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    Castoria basically stole Tamamo's niche, so I don't think she'll get anything else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ubergeneral View Post
    What do you think Tamamos next buff will be? I servants should be able to use their NP with less than 100% power. If they don't have 100% when executing it, their NP fails. This would let Tamamo use her NP to fill an allies gage and then her ally could use their NP on the same turn.
    If she gets something else, it'll be an improvement to Transformation. I'd expect something as meh as an Okki-level buff.
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    It's not like there's no precedent to a skill being buffed twice, so fingers crossed on that.

    I just want a reason to field my NP3 Tamamo again. She's been catching dust ever since I rolled Castoria.

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    Sure, but Transform is just such an old skill that I'd rather see it get upgraded than, say, Witchcraft.
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    Add an NP charge to her Arts buff.

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    My thought has been make Transform into a teem buff. What I really would like is for Tama to be the first with team defense that can't be pieced or remove. Maybe add a self NP battery of 30%-80% (if not this an NP gain), and/or a self Invincibility. Tama is more for long battles and I think an upgrade like this would help. Another idea it to make Fox Wedding boost not just Arts by 50% but Busters and Quicks too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tamamo-no-Mae Goshujin-sama View Post
    My thought has been make Transform into a teem buff. What I really would like is for Tama to be the first with team defense that can't be pieced or remove. Maybe add a self NP battery of 30%-80% (if not this an NP gain), and/or a self Invincibility. Tama is more for long battles and I think an upgrade like this would help. Another idea it to make Fox Wedding boost not just Arts by 50% but Busters and Quicks too.
    You can't possibly be serious.

    Make Morph a team buff
    Reasonable, but inconsistent with the skill's theme. Also steps on Mash's toes a bit. Meh tier buff overall.

    team defense that can't be pieced or removed
    As long as it's just a defense buff and not invincibility/evasion, don't really see the point. Not a lot of Servants pierce defense to begin with.

    Maybe add a self NP battery of 30%-80% (if not this an NP gain), and/or a self Invincibility.
    Lol, no. A 30% battery would be a very strong buff. A 50% battery would be overpowered. 80% is "lol, wtf, no" tier. Boosting her NP gain would be a decently strong buff too, even if checked by a 1t duration and being tied to a defensive skill. Self-invincibility on a skill on an already powerful stall support (whi can even lower its cooldown via her NP!) is just no.

    idea it to make Fox Wedding boost not just Arts by 50% but Busters and Quicks too.
    Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha sure, and after that let's buff Waver. I'm thinking 5k hp heal on the defensive skill, ignore invincible on the offensive one, and 100% battery on the crit.
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    I'm guessing she's gonna get a buff during Extra Record release. And an NP battery would be the most obvious choice since with Prillya's Strengthening, she's the only SSR Caster without battery in her skills.



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    Quote Originally Posted by OnesFleetingGlory View Post
    I'm guessing she's gonna get a buff during Extra Record release. And an NP battery would be the most obvious choice since with Prillya's Strengthening, she's the only SSR Caster without battery in her skills.
    What was that? Couldn't hear you over the sound of Caster Nero NP interlude.
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    Illya just got 50% Battery from a strengthening, what's stopping Tamamo from getting one

    Also, Edison's Transformation became targetable after upgrade, so it's not like there's no precedent
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zork Knight View Post
    Illya just got 50% Battery from a strengthening, what's stopping Tamamo from getting one

    Also, Edison's Transformation became targetable after upgrade, so it's not like there's no precedent
    Illya was an outdated beatstick, Tamamo is still a strong if specialised support.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OnesFleetingGlory View Post
    I'm guessing she's gonna get a buff during Extra Record release. And an NP battery would be the most obvious choice since with Prillya's Strengthening, she's the only SSR Caster without battery in her skills.

    Did Shezzy ever get a NP battery?
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    Reasonable, but inconsistent with the skill's theme. Also steps on Mash's toes a bit. Meh tier buff overall.
    Waver already does as for theme it could be upgraded and become her Aphotic Cave since in Fox Tail she used it to protect her master, BB and herself.

    Quote Originally Posted by Deathhappens View Post
    As long as it's just a defense buff and not invincibility/evasion, don't really see the point. Not a lot of Servants pierce defense to begin with.
    Agree that it doesn't seem match invincibility/evasion but many hard Boss seem to get past them. The non remove was my main idea. If made real a double Tama could keep the party alive against some like Amakusas NP. I see Tama as a stall team Ace and I think 3 turn defense fit better.

    Quote Originally Posted by Deathhappens View Post
    Lol, no. A 30% battery would be a very strong buff. A 50% battery would be overpowered. 80% is "lol, wtf, no" tier. Boosting her NP gain would be a decently strong buff too, even if checked by a 1t duration and being tied to a defensive skill. Self-invincibility on a skill on an already powerful stall support (whi can even lower its cooldown via her NP!) is just no.
    Yea 80% I was way over zelos on that one. I just was thinking since other team enhancements gave NP charge and as you said defense up is not the best I thought if she had a self target one it should be pretty high. 30% just seem low when most of the top tier support 5 stars can give everyone 20%.

    Hope this help explain my thought process. I'm not the best with words so this was written in fun as enjoy friendly debates if any response I wrote came off mean I'm sorry.

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    Enough with the batteries, please. This game has turned into np spam simulator with a servant's worth judged by how well they can spam. I've seen some people defend this by saying they would rather get np from batteries or refund than with face cards but that's a massive problem in of itself like they don't even want to play the game.

    Anyways the problem isn't that Tamamo is too weak, it's that Castoria is too strong.

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    This is a 6 y.o gacha game. Of course people are gonna wanna a way to win in the lowest number of turns possible.

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    That's the point, the gameplay of the game is seen as this thing which is to be done in as little time as possible. Why are you even playing the game at this point?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Synaptic Star View Post
    That's the point, the gameplay of the game is seen as this thing which is to be done in as little time as possible. Why are you even playing the game at this point?
    Totally get where you're coming from. I feel the same way in this regard.

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    Gee, why would people want to be done with combat as soon as possible in a game with such awful drop rates. What a total mystery.

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    And gacha games are meant to be played in shorts sports every few hours when your AP recovers, not multiple hours in a row in a single sitting.

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