[1:41 PM] savepoints/Dave: I have a question
[1:41 PM] savepoints/Dave: when did it become cool to just hate on everything TM?
[1:41 PM] savepoints/Dave: and I don't mean FGO
[1:41 PM] savepoints/Dave: we already know why all the spergs hate on FGO
[1:42 PM] savepoints/Dave: I mean the people who talk about all recent spinoffs as "just market ploys to add more stuff into FGO"
[1:42 PM] xxx: as in tm fans hating tm
[1:42 PM] xxx: right
[1:42 PM] xxx: it just started with fgo
[1:42 PM] savepoints/Dave: or the people who now go back to FSN to talk about how "it's really pretty shittily written" (even though it got famous because of nasu's writing style etc)
[1:42 PM] savepoints/Dave: and these people even do the same for like knk
[1:43 PM] savepoints/Dave: as if tsuki and mahoyo (which 90% of them can't read) are the only good things in TM
[1:43 PM] xxx: its pretty weird with tm cuz so few people have actually read the stuff
[1:43 PM] xxx: especially now with fgos popularity
[1:43 PM] savepoints/Dave: and yeah, I mean people in the fandom specifically, not outsiders
[1:43 PM] savepoints/Dave: and when I say "in the fandom" I mean like, deep in the fandom
[1:43 PM] savepoints/Dave: and yeah I'm pretty sure fgo didn't start this, at least not that directly
[1:44 PM] xxx: i REALLY dont get the mahoyo wanking
[1:44 PM] savepoints/Dave: like I see this now and then on BL, but usually then it's more that "old-TM", that is knk + tsuki + fsn are the only good things (and mahoyo but) and everything past that is shit
[1:44 PM] savepoints/Dave: that's a stance I can understand where it comes from, even if I don't agree with it at all
[1:44 PM] savepoints/Dave: because nu-TM is pretty different
[1:45 PM] savepoints/Dave: but where does this notion of going back to shit on the old works even come from
[1:45 PM] savepoints/Dave: it's even worse now because it's pretty easy to ignore on BL but I see it a lot whenever anything non-mahoyo comes up in the mahoyo tl disc
[1:46 PM] savepoints/Dave: like they all hate fgo, that's fine, but then most of them also shit on anything that's not mahoyo or tsuki
[1:46 PM] savepoints/Dave: as if tsuki is the magnum opus of TM
[1:47 PM] savepoints/Dave: yeah tbh mahoyo is a bit overwanked, but I think that also has to do with these same spergs being the ones to shit on everything TM does nowadays, so when mahoyo is actually good for real it gets exaggerated
[1:47 PM] savepoints/Dave: like everything else on the internet
[1:47 PM] savepoints/Dave: ofc it's subjective, and you can dislike everything else TM made
[1:48 PM] savepoints/Dave: but when all of them share the same opinion, it becomes less a matter of "it's just subjective" and more like some weird bandwagon thing
[1:49 PM] savepoints/Dave: just feels like there's a big influx of these opinions, and they are all the same
[1:49 PM] xxx: Because you know, TM is trying to sell their stuff :monjowa:
[1:50 PM] xxx: As if the mentality was that much different from back then
[1:50 PM] xxx: The only difference is they don't need hentai anymore
[1:50 PM] savepoints/Dave: it's not like [our resident TM hater] where he hates everything TM does for a pretty clear reason
[1:52 PM] savepoints/Dave: and then there's the fact that this mindset extends to not only the works TM put out, but to everything they do
[1:52 PM] savepoints/Dave: as if TM has become the new EA or ubisoft or w/e
[1:53 PM] savepoints/Dave: cuz people need to exaggerate everything to this extent