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    Fraggle do you mind extending the playing house with Nanoha snippet where Shirou faces the endless teasing by various people?

    I can see Suzuka, Alisa, and the other women Momoko chats with at the market.

    Oh, and Kiritsugu reacting to the snippet too.

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    Heroslayer has stated on several occasions that Shirou has no reason to start practicing Archery






    Looking at this picture it is easy to deduce the two big reasons why Shirou started practicing kyudo, if you get my point


    1. An after-school activity is mandatory.

    2. Fate thought it might be fun to try it out.



    Hayate would cry foul play at missing such a great opportunity to ' ....hit Shirou's bullseye!'





    Erio starts practicing after Fate makes it ' Family tradition'


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    Quote Originally Posted by Carpe_Noctem View Post
    *ahem* btw what does the kanji mean?
    No idea, I don't read moonrunes


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    But then again, with after-school activities being mandatory, I think he would choose whatever would allow him to be closest to Nanoha and Fate, or just whatever would require the least time, so that he would be free to help them save people.

    Not that it matters, since he doesn't need to practice archery in order to be able to hit a bullseye, and while he did originally use archery (or rather, its philosophy) as a basis for his unique approach to gradation air, the Jewel Seed took care of it here and thus he doesn't need it. So the plot relevance of archery is non-existent there.

    But I would welcome a snippet exploring this idea if you decided to create it.


    And come to think of it, in this story Shirou really will get powerful. And I don't mean a "uh oh, he has an artefact that gives him unlimited power" thing or a "uh oh, someone magically helped him get better" thing, but rather the fact that his low magical abilities stemmed from him not using his magic circuits at all for his whole life. And even then his capacity was quarter of Rin's capacity or something like that, so with him using his magic circuits and thus not letting them atrophy, he is going to be quite a capable magus, even if overly specialised. Of course, there's also the issue with his low prana regeneration, but I'm pretty certain that one, too, stems from either not using his magic circuits properly or from him having damaged himself during one of his "let's create a magic circuit" sessions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by YamiheKazeto View Post
    But then again, with after-school activities being mandatory, I think he would choose whatever would allow him to be closest to Nanoha and Fate, or just whatever would require the least time, so that he would be free to help them save people.

    Not that it matters, since he doesn't need to practice archery in order to be able to hit a bullseye, and while he did originally use archery (or rather, its philosophy) as a basis for his unique approach to gradation air, the Jewel Seed took care of it here and thus he doesn't need it. So the plot relevance of archery is non-existent there.

    But I would welcome a snippet exploring this idea if you decided to create it.


    And come to think of it, in this story Shirou really will get powerful. And I don't mean a "uh oh, he has an artefact that gives him unlimited power" thing or a "uh oh, someone magically helped him get better" thing, but rather the fact that his low magical abilities stemmed from him not using his magic circuits at all for his whole life. And even then his capacity was quarter of Rin's capacity or something like that, so with him using his magic circuits and thus not letting them atrophy, he is going to be quite a capable magus, even if overly specialised. Of course, there's also the issue with his low prana regeneration, but I'm pretty certain that one, too, stems from either not using his magic circuits properly or from him having damaged himself during one of his "let's create a magic circuit" sessions.
    I agree Shirou will be much stronger as his magic circuit will not atrophy so he should be a lot stronger prana wise of course he is going to need it to keep up with his friends.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YamiheKazeto View Post
    But then again, with after-school activities being mandatory, I think he would choose whatever would allow him to be closest to Nanoha and Fate, or just whatever would require the least time, so that he would be free to help them save people.

    Not that it matters, since he doesn't need to practice archery in order to be able to hit a bullseye, and while he did originally use archery (or rather, its philosophy) as a basis for his unique approach to gradation air, the Jewel Seed took care of it here and thus he doesn't need it. So the plot relevance of archery is non-existent there.

    But I would welcome a snippet exploring this idea if you decided to create it.


    And come to think of it, in this story Shirou really will get powerful. And I don't mean a "uh oh, he has an artefact that gives him unlimited power" thing or a "uh oh, someone magically helped him get better" thing, but rather the fact that his low magical abilities stemmed from him not using his magic circuits at all for his whole life. And even then his capacity was quarter of Rin's capacity or something like that, so with him using his magic circuits and thus not letting them atrophy, he is going to be quite a capable magus, even if overly specialised. Of course, there's also the issue with his low prana regeneration, but I'm pretty certain that one, too, stems from either not using his magic circuits properly or from him having damaged himself during one of his "let's create a magic circuit" sessions.
    Quote Originally Posted by rajvir View Post
    I agree Shirou will be much stronger as his magic circuit will not atrophy so he should be a lot stronger prana wise of course he is going to need it to keep up with his friends.
    While Shirou's training does damage his abilities in canon, do not forget that the quality of his circuits is below average compared to top breed like Rin and Sakura. Add that he's specialized in a rather dangerous ability, and thus lacks things like Flight, defenses and standard non-lethal magic and you end up with a boy who will have quite a few moments to doubt his abilities and his power.

    Nanoha, Fate and hayate's accomplishments and talents are going to push him beyond his limits because he doesn't want to fall behind....


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    So he learn Archery as a way to counter flight?


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    Yamihe, rajvir, isn't the whole thing about unused circuits losing their quality over time just fanwank?
    I dunno about damaging them with Shirou's crazy methods though.



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    Shirou's not using Archery in this IIRC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by crystalwatcher View Post
    Shirou's not using Archery in this IIRC.

    B...but that kyudo-Feito image! It just has to be cannon!


    You cannot take that away from me T_T!


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    Quote Originally Posted by YeOfLittleFaith View Post
    Yamihe, rajvir, isn't the whole thing about unused circuits losing their quality over time just fanwank?
    I dunno about damaging them with Shirou's crazy methods though.
    Nope it is mentioned in the visual novel he has 27 circuits and if he had trained when he was younger he would have had above average prana instead of extremely below prana. Rin has some of the highest amount of circuits in the world to simplify it further cannon Shirou prana would be a 5 trained shirou would be at 30 or so and Rin would be a 100.

    Quote Originally Posted by fraggle View Post
    B...but that kyudo-Feito image! It just has to be cannon!


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    Uh.

    I thought circuits were always the same quality?...
    Guess I was wrong.

    EDIT: By the way, I support Kyudo Fate, fraggle!



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    Quote Originally Posted by fraggle View Post
    B...but that kyudo-Feito image! It just has to be cannon!


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    It can be canon in thine snippets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YeOfLittleFaith View Post
    I thought circuits were always the same quality?...
    Guess I was wrong.
    Nope, they aren't. Shirou's could channel about 10 units of prana each while taking damage because of how taxing it was, due to the weakening (they're like another organ, so with them not being used at all, they do atrophy; I think Kariya had a similar problem with his own circuits during the 4th Heaven's Feel, only it was slightly "easier" for him because of him knowing Zouken), so his absolutely highest output was 270 units, and the highest really safe output was something half of that; meanwhile, Rin's circuits could easily channel 10 units of prana without being damaged, so her power normal output was 1.000 units, and she would be able to increase that if she forwent her safety (and, to be honest, with her not using the "spare" circuits from the magic crest, she only has 40 of her own and she is considered a prodigy, while Shirou has 27 and most magi have about 20).
    Granted, it's not likely for Shirou to reach prana output similar to Rin's, but even the only improvement is that his circuits are of average quality (i.e. 10 units of prana per circuit) means that he will be more powerful.

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    It can be canon in thine snippets.

    ...Or in mine.
    Just write them, then. I'm sure the lurkers will be happy. Also, Heroslayer is going to kill us...
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    Hey if you're going to have Fate practicing archery doesn't that mean that it will make the rivalry with Signum ante up to higher proportions?

    You are Gilgamesh! You are a very pompous and arrogant individual. You will do anything in order to achieve your goals and you hold others in very little regard and give them little respect. You have an undying hatred for the weak and can be quite selfish at times. However, you are a great force to be reckoned with. Your fighting skills are quite good and you have undying conviction and a drive to succeed and win during battles. Gilgamesh in the anime has a deep love and fascination of Saber and will do anything in order to have her. In his past life he was the hero Gilgamesh. Gilgamesh wields a special power of multiple noble phantasms called The Gate of Babylon.

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    Remember a little something fraggle teased us with a while back called Dual Wielding?



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    Quote Originally Posted by staplesdex2 View Post
    Hey if you're going to have Fate practicing archery doesn't that mean that it will make the rivalry with Signum ante up to higher proportions?

    Yep, and all of this will ramp up Hayate's delusions up to eleven!

    Yagami hayate presents: " Sexy archery time!"

    starring:

    Emiya 'Thats my man!' Shirou.

    Fate 'Thieving cat!' Testarossa Harlaown.

    and Yagami " My knight cannot be this NRT'ing!' Signum .


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