evoke goodwill and pity from others. Arsène Lupin is a terrible person who never has and never will truly care about the people around him.

    ...Well, all that’s what he’d want you to believe, but it isn’t exactly far from the truth either. Lupin really is just awful. A scoundrel who lies without hesitation, a cheat who steals with impunity...what else could you call a person like that? Yet to Lupin, being perceived in this way is an absolute benefit. If people believe he’s nothing more than a heartless villain with no connections of any kind, then in their minds he becomes capable of anything—he is the perpetrator of any crime, the mastermind behind any scheme...but of course, there’s also the fact that if Arsène Lupin has no one, then only he is put at risk. It is in this way that Lupin’s dishonesty extends even to those he wishes to protect. By propagating this uncaring image of his, he ensures that no one will rely on him, no one will put themselves in danger for his sake, and no one will be targeted just because they are connected to him. That’s the real crux of the matter. Lupin is not only a man fully capable of caring about others, but in life, he did so arguably too often for his line of work...and as a Servant looking back on it all, he considers that to be the most troublesome emotion of them all. This is why Lupin will continue to act as if he is an unfeeling rogue—because in his mind, that is simply easier than the alternative. So he plays the part of the puppeteer, always staying one step ahead even of his own emotions. Make no mistake—while the extent of Lupin’s trickery isn’t always genuine, the trickery itself is done liberally.

    Fact is, this is the life Lupin chose for himself, so don’t pity him too much. He steals because stealing is what he wants to do, thinking to himself that it’s only right for him to keep doing it if he’s so good at it. Arsène Lupin is a fundamentally selfish person, though it isn’t like he’s incapable of being selfless—the very reason he first stole in the first place was to support his mother. Lupin will almost always do what’s best for himself first and foremost, but when it involves friends and family, he’ll do whatever he has to for their sake, all the while not letting them know he was involved. He isn’t the type of altruistic person who helps others, but the kind who only helps the people he loves—in that respect, perhaps Lupin is eminently human. For though he is a selfish thief with no regard for the laws and expectations of society, he knows the importance of the human connection all too well. This is why he loves so fiercely even, and especially, when he shouldn’t...and why death repulses him so intensely.

    Or perhaps his hatred of death stems instead from all the people he’s lost along the way.

    In any case, that is who Lupin is. A man who, in many ways, lives to extremes, who loves life and all the thrills it can offer to him, and who seeks to make a memory out of every moment of it. Because really, the fun is the most important part of living.

    "The Holy Grail? Ahh, I’d love to get my hands on one!...Eh? No, no, I have no particular use for it. It’d just be so very satisfying to snatch it away."

    Motives and Attitude
    Lupin has no wish for the Grail itself, but seeks it all the same so that he might add another trophy to his vast cabinet—the right to say that he, Arsène Lupin, stole the Holy Grail from six ancient heroes of great renown. Of course, this is while summoned for a Holy Grail War. If involved in the Grand Order incidents, he would not actively seek the Grail precisely because there are so many of them lying around. There’s just no challenge in trying to steal something that the Master already finds in bulk, so he drops the idea and as a result, becomes just a touch more altruistic.

    Towards a Master he likes, Lupin is friendly and charming, the very picture of an enigmatic gentleman. They are his co-conspirator, someone he respects as an equal and shares everything with. Yet a conversation would never go on too long. Despite seeming warm and cordial, Lupin holds himself back, never allowing the Master to share too much about themselves and never sharing too much about himself in turn. He purposefully creates situations wherein, if necessary, he can simply walk away with nothing of value lost. To an observer, it seems as if Lupin makes an effort to avoid attachment...or perhaps, this “impersonal personability” is merely his way. Either way, it takes a lot to break past Lupin’s strange veneer...but if one is particularly determined, just maybe, they’d pick up on all the ways he keeps an eye on someone he’s pledged to protect.

    If he doesn’t like you though...well, that’s when the gentleman burglar becomes a dangerous foe. He isn’t quite a knife in the dark, but that doesn’t mean he won’t make trouble in other ways, as he’ll do his best to remove himself from an unfavorable relationship ASAP. What Lupin wants out of his contractor is an accomplice, after all—that’s precisely why he calls them “compère” rather than “Master.” So anyone who tries to lord their role over Lupin is immediately on his bad side, as are those who try to upstage, belittle, or take advantage of him. Those people are the kinds of contractors Lupin would relish in ruining before he cuts ties. On the flipside, he wouldn’t abandon a weak or incompetent Master if they were genuinely trying their best, but otherwise, he treats their contract much like a professional relationship gone sour and extricates himself accordingly.

    Lupin’s opinion of Chaldea’s Master specifically is that they are a wonderfully naive person who does good for the sake of good...the exact opposite of himself, who does good only for personal benefit. He admires the good nature of a Master who, with no outstanding capabilities beyond sheer iron will, fights for the sake of a world that will never thank them for their efforts, whose people will never give them their rightful reward. Because of this, Lupin gladly fights by their side—after all, while he won’t easily admit it, that rare brand of genuine person is his favorite kind of accomplice. Perhaps he maintains his distance because he’s afraid his two-faced nature will rub off on them.


    Relationships
    Herlock Sholmes
    The only man who was ever able to match Arsène Lupin. All of Lupin’s encounters with Sholmes were near the end of the great detective’s life though, so he’s admittedly ecstatic to see Sholmes in his prime. As men of equal intelligence and similar principles, the two believe they could’ve been comrades were they not on opposite sides of the law. However, try as he might to set it aside, Lupin does harbor some resentment over a tragedy wrought by Sholmes’ hand. As such, their relationship with one another is a bit more complicated than it seems at first glance.

    ...Eh? The wrong name? No, no, there’s nothing wrong here.

    "Monsieur Sholmes! Well, well, you’re looking a little younger than when we last met! Hahahah, but, I suppose that makes sense...eh? What do you mean, “I’m saying it wrong?” Ahahaha. Enough jesting, Herlock. I’m trying to be courteous!"


    James Moriarty
    As the rival of his rival, Lupin’s overall opinion of Moriarty is positive—but while he admires the professor’s mind, the same can’t be said for his methods. More than that, Moriarty’s palpable evil is a grim reminder that Lupin easily could’ve turned into a much more destructive kind of man. So while they are “friendly,” Arsène Lupin does not dare let himself befriend James Moriarty.

    "Ahh, Moriarty...a twisted gentleman, but a brilliant one! If I am to share the role of Sholmes’ rival with any man, I’m proud it is him! Still, there’s a difference between us. That brilliance of his...it is matched only by his propensity for destruction."


    Marie Antoinette

    Though he has no personal tie to Marie, he feels a strong sense of gratitude towards her. If she hadn’t gotten wrapped up in the Affair of the Diamond Necklace, it never would’ve found its way into his hands.

    "Mademoiselle Antoinette...though it brought you nothing but misfortune, that necklace made sure a good woman lived a good life. Merci beaucoup."


    Edmond Dantes
    The protagonist of The Count of Monte Cristo, a story Lupin liked so much that he once used the titular island’s name as an alias. He read the man’s tale over and over, greatly admiring his determination, intelligence, and wit. Lupin is amazed that a man he’d thought fictional was actually a real person...and all at once, is also aware of how silly that comes off, considering his own situation.

    "Oho...the Count himself?! It’s not often that I’m starstruck, but to think he would become a Heroic Spirit as well! I suppose we’re not too different, he and I, no? I wonder if he’d mind me picking his brain sometime..."


    Robin Hood
    Lupin admires Robin Hood’s creed, even if he could never live by it himself. Though he makes a show out of trying to talk Robin into more selfish exploits, he’d be disappointed if Robin ever accepted.

    “"Steal from the rich and give to the poor.” Most auspicious...yet, I quite like it! There’s much to be said about a man who gives for giving’s sake. But I think we could so much more together...no?"


    Pirates, Outlaws
    Towards others who are “like” himself (those who steal from others for their own gain), Lupin almost automatically shows a measure of understanding and respect. Yet he also believes that as a “professional,” he’s naturally above them when it comes to his reputation as a thief.

    "Ahh, pirates! The rats of the sea!...Or is that about seagulls? In any case, I do feel a certain kinship with them. Like, ah...twice-removed cousins!"


    Artists, Writers
    Lupin is an ardent admirer of their works!...So long as they’re the sort that look good in a collection. That isn’t to say he doesn’t truly value art, but the exact opposite—as a connoisseur, he’d naturally desire the best of it all for himself.

    "Impressive, impressive! The Great Wave is the centerpiece of a great many collector’s hoard, so I expected nothing short of greatness when I learned you were hanging around...yet your masterful strokes, well...they are truly enthralling. Now is that enough blatant flattery to get a copy for myself?"

    "Heroic Spirits who were authors, eh? That makes sense...after all, there’s power in stories. Now if only they’d let me “borrow” their manuscripts..."


    Gilgamesh
    "That gaudy King of Heroes certainly dislikes me, doesn't he? Though, with how tantalizing that treasury is...hahaha, he's right to be cautious!"


    Carmilla (Summer)
    "Excuse me, mademoiselle...I fear you're infringing upon my gimmick. E-Eh? What do you mean, "released first?""

    Lupin’s anomalous existence and inability to be assigned to any of the seven standard classes mean it’s unlikely he’d ever be summoned for a normal Holy Grail War...or even an aberrant one, for that matter. After all, a Heroic Spirit outside the bounds of most summoning systems? Well, such a thing should be impossible. Yet here it is. Lupin clams his abnormal class container doesn’t impact him in the least, but it’s clear that his Spirit Origin is somewhat weak and unstable. If summoned for a Grail War though, Lupin claims that he could use his Noble Phantasm to steal the class container assigned to another Servant and tremendously strengthen himself as a result. And he seems so sure of it too...

    "Fine, fine, fine! I see how it is. So just this once, I’ll be honest—I envy you more than I’ve envied anyone else. Ahh, liberating! Hm? Oh, it’s simple. You’re beyond genuine, and it’s as infuriating as it is charming. I like to think that in another life, I could’ve been such a person...but on second thought, I really am perfect as is, aren’t I? Hahaha...anyway, that’s all to say...so long as you keep being so genuine, I’ll stick around. How does that sound, mon compère?"

    Comments
    Lupin might just be one of the strangest, most storied fictional characters I’ve ever read about, right next to Herlock himself. So needless to say, I’ve struggled so much exactly because of that! I’ve known exactly how I wanted to characterize and interpret him, but getting it all down was a huge trouble, because I don’t want to muck up a character I think is so genuinely interesting! In the end though, I finally got him to a place I’m really proud of. I also had such a fun time making his kit and figuring out what he can do (I didn't really need to make any Skills for him either, which in this case is a plus—making Skills is mega fun, but it's always convenient when what's already there perfectly fits with what you're going for). Not gonna lie, I'm especially patting myself on the back for the fatal flaw of Yours is Mine. I did have to basically make up what the calling card does, since it's just a funny Summer Carmilla skill in-game, and I'm pretty happy with what I thought of there, too.

    In particular though, the huge liberty I took with such a small part of Lupin’s story is probably my favorite thing. Dickson is genuinely not even a character in the novels, just a throwaway line in this litany of possible backgrounds for Lupin that a judge reads off. I wanted to add some spice to the “is he or isn’t he real?” schtick that basically all the characters from novels have, and when I figured out how I wanted to do it, I couldn’t wait to share it with people! So with all that being said, I hope this was as much fun for you to read as it was for me to write. Definitely feel free to tear me apart if it wasn't though.

Tags for this Thread

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •